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Friday, June 16, 2023 · sitting No. 215
House debates time allocation on immigration bill as opposition protests
The House spent the largest share of the day on government orders for Bill S-8, an act to amend the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. Minister Kamal Khera moved a time allocation motion to limit debate to five hours at report stage and five hours at third reading. Conservative MP Luc Berthold said the government had mismanaged the agenda and relied on time allocation despite its NDP coalition. Bloc Québécois MP Gabriel Ste-Marie questioned the House leader's competence in overriding traditions.
Question period featured clashes over housing. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said house building would drop 19 per cent while the population reaches 40 million and asked where newcomers would live. Liberal MP Soraya Martinez Ferrada defended the national housing strategy and the housing accelerator fund. Poilievre pressed the government to balance the budget and tie municipal funding to completed homes.
Public safety questions centred on the transfer of Paul Bernardo. Bloc Québécois MP Christine Normandin said the minister had known of the move for three months. Public Safety Minister Mark Holland said the transfer decision was independent and should not be politicized. Conservative MP Stephanie Kusie called for the minister's resignation.
Decided that day
- Time allocation for Bill S-8 passed
- Bill C-51 introduced and given second reading
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Financial Institutions
Conservative MP Michael Chong said the resignation of a Canadian executive confirmed the bank serves Chinese Communist Party interests and asked when Canada would withdraw. Liberal MP Rachel Bendayan said the government had halted activity at the bank and ordered a review.
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Bloc Québécois MP Luc Desilets said the backlog stood at 8,365 claims and urged permanent hires to clear it. Veterans Affairs Minister Lawrence MacAulay said the backlog had fallen below 6,000 after new staff were added.
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Liberal MP Patrick Weiler asked what the government was doing to protect boreal caribou amid Quebec forest fires. Liberal MP Rachel Bendayan said the minister had set a timetable for protection plans the previous day.
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NDP MP Gord Johns said consecutive governments had starved rural post offices of resources and asked the minister to halt privatization. Liberal Minister Helena Jaczek said Canada Post operates at arm's length and continues to adapt to customer needs.
Read the exchangeDiversity and Inclusion
Liberal MP Jean Yip asked the trade minister for an update on support for 2SLGBTQI+ entrepreneurs. Minister Mary Ng announced $25 million in new funding to help those businesses grow.
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- deflectedHousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Ms. Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the population-housing mismatch by attacking internal opposition disagreement instead of addressing placement or construction.
I would like to remind him that members of his own party say one thing but think another.
- partly answeredHousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the need to build homes and links immigration to construction skills but does not directly tackle the 19% drop or immediate placement issue.
We need to adopt policies to allow us to build more homes to ensure that people do not just arrive here but that they are also set up for success.
- deflectedHousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Ms. Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the budget-balancing and results-based funding query by claiming the opposition copied Liberal policy and praising a changed tone.
I am very pleased to see that we were able to inspire his party's messaging today.
- misdirectedHousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition's past record and insults rather than explaining why the accelerator fund has coincided with falling construction numbers.
While they insult mayors, throw slurs at them and talk about how incompetent municipal governments, elected in their own right, are, we will stand up and get the job done.
- misdirectedHousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer pivots to poverty statistics and past Conservative records instead of addressing the proposed dollars-for-doors policy or current cost increases.
there were 2.7 million more people in poverty when they were in government than what is happening today.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMs. Christine Normandin (Bloc) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer states that transfers are independent decisions by Correctional Service Canada but does not address the minister's lack of awareness or the eight-year pattern.
The decision in the case in question was a choice made by Correctional Service Canada.
- partly answeredPublic SafetyMs. Christine Normandin (Bloc) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer begins to explain the timeline of information but cuts off without fully addressing the proposed read-receipt system for briefings.
It was only once we had all of the details at the end of May that the Prime Minister—
- partly answeredImmigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms the Supreme Court ruling and ongoing monitoring but does not commit to expanding gender-based exemptions in the safe third country agreement.
To the extent that we want to look for ways to improve the agreement over the years ahead, we will continually monitor this particular issue
- answeredGrocery IndustryMr. Daniel Blaikie (NDP) asked Mr. Francis Drouin (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly clarifies the recommendation and explains why a windfall tax is not immediately implemented by politicians.
What the recommendation says is that politicians should not be deciding what is a reasonable profit and that the Competition Bureau should be looking at it.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMrs. Stephanie Kusie (Conservative) asked Ms. Pam Damoff (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the resignation demand and instead criticizes the opposition for raising the issue.
To spread misinformation that Bill C-83 is in any way responsible for this is irresponsible.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMrs. Stephanie Kusie (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the resignation call by emphasizing independence of corrections rather than addressing the minister's actions.
we have an independent corrections system that makes decisions about the transfer of inmates independently.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids reversing the bill or taking action and instead stresses independence of the system.
transfers in this country have always been done independent of government and remain outside of politics.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the asker's approach and references US politics instead of addressing the bill reversal request.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise without engaging the resignation or apology demand, pivoting to system independence.
It is very unfortunate that such things are being said, especially when we know that our correctional system is founded on independence
- answeredPublic SafetyMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states that Bill C-83 has no relation to the transfer decision.
83 has nothing to do with the current situation and it has nothing to do with the correctional service's unfortunate decision regarding Mr. Bernardo.
- partly answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Ms. Pam Damoff (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the inquiry as an option under review but does not commit to launching it within the timeline.
the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs has indicated that that is an option on the table. We are currently reviewing all options on how we move forward.
- partly answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges ongoing talks on details but does not address the call for an immediate announcement.
The minister is having fruitful conversations with party leaders across the aisle.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMr. Dane Lloyd (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer rejects the premise of government involvement and pivots to independence of the agency without addressing accountability.
A decision was made, independent of government, by Correctional Service Canada to make a transfer effective
- deflectedPublic SafetyMr. Dane Lloyd (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer labels the question partisan and shifts to the seriousness of the crime without addressing the timeline or misinformation claim.
there is a peppering of partisan comments here.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyMr. Ziad Aboultaif (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the premise linking the bill to the transfer instead of addressing the minister's responsibility or resignation.
The link between Bill C-83 and the decision made by Correctional Service Canada to transfer this known killer is misinformation.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMr. Brad Redekopp (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer begins to pivot away from the policy question toward personal framing without completing a direct response.
many people in the House are parents, and I am a father.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyMrs. Stephanie Kusie (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer attacks the question as repulsive and politicizing rather than engaging the underlying public safety concern.
the idea that I would find those crimes anything other than repugnant, and that I or any member of the House would not do everything in their power to ensure public safety, is repulsive.
- partly answeredCanada Post CorporationMr. Gord Johns (NDP) asked Helena Jaczek (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes arm's-length status and general priorities but does not outline a specific plan to halt privatization.
There is a top priority in keeping its employees in the communities that it serves
- deflectedCanada Post CorporationMr. Taylor Bachrach (NDP) asked Helena Jaczek (Liberal). substantive question.The answer reiterates arm's-length status without addressing specific rural impacts or committing to no further closures.
I suppose I need to reiterate that Canada Post is a crown agency at arm's length from government.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMr. Jamie Schmale (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer emphasizes procedural independence and opposition tactics instead of addressing the three-month delay or the transfer decision.
The Correctional Service has always been independent.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMr. Jamie Schmale (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer stresses evidence-based approaches and avoiding partisanship without explaining the contract non-renewal or the Bernardo transfer.
It requires us not playing politics or attempting to extract partisan gain in dealing with this debate.
- partly answeredPublic SafetyMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains the purpose of Bill C-83 and CSC independence but does not address why the motion was refused.
The Correctional Service of Canada has always had the authority to make such decisions.
- answeredPublic SafetyMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states that transfers are independent decisions and that a review has been requested with a two-week timeline.
Now, we are asking Correctional Service Canada to conduct an investigation to determine whether it is possible to change this decision.
- answeredVeteransMr. Luc Desilets (Bloc) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). substantive question.The answer reports specific investments, staff hires, and backlog reduction figures addressing the delay question.
As of last week, the backlog is currently under 6,000, and we have seen a significant decrease of over 70%.
- partly answeredVeteransMr. Luc Desilets (Bloc) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). substantive question.The answer details progress on francophone claims and gap reduction but does not specify new actions to meet the 16-week standard.
We are working to make sure that these applications are processed as quickly as every other application.
- misdirectedHousingMr. Scott Aitchison (Conservative) asked Ms. Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to asking about the right to housing instead of addressing the decline in housing construction or the impact of borrowing.
I am curious to know whether my colleague agrees that his party should finally recognize the right to housing as a human right.
- deflectedHousingMr. Scott Aitchison (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks past Conservative housing records and lists general investments without addressing the accelerator fund or current construction decline.
I will just quote something: "Housing insecurity is widespread and homelessness is on the rise".
- partly answeredHousingMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Ms. Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists past investments but does not address immediate steps before July 1.
Since taking office in 2015, we, on this side of the House, have put in place the national housing strategy, which provides direct support to those who need housing and helps to build more housing.
- deflectedFinancial InstitutionsMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer states a review is underway without addressing the call to conclude the bank runs contrary to Canadian interests.
the Minister of Finance has instructed the Department of Finance to lead an immediate review of Canada's involvement.
- deflectedFinancial InstitutionsMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats the review without engaging the specific advice cited from Global Affairs or the finance committee.
The Minister of Finance has instructed the Department of Finance to lead a review of Canada's involvement.
- deflectedFinancial InstitutionsMr. Tom Kmiec (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer mentions a review but does not address recovering the $200 million or the executive's statements.
the Minister of Finance has instructed the department to conduct a comprehensive review of Canada's involvement, and our government has halted all government-led activity at the bank.
- partly answeredFisheries and OceansMs. Lisa Marie Barron (NDP) asked Joyce Murray (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains the new Act and ongoing work but does not address the low removal numbers or the proposed bill.
It gives us the tools to do just that.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMr. Alain Rayes (Independent) asked Mr. Bryan May (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists equipment deliveries but does not address soldiers purchasing their own gear or issuing a new directive.
Procuring modern equipment for the Canadian Armed Forces remains our government's top priority.