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Monday, November 20, 2017 · sitting No. 234

National security bill referred to committee as opposition presses on ethics

Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale moved that Bill C-59, An Act respecting national security matters, be referred forthwith to the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security. The government described the overhaul as the most significant since the CSIS Act of 1984. Conservative MP Pierre Paul-Hus and NDP MP Matthew Dubé questioned provisions on CSIS agents and CSEC mandates.

In Question Period Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer asked how many ISIS fighters have returned to Canada and what reintegration services would entail. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said national security agencies monitor returnees and the Canada Centre for Community Engagement and Prevention of Violence helps with disengagement. NDP MP Guy Caron pressed the Prime Minister on the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner's investigation into Finance Minister Bill Morneau's role in Bill C-27.

Conservative MP Peter Kent asked whether Liberal Party bagman Stephen Bronfman faces investigation following the Paradise Papers. Liberal MP Kamal Khera said the Canada Revenue Agency reviews links to Canadian entities and takes appropriate action.

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Who held the floor · 2017-11-20

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 36%, opposition 64% of the words spokenPrivate membersGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:35Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 30 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
29Another sitting that went nowhereThe sitting devoted nearly two hours to the National Security Act and other topics yet recorded no votes or bill progress. Most Question Period replies were deflected and only one point of order arose amid six Speaker interventions.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Department of Employment and Social Development Act

NDP MP Cheryl Hardcastle moved second reading of Bill C-348 to streamline applications for disability programs. Liberal MP Stéphane Lauzon said the government is committed to improving access to services.

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Public Services and Procurement

NDP MP Sheri Benson said the cost of repairs could surpass $1 billion and asked the minister to work with public servants on a plan B. Public Services and Procurement Minister Carla Qualtrough said the government has invested $192 million and hired 380 employees.

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National Defence

Conservative MP James Bezan said the government has removed allowances for ill and injured soldiers. National Defence Minister Harjit S. Sajjan said a 6.34 per cent pay raise and 5.1 per cent increase in allowances were approved.

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Fisheries and Oceans

NDP MP Sheila Malcolmson said Liberal members blocked debate on her bill and asked why coastal voices are stifled. Transport Minister Marc Garneau said it would be inappropriate to comment on committee decisions.

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Oral Questions

Conservative MP Luc Berthold asked whether the government will defend supply management in trade talks. Liberal MP Jean-Claude Poissant said the government will protect the system and grow exports to $75 billion by 2025.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Public SafetyAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists general security tools and monitoring without providing any numbers on returned fighters or their status.Our national security agencies are carefully monitoring these individuals, and our law enforcement agencies do the difficult work of collecting evidence required for convictions in Canadian courts.
  2. partly answered
    Public SafetyAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer begins describing the Canada Centre and disengagement resources but does not fully detail reintegration services for adult ISIS fighters.We have launched the Canada Centre for Community Engagement and Prevention of Violence, which helps to ensure that resources are in place to facilitate disengagement from violent ideologies.
  3. deflected
    Public SafetyAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights Yazidi support and general monitoring without answering the specific count of returning ISIS terrorists.At the same time, we protect and defend all Canadians by monitoring anyone who is returning after being involved in conflict overseas.
  4. deflected
    EthicsAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer affirms confidence in the Ethics Commissioner without addressing the specific ethics breaches or trust concerns raised.That is why we have confidence in the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner.
  5. deflected
    TaxationAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer emphasizes CRA investments and recoveries but does not address the Prime Minister's conversation with Bronfman or who he was speaking for.That is why we have invested close to a billion dollars over the past two years to ensure that people are paying their fair share of taxes.
  6. deflected
    EthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer defends the Ethics Commissioner without addressing the ongoing investigation into the finance minister's involvement in Bill C-27.We on this side of the aisle have faith in the work of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner.
  7. deflected
    EthicsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reiterates working with the commissioner but does not demand accountability from the minister or address the specific concerns raised.We will continue to work with the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner to ensure that all the rules are followed.
  8. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP and previous Conservative government instead of addressing the finance minister's conflict of interest or the Ethics Commissioner's investigation.
  9. deflected
    EthicsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer criticizes opposition tactics and pivots to economic growth instead of addressing the conflict of interest question.once again it is disappointing to see that the opposition has nothing but cheap shots and slinging mud when this government is focused on working with the Ethics Commissioner but is mostly focused on delivering the kind of growth for the middle class that Canadians voted for two years ago.
  10. deflected
    EthicsMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates general goals on retirement and working with the commissioner without confirming or denying prior knowledge of conflict.I will keep working to ensure a dignified retirement for Canadians across the country.
  11. partly answered
    EthicsMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly states actions taken on shares and ongoing work with the commissioner, addressing part of the trust question.I sold all my Morneau Shepell shares to ensure that I would no longer be in a conflict of interest, and I am certainly not at this time.
  12. deflected
    EthicsCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the multiple investigations query by reiterating work on retirement and commissioner review.I will continue to work to assure that Canadians can retire in dignity.
  13. deflected
    EthicsCandice Bergen (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer claims full disclosure but pivots to economic results instead of listing specific shares held.as I have said before, I made 100% disclosure of all my assets to the Ethics Commissioner.
  14. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer references ongoing commissioner work but does not confirm permission for the bill.By working with the Ethics Commissioner, as I have done from day one, that allows us to ensure we do not have conflicts of interest.
  15. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer emphasizes retirement dignity and pension options without answering the yes/no permission question.I really do care deeply about retirement dignity in this country.
  16. deflected
    EthicsMr. Scott Duvall (NDP) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer defends defined benefit plans and options but does not address withdrawing the bill.the Liberal Party government will continue to defend Canadians in defined benefit plans.
  17. deflected
    EthicsMs. Karine Trudel (NDP) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids addressing withdrawal of the bill or conflict of interest.we will keep working to ensure a dignified retirement for Canadians.
  18. deflected
    TaxationPeter Kent (Conservative) asked Ms. Kamal Khera (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids confirming or denying any investigation of Bronfman.our government is fully committed to combatting tax evasion and abusive tax avoidance.
  19. deflected
    TaxationMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Ms. Kamal Khera (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids addressing use of influence regarding the PM's friend.The CRA is reviewing links to the Canadian entities and will take any appropriate action.
  20. partly answered
    TaxationMs. Marilyn Gladu (Conservative) asked Ms. Kamal Khera (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses diabetes support but ignores the offshore tax comparison.The eligibility criteria for the disability tax credit have not changed.
  21. partly answered
    TaxationSteven Blaney (Conservative) asked Ms. Kamal Khera (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses disability tax credit access but ignores the offshore comparison.We have made the disability tax credit more accessible than ever before.
  22. deflected
    Public Services and ProcurementMs. Sheri Benson (NDP) asked Carla Qualtrough (Liberal). substantive question.The answer blames the prior government instead of committing to an alternative plan.the Harper Conservatives botched this program from the beginning.
  23. deflected
    Public Services and ProcurementMs. Brigitte Sansoucy (NDP) asked Carla Qualtrough (Liberal). substantive question.The answer blames the prior government instead of committing to an alternative plan.Stephen Harper's Conservatives botched this program from day one.
  24. answered
    Public SafetyMichelle Rempel (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states the number of returnees and outlines legal measures.the number of returnees known to the Government of Canada is in the order of 60
  25. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). loaded question.Answer discusses general security efforts and prosecutions but ignores the reintegration support claim and safety priority question.When evidence is discovered that indicates that offences against Canada have been committed, that evidence is put together in cases filed in court.
  26. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. James Bezan (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.Answer addresses pay and allowances with specific increases but does not engage the listed cuts or reversal demand.These allowances have also been increased by 5.1%.
  27. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). loaded question.Answer focuses on overall defence funding increases and ignores the reintegration versus injured soldiers contrast.With our new defence policy, we have probably the most well-funded defence policy since World War II.
  28. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMs. Sheila Malcolmson (NDP) asked Marc Garneau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer refuses to address committee interference or bill gaps and pivots to praising the government's bill.it would be totally inappropriate for me to comment on decisions taken by the procedure and House affairs committee.
  29. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer affirms commitment to peacekeeping but does not clarify troop numbers, police, locations or Security Council link.Canadians expect us to make a thoughtful and significant contribution to peacekeeping operations, and that is what we are going to do.
  30. deflected
    International TradeMr. Dean Allison (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.Answer discusses trade progress and APEC outcomes but avoids the no-show incident and East Asia Summit blocking.During the last APEC meeting, tangible progress was made toward a possible agreement, including locking in enforceable provisions with respect to labour and the environment
  31. deflected
    International TradeMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.Answer promotes general trade goals and APEC progress but sidesteps the TPP delay, beef duties and signing timeline.Over the course of the APEC meeting our government made real progress toward a possible agreement.
  32. deflected
    Mr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mr. Jean-Claude Poissant (Liberal). loaded question.Answer claims commitment to supply management but does not address negotiating table absence or promise-breaking concern.Ours is the party that fought to bring in supply management, and we will continue to protect and defend it.
  33. deflected
    EthicsMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.Answer gives general ethics assurances without addressing the specific conflict or minister's comments on the bridge.As far as the Ethics Commissioner knows, her recommendations and directives were very carefully followed.
  34. partly answered
    Canadian HeritageMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.Answer highlights CBC funding but does not address proposed solutions for print media crisis.we have reinvested $675 million in CBC/Radio-Canada to support journalistic information across the country.
  35. answered
    Public SafetyErin O'Toole (Conservative) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly states that Bill C-59 provides the legal authority for the requested redress system.Bill C-59 gives us the legal authority to do exactly what he has suggested in his question.
  36. deflected
    Air TransportationMr. Xavier Barsalou-Duval (Bloc) asked Marc Garneau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer explains the policy change as harmonization but avoids the premise that religious considerations override safety.We made the decision to accept blades up to six centimetres, or 2.5 inches, on aircraft to harmonize with international standards.
  37. deflected
    Air TransportationMr. Louis Plamondon (Bloc) asked Marc Garneau (Liberal). loaded question.Answer corrects the size limits and adds a sarcastic invitation rather than engaging the safety comparison.If he needs more than a can of baby powder during his trip, he can come see me.
  38. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer lists climate actions but does not confirm whether the Prime Minister will attend the summit.the Canadian delegation will be ably led by the Minister of Environment and Climate Change to the One Planet Summit.