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Thursday, April 4, 2019 · sitting No. 398
Conservatives accuse Liberals of misleading House on SNC-Lavalin
Oral questions on justice consumed the largest share of the sitting as Conservative MP Candice Bergen repeatedly charged that the Prime Minister misled the House about contacts with former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould. Liberal MP Bardish Chagger replied that the Prime Minister had granted an unprecedented waiver of solicitor-client privilege and cabinet confidence so that the justice committee could examine the matter fully.
The budget debate occupied the next largest block of time. Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre said only two of the former attorney general's five conditions had been met and accused the government of attempting to distract from the scandal with spending measures.
Other exchanges touched on pharmacare, carbon pricing and veterans' mental-health services.
Decided that day
- Budgetary policy passed
- Budget amendments failed
- Motion to proceed to Orders of the Day passed
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Who held the floor · 2019-04-04
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Foreign Affairs
Conservative MP Randy Hoback rose on a point of order to demand an emergency debate on canola exports, saying the government had refused the request for four days while 43,000 western producers faced planting decisions.
Read the exchangeManitoba Court Challenge
Conservative MP Ted Falk told the House that Manitoba Premier Brian Pallister had announced a court challenge to the federal carbon tax, joining Saskatchewan, Ontario and New Brunswick.
Read the exchangeVeterans Affairs
New Democrat MP Rachel Blaney said Veterans Affairs had shortened its psychological questionnaire, removing questions needed to diagnose PTSD, despite objections from its own advisory panel.
Read the exchangeTransportation
Liberal MP Angelo Iacono asked Transport Minister Marc Garneau to expand on the budget promise of up to $5,000 in incentives for zero-emission vehicles priced under $45,000.
Read the exchangeDutch Heritage Day
Members from all parties spoke in support of designating May 5 as Dutch heritage day, citing the liberation of the Netherlands and the contributions of Dutch Canadians.
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- deflectedJusticeCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer discusses the waiver and rule of law but avoids the specific accusation about the September 17 meeting.
The committee confirmed through testimony that the rule of law was intact in Canada and that the rule of law was followed.
- deflectedJusticeCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer emphasizes the waiver and investigations but does not address the claim of repeated warnings or falsehoods.
We believe that Canadians deserve to know and that is exactly why the Prime Minister waived solicitor-client privilege, as well as cabinet confidence.
- deflectedJusticeCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer focuses on committee process and waiver but sidesteps the accusations of interference, firing, and cover-up.
Justice committee members, members from all recognized parties in the House who sit on the justice committee, came together and set parameters when it came to these allegations to ensure that Canadians could hear about those allegations directly from witnesses.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer highlights the waiver and committee hearings but does not address the changing story or memory issues raised.
We know that members of the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights did their job.
- partly answeredJusticeMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). substantive question.The answer confirms documents will be released but avoids committing to earlier release before the election.
He knows very well that they will receive the requested documents.
- answeredJusticeMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly explains the inability to comment due to ongoing appeal period.
Therefore, I will make no pronouncement on the situation with respect to a deferred prosecution agreement.
- answeredJusticeMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly explains the inability to comment due to ongoing appeal period.
Therefore, I will make no pronouncement on this situation because it may have an impact on litigation.
- partly answeredPharmacareMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Ginette Petitpas Taylor (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses the advisory council but does not address committing to help Quebec's specific public pharmacare plan.
I received the interim report a month ago and I look forward to receiving the final report at the end of June.
- deflectedPharmacareMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Ginette Petitpas Taylor (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses studies and reports instead of committing to enacting pharmacare.
Unlike the NDP, we choose to want to have a plan as we move forward with this very important initiative
- deflectedJusticeMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats the waiver of privilege without addressing the claim of incomplete disclosure.
to ensure that Canadians can hear the truth is exactly why the Prime Minister waived solicitor-client privilege as well as cabinet confidence
- deflectedJusticeMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer accuses Conservatives of not paying attention rather than addressing the specific allegations.
What is interesting is the Conservatives continue to ask for more information, but the information has become quite repetitive
- deflectedJusticeMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates that facts are public without addressing the accusation of misleading.
- misdirectedJusticeMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives for repeating questions instead of addressing the waiver limitation.
If they ask me the same question, they are going to get the same answer because the truth is the truth
- misdirectedJusticeMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer accuses Conservatives of misleading rather than addressing the admission about concerns raised.
The Conservatives know very well when it comes to misleading, because that is what they continue to do day after day in the House
- misdirectedJusticeMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the member for Carleton and procedural issues instead of addressing the truth claim.
the member for Carleton is on his fourth day of the budget debate and nobody else can speak in the House
- deflectedJusticeMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer emphasizes facts being public without addressing the punishment of the member.
This is exactly why the Prime Minister waived solicitor-client privilege and cabinet confidence
- deflectedJusticeMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Maryam Monsef (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer ignores the question about the Prime Minister's choice and pivots to an unrelated program.
Yesterday when these seats were filled by 338 young women from across the country, we were able to see what is possible when the federal government steps in and invests in creating spaces and opportunities for young women to take their rightful seats in positions of power and influence.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the question about misleading statements and instead attacks the Conservatives while restating talking points.
What is clear is that the Conservatives will continue to focus on us, but we will continue to focus on Canadians.
- deflectedJusticeMrs. Rosemarie Falk (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the demand to tell the truth and repeats prior statements about waiving privilege.
to ensure that Canadians can hear the truth for themselves is exactly why the Prime Minister waived solicitor-client privilege as well as cabinet confidence.
- misdirectedJusticeMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the Conservatives and changes the subject rather than addressing the truth-telling question.
Parents also tell their children to respect the rules and institutions and to have a climate plant that will help future generations.
- misdirectedJusticeMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the justice question entirely and shifts to environmental policy and attacks on Harper.
one of the first things that Stephen Harper's Conservative government did was withdraw from the Kyoto protocol.
- answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Wayne Stetski (NDP) asked Mr. Sean Fraser (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses ending fossil fuel subsidies and climate action plans.
I am pleased to share that last week we commenced a consultation with Canadians to identify inefficient non-tax fossil fuel subsidies that we can phase out.
- partly answeredVeterans AffairsMs. Rachel Blaney (NDP) asked Mr. Stéphane Lauzon (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses some aspects of veterans' mental health support but adds an attack on the opposition.
The opposition had 10 years to provide mental health support to veterans, but it was too busy axing essential services and trying to balance the budget at the expense of veterans.
- answeredJusticeMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the leak concern and commitment to confidentiality in the appointment process.
As Minister of Justice, I will ensure that this does not happen again.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Michael Cooper (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids naming any leaker and pivots to process assurances instead.
I have said that I am deeply troubled by the publication of these details, but our nomination process will remain merit-based and will consider Canada's finest jurists for this lofty position.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Michael Cooper (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the specific accusation about Gerry Butts and offers only a general statement on fairness.
of course, it is unfair for parties to see their names and their information used as weapons in this kind of debate for political reasons.
- misdirectedJusticeMr. James Bezan (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the call for an investigation and instead attacks the opposition's record on the Court.
if the party opposite had any respect for the Supreme Court of Canada, it would not have attacked a sitting Supreme Court justice and appointed a candidate who had been reversed by the court.
- partly answeredImmigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Ahmed Hussen (Liberal). substantive question.The answer declines case specifics yet commits to collaboration and outlines the general merits-based process.
Every case that comes before my department is looked at based on its merits, and no decision is made on removal, especially after exhausting numerous avenues of appeal.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMr. François Choquette (NDP) asked Mr. Andy Fillmore (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing Netflix content requirements and shifts to general language investments and modernization.
While the NDP busies itself with petty politics, we are busy modernizing our laws.
- partly answeredJusticeMs. Leona Alleslev (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer states that uniform rules exist but does not explain their application to Admiral Norman versus others.
the rules for counsel in all cases are set by the department and apply to all members of Parliament and other people who work in the departments.
- partly answeredJusticeSteven Blaney (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer notes competent counsel and cooperation but does not address the double-standard claim on fees.
I know that General Norman has excellent legal representation.
- partly answeredJusticeErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reiterates known rules and notes able representation without resolving the fee-coverage disparity.
the rules for the retention of counsel for members of Parliament and for other officers of the government are well known.
- deflectedJusticePeter Kent (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer evades the demand for apology by attacking Conservatives instead of addressing the SNC-Lavalin claim.
The Conservatives will stay focused on rhetoric and shenanigans.
- answeredRail TransportationMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Marc Garneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly explains the leadership change and affirms continued work on the high-frequency train.
Cynthia Garneau will now be replacing him, and I am sure that she will guide us into the future with her vision to replace VIA Rail trains and work on the high-frequency train.
- deflectedJusticeMr. John Brassard (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the obstruction claim by listing unrelated government achievements.
For three and a half years now this government has been in office and we have seen almost 300,000 children lifted out of poverty.
- partly answeredIntergovernmental RelationsMrs. Marilène Gill (Bloc) asked David Lametti (Liberal). substantive question.The answer states the federal position on rights but does not address why Ottawa would intervene in Bill 21.
The state must not dictate what people can or cannot wear, regardless of their beliefs.
- deflectedIntergovernmental RelationsMrs. Marilène Gill (Bloc) asked David Lametti (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reiterates federal rights principles without committing to respect Quebec's bill or forgo court action.
Any initiative that erodes those rights is unacceptable.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMaxime Bernier (Independent) asked Mr. Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's party for denying climate change rather than addressing the carbon-tax price impact.
I am beginning to get sick of politicians on the right side of the spectrum denying this truth.
- answeredBusiness of the HouseCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists the planned House business for the coming days without evasion.