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Monday, May 29, 2023 · sitting No. 201
Commons spends day on finance estimates amid interference clashes
The House devoted most of the sitting to committee of the whole study of the main estimates for the Department of Finance. Members from all parties took turns questioning the government on spending priorities during the 15-minute speaking blocks allocated under proportional rotation.
Question period featured repeated exchanges on foreign interference. Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre pressed the government to dismiss special rapporteur David Johnston and call a public inquiry, while ministers Dominic LeBlanc and Marco Mendicino accused the opposition of refusing briefings and playing partisan games.
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- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.Answer attacks the asker for refusing documents instead of addressing the call to fire the rapporteur.
the only person here who is trying to hide the truth seems to be the Leader of the Opposition himself.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.Answer accuses the asker of partisan games and self-silencing rather than responding to the demand for a public inquiry.
it is the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada who is silencing himself by refusing to take the briefings.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Answer shifts to urging the asker to take briefings instead of addressing the police stations or inquiry request.
If he is seriously about it, he will take the briefings, roll up his sleeves, sit at the table and help us defend our democracy from foreign interference.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Answer again attacks the asker for refusing briefings instead of addressing the police stations or inquiry.
It is he and he alone who refuses to take this issue seriously because he refuses to take the briefing.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Answer begins by criticizing Conservatives and cuts off without addressing the NDP on breaking the coalition.
we have watched as a party that once recognized David Johnston as one of the most outstanding—
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.Answer urges the asker to review documents instead of committing to a public inquiry.
I once again encourage the leader of the Bloc Québécois to accept the government's offer to access the most sensitive and specific details that Mr. Johnston and the committee of parliamentarians, which includes a representative from the Bloc Québécois and from each of the other opposition parties, had access to.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.Answer repeats the offer of documents and avoids any commitment to an inquiry.
I invite my colleague from La Prairie to talk to his leader and convince him to take advantage of the government's serious offer to share highly sensitive intelligence, so that the leader of the Bloc Québécois and his colleague who sits on the committee of parliamentarians in charge of looking into precisely this type of issue can look at the very facts that Mr. Johnston and the committee of parliamentarians will see to reach their conclusions.
- answeredInnovation, Science and IndustryMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly affirms the government will keep the jobs in Canada and ensure the deal proceeds.
the answer, absolutely, is yes. We will ensure that the deal goes forward. We will ensure that the jobs will stay in Canada.
- partly answeredHousingMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Ms. Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses housing funding but not rent prices or immediate crisis action.
Quebec has received more than $5 billion to build or renovate thousands of housing units.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Kyle Seeback (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Conservatives and quotes Harper instead of addressing the inquiry call.
It is interesting that somebody whom the Conservatives lifted up and venerated as one of the greatest Canadians, when he disagrees with them, suddenly is roadside trash.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Kyle Seeback (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer praises Johnston's service but avoids the conflict of interest or public inquiry question.
David Johnston has been a great friend to Canada.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.Answer accuses Conservatives of partisanship rather than addressing the inquiry demand.
It is solely the Conservatives who want to continue to engage in partisanship rather than defend the national interest.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioners for inconsistency on Johnston instead of addressing the inquiry.
It was okay for them to choose him to look into malfeasance for their former prime minister and former leader, but now, all of a sudden, they do not trust him.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to past Conservative inaction and government actions without addressing the inquiry call.
The Conservatives, however, did absolutely nothing to strengthen our democratic institutions.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.Answer cites Harper's past appointments of Johnston to deflect from conflict concerns.
perhaps my colleague opposite should consult his former boss, Mr. Harper, the former Conservative prime minister of Canada, who asked this individual, Mr. Johnston, to serve not only as the Governor General of Canada
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses diplomats but ignores the public inquiry request on foreign interference.
if any diplomats here in Canada fail to comply with the Vienna Convention, we will, of course, declare them persona non grata
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Answer promotes rapporteur's work and recommendations instead of addressing why no public inquiry.
Now, he is recommending that we invite all Canadians and everyone to have an open and transparent conversation about creating new tools to defend our democratic institutions.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Answer shifts to public hearings and diaspora focus without explaining refusal of a full inquiry.
This is exactly what Mr. Johnston recommends, namely, that we hold public hearings to engage in a conversation based on facts, not on fear, and to study all our options for creating new tools to protect our institutions.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Mr. Terry Duguid (Liberal). substantive question.Answer attacks opposition credibility and changes subject to other policies rather than addressing carbon tax costs.
Its members have no credibility on affordability.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.Answer discusses affordability measures and climate plan but avoids explaining the new tax's impact on single mothers.
we agree that we need to make sure that life is affordable.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer counters with a question about clean air and attacks Conservatives instead of addressing the PBO cost figure.
I would like to ask my colleague what he plans to say to mothers when their children no longer have clean air to breathe because of problems caused by climate change.
- partly answeredHousingMs. Bonita Zarrillo (NDP) asked Ms. Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses speculative investments with specific measures but does not directly tackle rent affordability for average Canadians.
That is why our government imposed a tax on residential real estate owned by non-Canadians.
- answeredImmigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Mrs. Marie-France Lalonde (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly states focus on victims and opportunities to present evidence without deportation.
Victims of fraud would have an opportunity to demonstrate their situation and present evidence to support their case.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMrs. Kelly Block (Conservative) asked Mr. Terry Duguid (Liberal). substantive question.Answer highlights climate costs and attacks denial instead of addressing the proposed tax increases on fuel.
What is it going to take for the Conservatives to stop the denial and take climate change seriously?
- deflectedCarbon PricingMrs. Kelly Block (Conservative) asked Pascale St-Onge (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the question on carbon tax costs and instead attacks Conservatives while shifting to wildfires.
It is totally irresponsible of the Conservatives to want to not only get rid of the price on pollution, but also vote against the budget that proposes meaningful measures to help families while inflation is high.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Clifford Small (Conservative) asked Gudie Hutchings (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the carbon tax question entirely by pivoting to past disasters and future threats without addressing the tax.
All that comes with a price. It is sad that the others do not have a plan to address all this because there is more coming.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Clifford Small (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.Answer mentions one program but then attacks the opposition's lack of climate plan instead of addressing the carbon tax impact on fishers.
It is appalling that the party opposite has no plan to fight climate change.
- partly answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Marie-Hélène Gaudreau (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.Answer addresses the call for an inquiry by describing the parliamentary committee process but does not commit to an independent public inquiry.
A committee of parliamentarians representing all parties and having access to the most sensitive information will evaluate all measures that are in place and make recommendations to the government on how we can further strengthen the measures we implemented.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Marie-Hélène Gaudreau (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.Answer defends the process and criticizes the Bloc without addressing the specific concerns about secrecy and lack of focus on interference.
I know the Bloc Québécois does not like that, but that is exactly how a responsible government works.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer cuts off but immediately shifts to wildfires instead of responding to the carbon tax and food bank question.
what I find very disturbing is that we have not heard a single word about the wildfires from the Conservative Party of Canada that are raging across the country right now.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMs. Lianne Rood (Conservative) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer pivots to climate impacts on farmers and biofuels without addressing the carbon tax costs on diesel or food production.
as we all know, farmers are the first to be affected by climate change and extreme weather events.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Richard Lehoux (Conservative) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer lists existing benefits and a fund but does not address the second carbon tax or reducing food costs for farmers.
this gives me an opportunity to remind my colleague of some of the measures that we put in place to help those who need it most, including the Canada child benefit and the various benefits for low-income workers and caregivers.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyMr. Kelly McCauley (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservatives on foreign interference instead of addressing the funding or shutdown question.
They have voted against legislation to give our national security establishment more powers to fight this scourge.
- partly answeredJusticeMr. Frank Caputo (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains amendments and stakeholder input but does not commit to undoing Bill C-75.
we have proposed amendments to the bail regime to answer their concerns.
- partly answeredJusticeMr. Dan Muys (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends the new bill with police quotes but does not address undoing Bill C-75 or catch-and-release.
We are convinced that the legislative changes put forth in Bill C-48 will go a long way to help eliminate the preventable harm and senseless tragedies attributable to violent and repeat offenders across Canada.
- answeredFisheries and OceansMr. Alistair MacGregor (NDP) asked Joyce Murray (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly commits to investigating the stalled project and meeting commitments.
I will investigate the situation that the member has just raised.
- answeredEmergency PreparednessMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Bill Blair (Liberal). substantive question.The answer provides exact current numbers and timing details on wildfires.
there are currently 179 wildfires burning in Canada, 68 of which are out of control.
- answeredPoints of OrderMr. John Williamson (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly denies the accusation of implying absence or misleading the House.
I am honestly not sure what the member opposite is talking about.