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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 · sitting No. 397
Trudeau faces opposition attacks over SNC-Lavalin and caucus expulsions
Oral questions on justice dominated the sitting as Conservative leader Andrew Scheer pressed Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on inconsistencies in accounts of the SNC-Lavalin affair. Scheer said the former attorney general had raised concerns directly with the prime minister and other officials yet was removed from caucus. Trudeau replied that caucus membership involves responsibilities of trust and that the decision followed consultations with Liberal members.
New Democrat leader Jagmeet Singh and NDP MPs Niki Ashton and Georgina Jolibois questioned the prime minister on mercury poisoning in Grassy Narrows and broader relations with indigenous peoples. Trudeau acknowledged past remarks lacked respect and pointed to federal investments and ongoing talks with the community.
Decided that day
- Motion to proceed to Orders of the Day passed
- Second reading of Bill C-420 failed
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Who held the floor · 2019-04-03
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Carbon Pricing
Conservative MP Michael Barrett said the prime minister's carbon tax raises costs for rural Canadians and exempts major emitters while burdening small businesses and farmers.
Read the exchangeCanola
Conservative MP Randy Hoback called the China canola dispute a national economic emergency caused by the prime minister's failed leadership.
Read the exchangeDaughters of the Vote
Liberal MP Terry Duguid said the 338 young women who took seats in the chamber demonstrate the need for more women in politics and praised Equal Voice.
Read the exchangeIntergovernmental Relations
Liberal MP Gudie Hutchings asked about the renewed Atlantic Accord and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said it creates jobs and supports resource development in Newfoundland and Labrador.
Read the exchangeHousing
Liberal MP Neil Ellis noted funding for Hastings County under the national housing strategy and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said the plan aims to cut chronic homelessness by half.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedCaucus MembershipAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to caucus trust and government priorities without addressing the claim about truth-telling.
I had extensive conversations with members of our caucus, who informed me that they felt trust was broken.
- deflectedCaucus MembershipAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates the same talking points on trust and priorities without engaging the question on falsehoods.
Maintaining trust within a caucus is essential if we are to keep fighting for important things such as achieving reconciliation, tackling climate change and growing the economy for everyone.
- misdirectedCaucus MembershipAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives and shifts to cabinet women instead of addressing the disqualification claim.
I will take no lessons from the Conservatives on the matter of strong leadership.
- misdirectedCaucus MembershipAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer accuses Conservatives of avoiding other topics and lists Liberal achievements rather than answering the question.
what has been obvious for a number of weeks now is that the Conservatives will go to any ends to avoid talking about the budget, to avoid talking about climate change, to avoid talking about the things that matter deeply to Canadians.
- misdirectedCaucus MembershipAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer counters with an attack on the opposition's record instead of addressing the rule-of-law question.
I would be careful about throwing stones about falsehoods when I am sitting in the official opposition's chair.
- partly answeredIndigenous AffairsMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer apologizes and notes ongoing work with the community but does not commit to a personal visit.
We have continued to work in partnership with the province that holds a significant area of responsibility in this matter to ensure that we are supporting the people of Grassy Narrows.
- deflectedCaucus MembershipMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes encouraging women in politics without addressing the criticism of the message sent by caucus removals.
on the contrary, my message to the young women here today and across the country is that they should get into politics.
- deflectedCaucus MembershipMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists Liberal priorities instead of responding to the attack on women standing up for principles.
That is why we are focusing on reconciliation, economic growth, gender equality, strong investments in communities across the country, a plan for pharmacare, and a plan for investing in municipal infrastructure.
- deflectedCaucus MembershipMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the question about expulsions by praising other women ministers instead.
I am certain that the member for Burnaby South did not mean to even inadvertently disparage the extraordinary women who remain in our government
- partly answeredJusticeAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses the waiver and testimony but does not directly confirm the AG came forward to the PM as asked.
We issued an unprecedented order in council waiving solicitor-client privilege and cabinet confidence, allowing her to speak fully on the matter.
- misdirectedJusticeAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer ignores the specific timing question and attacks the opposition on unrelated topics like climate plans.
What we see once again are members opposite trying to talk about anything other than the economy, the budget, the canola challenge that our western farmers are facing right now.
- deflectedJusticeAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids the yes/no question on knowledge of the call by pivoting to opposition plans.
I can understand that the members opposite want to stay on this and do not want to talk about the fact that they have no plan to fight climate change
- deflectedJusticeAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer diverts to the Ethics Commissioner instead of answering the yes/no question.
In this House, members opposite are free to make all sorts of accusations, allegations and sling mud as they will, but we have an Ethics and Conflict of Interest Commissioner who is tasked with digging to the bottom of things
- deflectedJusticeAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer cuts off without addressing the question and shifts blame to the opposition.
What we have right now is the Conservative Party desperate to try to stretch out a matter that has—
- answeredJusticeAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states the PM was not debriefed on the call as asked.
as we have said repeatedly and as we have heard repeatedly, I was not debriefed on that conversation between the clerk and the minister.
- partly answeredIndigenous AffairsMs. Georgina Jolibois (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses investments and reconciliation but does not commit to the requested visit.
We have made historic investments since 2015, including advancing reconciliation in concrete ways, securing a better quality of life and improving access to safe, clean drinking water.
- deflectedIndigenous AffairsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The response highlights positive initiatives rather than addressing the accusations of disrespect.
from the very beginning, the government has been focused on partnership with indigenous peoples.
- deflectedCaucus MembershipLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer justifies the decision without addressing the whistle-blower comparison directly.
unlike the members opposite, we have always embraced a range of viewpoints and perspectives within our party.
- misdirectedCaucus MembershipLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The response pivots to questioning the opposition's commitment instead of answering.
I would very much like to hear from the member opposite if she can tell us that her party has made the commitment that if they should form government again, they will have a gender-balanced cabinet.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses internal processes but does not address the request for documents.
We did not take action immediately. We took several weeks to try to bring together our caucus and work with the individuals in question.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The response claims commitment to transparency without committing to the specific request.
We are currently reviewing that request and will respond appropriately at the earliest opportunity.
- deflectedStatus of WomenMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes government gender policies without addressing the caucus expulsions.
I am proud that we have put forward budgets with a GBA-plus analysis.
- deflectedIndigenous AffairsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The response agrees on achievements but avoids the criticism of caucus treatment.
I agree entirely with the member opposite when he points out that we have done really big things as a government on the path to reconciliation.
- deflectedJusticeCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer emphasizes team unity without denouncing the comments.
We are going to continue to do what matters to Canadians in investing in their jobs and their future, while defending our institutions.
- deflectedJusticeCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the question by praising the cabinet and attacking Conservatives instead of addressing the expulsion or comments.
They are crassly exploiting a political situation for their own advantage and not thinking about the consequences for Canadians when we do not stand up for jobs, do not invest in opportunities for youth or do not support women's organizations like—
- deflectedJusticeMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the minister's comments and expulsions, pivoting to unrelated government priorities and attacking Conservatives.
Those are all things the Conservatives cannot talk about and do not want to talk about.
- partly answeredJusticeMrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer directly explains the decision to remove the members due to broken trust after attempting to work together.
However, when it became clear that the relationship of trust between these individuals and the caucus was broken, we could no longer continue to work together as a team.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer claims to respect voices but shifts to attacking the opposition and promoting government work without addressing the expulsions.
However, the member opposite does not seem to have any respect for the voices in our caucus and cabinet talking about the work the government will keep doing to deliver on its commitments for Canadians and to invest in the middle class and in our communities.
- misdirectedJusticeMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the credibility question and expulsions entirely, listing unrelated economic achievements instead.
We are seeing the creation of more than 900,000 jobs across the country and a drop in the unemployment rate to its lowest levels in 40 years.
- partly answeredJusticePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses the September meeting and confirms the decision was the AG's alone, while referencing testimony.
in my direct encounter in a meeting with the former attorney general in September, I confirmed to her that the decision around a DPA was hers and hers alone.
- answeredJusticePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly responds to the September meeting exchange and what was said.
once she said that, I responded, "No, I am not," and said it was her decision to make.
- deflectedJusticePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the inconsistency claim by attacking the questioner and shifting to committee testimony and unrelated topics.
once again the member opposite is twisting himself into rhetorical knots to try to make a point that is simply not there.
- deflectedJusticePierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the demand for an apology by dismissing inconsistencies and attacking the opposition instead of addressing the February 15 statement.
the member for Carleton continues to try to find inconsistencies where there simply are none.
- partly answeredJusticeMs. Leona Alleslev (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses the process of working with the former attorney general but sidesteps the core accusation about living up to the obligations of office.
we spent weeks working with the former attorney general and others to try to find a path forward to rebuild the links of trust that must exist within a team at any point for it to function.
- deflectedJusticeMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer pivots to praising committee work and waivers rather than addressing the call for a public inquiry.
We respect the work that the justice committee did in hearing hours upon hours of testimony, including testimony that was allowed for by the fact that we emitted an unprecedented waiver of both solicitor-client privilege and cabinet confidentiality
- misdirectedJusticeMr. Mark Strahl (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the request to apologize and resign and instead attacks the Conservatives on unrelated issues like climate change.
The Conservatives promised a plan to fight climate change 339 days ago and still refuse to talk about anything.
- answeredStatus of WomenMrs. Celina Caesar-Chavannes (Independent) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). rhetorical question.The statement is not a question but a positive remark, and the response directly acknowledges and thanks the member while addressing the topic of women in politics.
Bringing more women into the political process and our democratic institutions is fundamental if we are to achieve gender equality.