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Monday, January 30, 2023 · sitting No. 149
Commons opens second reading debate on early learning and child care bill
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on second reading of Bill C-35, an act respecting early learning and child care in Canada. Minister of Families Children and Social Development Karina Gould moved the bill and described it as the culmination of 52 years of advocacy. Members from the Bloc Québécois Conservative Party and New Democratic Party raised questions about jurisdiction wages and access during the opening exchanges.
Question period featured repeated exchanges over federal spending on consultants. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre asked three times how much McKinsey and Company received from the government. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau defended the spending as investment in families seniors and students.
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- deflectedPublic Services and ProcurementPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer promotes government investments without addressing the specific question about McKinsey contracts.
We were able to create millions of jobs, while lifting millions of people out of poverty.
- deflectedPublic Services and ProcurementPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer repeats talking points on supports for renters and families while ignoring the repeated question on McKinsey spending.
while the Leader of the Opposition snickers at the middle class, we will stay focused on supporting it.
- deflectedPublic Services and ProcurementPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists past investments and criticizes Conservative policies instead of answering the McKinsey funding question.
We are going to continue to step up by investing in Canadians while the Conservatives continue to push cuts and austerity
- deflectedPublic Services and ProcurementPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attributes inflation to global factors and highlights G7 metrics without addressing McKinsey payments.
That is why we have stepped up to support Canadians, despite Conservative politicians voting against it.
- deflectedPublic Services and ProcurementPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer contrasts the questioner's approach with government support for Canadians and avoids stating any McKinsey figure.
instead of proposing real solutions and instead of telling Canadians how he is going to help them and invest in them, the Conservative leader stands up, crosses his arms, throws his hands up and says, "everything is broken".
- misdirectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses fighting Islamophobia at a mosque event rather than addressing the appointment's divisive impact or the question about unity.
We must all stand up every single day to recognize and fight Islamophobia.
- answeredGovernment AppointmentsMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly supports the requested meeting and offers to facilitate it.
Yes, I will certainly facilitate that meeting, and I know that Ms. Elghawaby would be delighted to meet the Bloc Québécois leader.
- partly answeredHealthMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms commitment to public health care and the Canada Health Act but does not explain the shift in position on for-profit care.
We will continue to stand up for our public system.
- deflectedHealthMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates commitment to the Canada Health Act without addressing the specific flip-flop accusation regarding Doug Ford.
I and the Liberal government have always been very, very clear that we stand for a public health system that fully abides by the Canada Health Act.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists government measures and notes Conservative votes against them instead of addressing spending or inflation concerns.
The Conservatives voted against all of those essential measures.
- misdirectedThe EconomyMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservative policies rather than responding to the question about Liberal spending and contracts.
The Conservatives are proposing to eviscerate our essential EI system.
- deflectedThe EconomyMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to job creation and a past vote instead of addressing rental inflation or housing costs.
The best way to pay one's rent and to pay one's mortgage is to have a job, and that is why our government has been relentlessly focused on job creation.
- deflectedThe EconomyMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends the economy and credit rating without addressing the claim of homegrown inflation from spending.
Canada has the lowest deficit in the G7, the lowest debt-to-GDP ratio and, in 2022, Canada had the strongest economic growth.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights past poverty reduction measures instead of addressing current food bank demand increases.
Over one million Canadians have been lifted out of poverty thanks to the measures that we put in place, including the Canada child benefit and the increase in benefits for seniors.
- deflectedThe EconomyMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer cites child poverty reductions and programs without addressing rising food costs or food bank shortages.
It is because of our programs, such as the Canada child benefit or the child care and early childhood program, that fees have dropped by 50% across the country.
- partly answeredJusticeMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses the notwithstanding clause by stating the government is considering options to defend Charter rights.
our government has always been very clear with respect to concerns about the pre-emptive use of the notwithstanding clause by the provinces, and we are considering all our options.
- partly answeredJusticeMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses the quote and explains the distinction on pre-emptive use but does not say whether the government will back down.
It was intended to give the last word, but when it is used pre-emptively, it becomes the first word and it cuts off debate in legislatures like ours and in the courts.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.Answer restates the government's general position without addressing the specific accusations about Quebec bills.
This should not be the first word. It should be the last resort.
- partly answeredPublic Services and ProcurementMrs. Stephanie Kusie (Conservative) asked Helena Jaczek (Liberal). loaded question.Answer explains the purpose of procurement but does not address the specific amount spent on McKinsey or the Prime Minister's role.
the procurement of professional services is used to complement the work of Canada's professional public service by meeting unexpected fluctuations in workload and to acquire special expertise.
- partly answeredPublic Services and ProcurementMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Helena Jaczek (Liberal). loaded question.Answer assures adherence to policy and mentions a review but does not provide the total amount spent on McKinsey.
I will be testifying, alongside my officials, at the government operations committee to give more thorough and complete answers.
- partly answeredPublic Services and ProcurementMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Helena Jaczek (Liberal). loaded question.Answer describes procurement rules and a review but does not state the total amount given to McKinsey.
Following recent concerns about contracts provided to McKinsey, we are undertaking a full review of all procurements with this company.
- partly answeredAir TransportationMr. Taylor Bachrach (NDP) asked Omar Alghabra (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer notes passenger rights legislation and pandemic challenges but does not address the lack of fines or the minister's role.
our government was the first government in Canada's history to pass a bill in this chamber to support passengers' rights.
- deflectedTaxationMs. Laurel Collins (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.Answer lists existing tax measures but does not address implementing a windfall profits tax on grocery or oil companies.
That is why our government implemented a 15% COVID recovery dividend levied on our largest banks and insurance companies.
- answeredEthicsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mary Ng (Liberal). loaded question.Answer directly admits the mistake, apologizes, and references the commissioner's conclusion.
To the House, I apologize. I regret that I made a mistake. I should have recused myself.
- answeredEthicsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly responds to the explicit request for resignation with a clear no.
- deflectedEthicsMrs. Shelby Kramp-Neuman (Conservative) asked Ahmed Hussen (Liberal). loaded question.The answer explains rules and disclosure but avoids any mention of repaying the funds.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMr. Bernard Généreux (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses language improvements but sidesteps admitting government incompetence.
When the public raised some concerns, the Canada Border Services Agency made improvements to the service.
- deflectedHealthMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer expresses eagerness for the meeting but does not address bringing new funding.
The first ministers will meet to build on the major progress that the health ministers have made in recent months
- partly answeredHealthMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer details past and upcoming funding increases but does not confirm new money specifically at the February 7 meeting.
We also invested $2 billion just a few weeks ago to combat emergencies and problems facing hospitals.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Ahmed Hussen (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes the representative's clarification but does not address revoking the appointment.
The special representative has already clarified her remarks, and I would refer the member to her statement on this matter.
- partly answeredJusticeMs. Raquel Dancho (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms openness to reform ideas but gives no commitment to act immediately.
We remain open to good ideas and proposals from the opposition, and from provinces and territories, to reform our criminal justice system, including the bail system.
- partly answeredJusticeMs. Raquel Dancho (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer references prior changes and ongoing work but stops short of pledging new bail reform.
We are working with the provinces and territories to look at legitimate suggestions for bail reform.
- partly answeredJusticeMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses bail reform collaboration but ignores the Bill C-21 premise and specific incident.
We are doing the work. We are open to legitimate suggestions for bail reform.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists existing funding and meetings but avoids any commitment to bail reform.
Our government, in fact, has doubled down on support for law enforcement, violence prevention, mental health supports, and supports to address homelessness and poverty.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Marco Mendicino (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats past investments and avoids addressing bail reform or transit attacks directly.
That is the record of this government, and we will continue to build on it to protect all residents and all communities to keep them safe.
- partly answeredHousingMs. Leah Gazan (NDP) asked Dan Vandal (Liberal). substantive question.The answer states intent to keep housing non-profit and mentions outreach but provides no concrete actions taken.
I have written to the chair of the board of directors asking for a meeting.
- deflectedInfrastructureMr. Kevin Vuong (Independent) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses general waterfront collaboration but sidesteps the lack of consultation and rink removal.
I am happy to tell my colleague that I had a chance to meet with senior executives and board members of Waterfront Toronto in December.