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Tuesday, May 30, 2023 · sitting No. 202
NDP forces supply-day debate on foreign-interference inquiry
New Democrat MP Jenny Kwan moved a supply motion calling for a public inquiry into foreign interference and the resignation of special rapporteur David Johnston. The motion, which occupied more than half the sitting, remained before the House at adjournment. Liberal MP Mark Gerretsen defended Johnston's work and accused the NDP of echoing Conservative attacks, while Conservative MP Bob Zimmer pressed the NDP to join efforts to defeat the government.
In Question Period, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre repeatedly challenged Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to dismiss Johnston and launch a public inquiry. Trudeau countered that Poilievre had refused intelligence briefings. Separate exchanges saw Conservative MPs Leslyn Lewis and Pat Kelly demand the cancellation of both the existing and proposed carbon taxes, with Liberal ministers Terry Duguid and Sean Fraser replying that the opposition ignored the costs of climate change.
Decided that day
- Bill S-5 passed third reading
- An amendment to Bill S-5 failed
- Bill S-12 advanced to second reading
- Bill C-49 introduced
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Privilege
Conservative MP Erin O'Toole rose on a question of privilege to report that CSIS had briefed him on efforts by the People's Republic of China to interfere with him because of his parliamentary actions.
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Conservative MP Kyle Seeback argued that the carbon tax raises costs throughout the food supply chain and drives food-bank use, while Liberal MP Terry Duguid said the tax spurs clean growth and that Conservatives ignore climate costs.
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New Democrat MP Charlie Angus said the government is denying Jordan's principle payments and leaving children without therapy, while Health Minister Patty Hajdu replied that the government is processing invoices as quickly as possible.
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Conservative MP Dan Mazier presented a petition from Swan River, Manitoba, residents demanding repeal of the government's soft-on-crime policies.
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- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer attacks the asker for refusing a briefing instead of addressing the call for a public inquiry.
He is choosing ignorance in order to be able to continue his unfounded attacks on our former governor general.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer shifts to attacking Poilievre's past record rather than responding to the demand for a public inquiry.
when the Leader of the Opposition was minister of elections, perhaps that was his approach and why he did not do anything to fight foreign interference
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer accuses the asker of hiding behind ignorance and personal attacks instead of addressing the question about silencing critics.
He is choosing to hide behind a veil of ignorance so that he does not have to allow the facts to get in the way of a good political argument or personal attack
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer references the asker's past ministerial oaths to deflect from the question about what is being hidden.
the hon. member was, at one point, a minister of the Crown and thereby subject to oaths of secrecy and cabinet confidences
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer explains existing parliamentary committees instead of addressing the request to launch a public inquiry.
the parliamentarians who sit on the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians see all the information and subsequently write reports that they share with Parliament
- answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer directly explains Johnston's conclusion against a public inquiry in response to the question about whom the PM will listen to.
He came to the conclusion that this would not be the best approach.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer accuses the asker of refusing a briefing instead of addressing the call to remove Johnston and launch an inquiry.
the leader of the Bloc Québécois, who is concerned about legitimacy and facts, refuses to be briefed on the secret and confidential information
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer praises Johnston and accuses opposition of playing politics instead of addressing the request to remove him.
It is unfortunate the opposition parties are choosing to play politics around this issue instead of actually standing up for—
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates past actions without addressing removal of Johnston or launching a public inquiry.
We will continue to take this issue seriously. We will continue to let the facts and the intelligence gathered by our agencies guide our reflections and actions in this regard.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservative leader for not taking a briefing instead of addressing the call for a public inquiry.
the only cover-up that is occurring right now is the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada, who continues to cover his own eyes from the classified briefing that we offer him.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to a foreign agent registry consultation and demands the opposition take a briefing rather than addressing the inquiry demand.
The best way forward is for the Conservative Party of Canada to take the briefing.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsTim Uppal (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer accuses Conservatives of voting against security tools and demands they take a briefing instead of addressing the inquiry.
Again, the contradiction is the Conservatives, who want to say they are taking this seriously, yet voted against the new authorities that we granted to our national security establishment to fight this scourge.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsTim Uppal (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses diaspora consultations and public hearings without addressing the demand to end the alleged cover-up or launch an inquiry.
That is why we conducted a public consultation on the foreign agent registry, and that is why we think there are compelling, intelligent reasons a public hearing would put the community at the centre of these conversations
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition leader's credibility for refusing a briefing instead of addressing the call to fire Johnston and launch an inquiry.
what was truly exposed for all to see was the Leader of the Opposition's credibility when he refused the government's offer to grant him access to highly sensitive information.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates RCMP actions and criticizes Conservative votes without addressing the misinformation claim about police stations.
It is the Conservatives who opposed the bill to give new tools to our national security establishment.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc leader for refusing a briefing instead of addressing the call for an independent public inquiry.
They refused to get access to this information because they prefer to play political games.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer promotes existing oversight bodies instead of addressing the demand for a public inquiry.
It was our government that created the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Marie-Hélène Gaudreau (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.Answer highlights past measures and suggests talking to committee members rather than explaining refusal of an inquiry.
I think the member will be happy if she talks to her colleagues who sit on these parliamentary committees.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked Mr. Terry Duguid (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer attacks Conservatives on climate denial instead of addressing carbon tax costs or cancellation.
When are the Conservatives going to get serious about climate change and stop the denial?
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked Mr. Terry Duguid (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer attacks Conservative credibility and mentions crypto instead of responding to carbon tax impacts.
The Leader of the Opposition has not walked back his comments.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Pat Kelly (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer pivots to climate change reality and fires without addressing the carbon tax question.
I would remind all members of the House that climate change is real.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMr. Terry Dowdall (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer criticizes Conservative positions and platform rather than addressing carbon tax affordability concerns.
The Conservatives should start being honest with the Canadian public.
- partly answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Rachel Blaney (NDP) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Answer defends the hearings process under Johnston but does not commit to a full public inquiry.
we are confident that Mr. Johnston has laid a path forward in holding public hearings
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Answer lists government actions and hearings but avoids addressing removal of Johnston or launching an inquiry.
We now have a public hearings process, which we hope to start in earnest
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. John Williamson (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Conservatives on environment instead of addressing removal of carbon tax.
The reality is that, for eight years now in the House, every time we advanced a policy that would reduce emissions, the Conservatives voted against it.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. John Williamson (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to climate denial accusations rather than responding to carbon tax 2 cancellation request.
Instead of putting policies on the table that would help fight climate change, they are obsessed with trying to deny it
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer discusses existing affordability programs without addressing the new carbon tax 2.0 question.
That is why our government has implemented programs to help Canadians with affordability.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.Answer lists government actions on rebates and health care but avoids confirming or denying another carbon tax.
Canadians told us three things.
- misdirectedIntergovernmental RelationsMr. Mario Simard (Bloc) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). substantive question.Answer attacks Bloc Québécois motives instead of committing to document release cooperation.
They look forward by looking back 35 years.
- misdirectedIntergovernmental RelationsMr. Mario Simard (Bloc) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). substantive question.Answer accuses Bloc of focusing on past instead of addressing cooperation with National Assembly.
The truth is that the Bloc has both feet firmly planted in the past.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer questions Conservative platform consistency rather than addressing food bank impacts of carbon tax 2.0.
When were Conservatives telling the truth?
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Dave Epp (Conservative) asked Pascale St-Onge (Liberal). loaded question.Answer promotes government responsibility and grocery rebate without answering when the tax will stop.
what a responsible government does is fight pollution while, at the same time, helping Canadians who need it most
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Warren Steinley (Conservative) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes unrelated farm support programs instead of addressing carbon tax effects or the question about the Prime Minister.
I would like to remind members of all the efforts we are making to help and support our farmers, who are the first to be affected by climate change.
- answeredJusticeMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly explains Bill C-48 as targeting violent repeat offenders and notes collaboration with police and provinces.
Bill C-48 targets precisely violent repeat offenders with weapons.
- answeredJusticeMr. Corey Tochor (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses bail reform by citing Bill C-48 and support from Saskatoon police for handling violent repeat offenders.
we have introduced Bill C-48 precisely to address violent repeat offenders with weapons, including knives, which was raised by Manitoba and other provinces.
- partly answeredJusticeMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses Bill C-48 and police support but does not address the specific question on creating an offence for breach of parole or home sentences.
What we are doing is implementing criminal law reforms that are based on evidence, not meaningless slogans.
- deflectedNatural ResourcesMr. Clifford Small (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). substantive question.The answer shifts to offshore wind opportunities and climate action instead of explaining why the tidal project was turned down.
Canadians expect their governments to accept the scientific reality that is climate change and to take concrete and bold action, something our colleagues across the aisle could learn from.
- partly answeredPharmacareMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes work on drug affordability and a new agency but does not commit to implementing full public pharmacare.
We put in place strong regulations a few months ago to bring the prices of patented medicines in Canada closer to what we want to see across the world.
- partly answeredHealthMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). substantive question.The answer claims prioritization of care and mentions a dedicated provider for invoices but does not address refusal to pay bills or legal duties under Jordan's principle.
In respect of the provider the member opposite is speaking about, the member now has a dedicated service provider in the department working to ensure that invoices are correctly submitted and remitted in payment as quickly as possible.