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Thursday, May 4, 2023 · sitting No. 191
House debates foreign agent registry amid China interference claims
The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to a Conservative opposition day motion calling for an immediate foreign agent registry and other measures to counter alleged intimidation by the People's Republic of China against Canadian politicians and diaspora communities. Conservative MP Michael Cooper moved the motion, which cites committee testimony and security reports detailing threats including those targeting the family of a member of Parliament.
Question Period featured repeated exchanges on the same issue. Conservative MP Michael Chong told the House that a 2021 briefing he received was general and did not mention specific threats from a Toronto consul, and he asked the Prime Minister to correct statements suggesting otherwise. Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino replied that the government takes the concerns seriously and has briefed 49 parliamentarians as noted in the newly tabled CSIS report.
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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh pressed the government to treat housing as an emergency rather than a commodity, while Parliamentary Secretary Soraya Martinez Ferrada cited the national housing strategy's record of building or renovating 480,000 units.
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NDP MP Don Davies asked the government to end a quarter-century of delay on universal public pharmacare, and Health Minister Jean-Yves Duclos pointed to the new strategy for drugs for rare diseases and the coming Canada drug agency.
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Liberal MP Sherry Romanado asked about federal support for communities hit by flooding, and Emergency Preparedness Minister Bill Blair offered condolences for two volunteer firefighters who died and said the government is monitoring conditions.
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Bloc Québécois MP Rhéal Éloi Fortin questioned the government's focus on the coronation of King Charles III while Quebec faces floods and affordability issues, and Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez replied that the government is focused on priorities of Quebeckers.
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- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids correcting the record on the briefing and instead offers general assurances about foreign interference.
I want to assure my colleague opposite that we take the concerns that he has expressed, and that have been expressed in public, with regard to foreign interference and the targeting of himself and his family extremely seriously
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.The answer thanks the member and restates the timeline of action but does not correct the record about the report reaching PCO.
I can also assure him that, as the Prime Minister said and as I said earlier this week, we found out on Monday of this week
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMichael Chong (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights recent actions taken but does not address why the government ignored earlier CSIS advice.
we are taking concrete action. In fact, as my colleague would know, I hope, the Minister of Foreign Affairs , earlier today, summoned the Chinese ambassador
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the accusation of siding with Beijing and the demand for an apology by restating general support.
I want to reassure my colleague. We share the concerns of the member for Wellington—Halton Hills , which is why we offered him a briefing.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). loaded question.The answer acknowledges frustration but ignores the call to apologize and the claim of disinformation.
I fully understand the frustration and fear that our colleague felt knowing that he and his family could be targeted by the government in Beijing.
- answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Christine Normandin (Bloc) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states when the government learned of the concerns, addressing the secrecy question.
It was only on Monday of this week that the Prime Minister, the government members and I were informed about concerns regarding the member for Wellington—Halton Hills .
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Christine Normandin (Bloc) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer pivots to general cooperation with allies and does not engage the accusation of willful blindness.
the government is working closely with our allies, including the Five Eyes and the G7. That is why we created a protocol to combat disinformation.
- deflectedHousingMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Ms. Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates existing housing programs without acknowledging an emergency or broken promises.
We share the same objective, which is to increase the housing supply for all Canadians in this country. This is exactly why we created the national housing strategy.
- deflectedHousingMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Ms. Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). loaded question.The answer dismisses the premise instead of addressing when action will be taken on housing.
Where I come from, when someone uses the "all talk, no action" line, it is because they have run out of arguments.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses summoning the ambassador but avoids explaining why the operative was allowed to continue.
This is consistent with Canada's strong position when it comes to hostile activities, especially with regard to foreign interference.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives' past position rather than answering why the operative remains in Canada.
I will tell the House that that is a far better approach than the one the Conservatives proposed when we were getting the two Michaels back, which would have been to capitulate to the People's Republic of China.
- partly answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Larry Brock (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.The answer states the minister was informed on Monday but does not address the claim about earlier briefings.
That is why, as soon as we were informed about this issue, which was Monday earlier this week, we reached out to him directly.
- answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Larry Brock (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states when the minister was informed and reiterates outreach to the member.
As I said, I was informed on Monday of this week of the specific issue pertaining to the member for Wellington—Halton Hills
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reiterates support but avoids addressing the call for an apology over the morning statements.
the government did reach out to the member for Wellington—Halton Hills to express our support for him and his family.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to general measures taken instead of addressing the demand for an apology.
That is why we granted powers to new authorities.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights briefings given but does not explain why no action was taken earlier on the reported issues.
The report indicates that CSIS offered 49 briefings to members here, in the House of Commons.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses general measures against foreign interference without addressing the specific MPs targeted.
That is why, as soon as this government took office, we gave CSIS new powers, we invested new resources and we enhanced the level of transparency with the help of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Marie-Hélène Gaudreau (Bloc) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). substantive question.Avoids the call for an inquiry by focusing on existing measures.
we have made investments and we trust our national security agencies to do the job of protecting all members who work in the House.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Dan Albas (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The response emphasizes unity against threats but sidesteps the demand to expel operatives.
All of us stand firm and resolute against the threat to democracy.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.Begins by agreeing on the disgusting nature but does not address the apology request.
what we can agree on unequivocally is that it is disgusting—
- partly answeredHousingMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Ms. Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). substantive question.Acknowledges challenges and lists past actions but does not commit to the requested number of units.
We have built or renovated 480,000 housing units.
- deflectedPharmacareMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.Focuses on specific initiatives for drug access without committing to universal pharmacare.
I will mention the launch, just a few weeks ago, of the strategy for drugs for rare diseases, a half-billion-dollar investment every year for the next three years
- partly answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Michael Cooper (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.States that all options including expulsion are on the table while noting assessments of interests.
That being said, all options are on the table, including the expulsion of diplomats.
- deflectedClimate ChangeMr. Mike Morrice (Green) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). substantive question.Highlights existing commitments and provincial actions without addressing regulations for Ontario specifically.
Alberta will have eliminated coal this year. This is what we are aiming to do across the country.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Todd Doherty (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer expresses support for the MP but avoids addressing the call to expel Zhao Wei.
We will continue to support him and all members in the chamber, because every member of Parliament, every parliamentarian, has a right to represent their constituencies.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates prior actions taken but sidesteps the direct request to expel the diplomat.
as I have already said, my hon. colleague the Minister of Foreign Affairs summoned the Chinese ambassador to firmly set the boundaries for activities that are legitimate and others that fall under the category of foreign interference.
- deflectedCanadian HeritageMr. Rhéal Éloi Fortin (Bloc) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer changes the subject to unrelated priorities instead of addressing the monarchy question.
Quebeckers are currently dealing with floods and climate change.
- deflectedCanadian HeritageMr. Rhéal Éloi Fortin (Bloc) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer pivots to criticizing the Bloc and listing other issues rather than explaining the coronation events.
While we Liberals discuss the floods and the cost of living in Quebec, cell phone charges and health care, the Bloc Québécois suddenly wakes up and starts talking about the monarchy.
- partly answeredJusticeMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses bail system work but does not engage with the broader claim about the PM's legacy on crime and drugs.
Canadians deserve to feel safe and to be safe. That is precisely why we have been working with the provinces and territories to strengthen the bail system, among other things.
- misdirectedThe EconomyMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the Conservatives' budget vote instead of addressing the PM's travel or inflation measures.
what is scandalous to the people listening to us today is that the Conservatives are going to vote against the budget.
- misdirectedGovernment PrioritiesMrs. Shelby Kramp-Neuman (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's motives about the PM's vacation rather than addressing foreign interference or governance priorities.
It seems that the Conservatives want to torque and play partisan games with a family vacation that the Prime Minister took.
- misdirectedHousingMr. Pat Kelly (Conservative) asked Ms. Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservative leader and former mayors instead of addressing housing permit delays or gatekeepers.
I am astounded that Conservative members who are themselves former mayors did not call their own leader on that.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Pat Kelly (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists Liberal measures and attacks Conservatives without addressing the PM's trips or specific question on costs.
We have put measures in place, like the Canada child benefit, like the climate action incentive, like increasing the guaranteed income supplement, like the new grocery rebate.
- misdirectedThe EconomyMr. Eric Melillo (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservatives on unrelated issues like St. Thomas instead of addressing inflation or PM responsibility.
we will take no lessons from these Conservatives who have let the town of St. Thomas in southwestern Ontario down, who have let 8,000 workers down, who have let the auto sector down.
- deflectedElectoral ReformMr. Daniel Blaikie (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses voting access generally but avoids the electoral reform promise and motions raised.
We are always looking at ways to ensure that our electoral system is accessible and is reflective of the choices Canadians make in their governments.
- misdirectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Michael Cooper (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer condemns activities but then attacks Conservatives for politicizing instead of answering on expulsion.
They need to stop politicizing this issue and get behind the cause of the government to defend our institutions.
- answeredPoints of OrderKerry-Lynne Findlay (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly clarifies the speaker's request and the member's compliance with the ruling.
The Speaker's office asked me to withdraw and apologize.
- answeredPoints of OrderMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer confirms the member apologized after the Speaker's instruction as requested in the point of order.
She did then go the next week and apologize, unequivocally, in the House.
- answeredPoints of OrderKerry-Lynne Findlay (Conservative) asked Mr. Mark Gerretsen (Liberal). substantive question.The answer provides an unreserved apology for the specific choice of words raised in the point of order.
I apologize unreservedly for my choice of words because I have led people to believe that he knew about what was being talked about today specifically.
- answeredBusiness of the HouseMr. Eric Duncan (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly lists the planned legislation and schedule for the coming week.