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Tuesday, October 3, 2017 · sitting No. 211

Conservatives demand longer consultations on private corporation tax changes

The House spent most of the day on a Conservative opposition motion calling on the government to extend consultations on proposed tax changes for private corporations until January 31 2018. Pierre Poilievre moved the motion and argued the changes would harm small and medium-sized businesses while sparing the wealth of the prime minister and finance minister. Andrew Scheer said the measures would hurt local businesses and their employees and urged the government to listen to premiers and its own caucus members who oppose the plan.

Bill Morneau replied that the government had already held consultations and would consider five key points including protection for family farms and women entrepreneurs. The motion remained before the House at adjournment. In question period Scheer and Maxime Bernier pressed the finance minister on conflicts of interest and the exclusion of large corporate interests from the tax measures.

Decided that day

  • Bill C-47 passed second reading
  • Opposition motion on tax consultations defeated

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2017-10-03

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 39%, opposition 61% of the words spokenGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 19:00Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 9 h 0 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
71Bill Moves Forward, Tax Motion SinksThe House spent most of its time on supply and tax debates yet still advanced one government bill and introduced three private members' bills. An opposition motion on tax consultations was defeated after Question Period produced mostly deflected answers.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

The Environment

Linda Duncan said the commissioner of the environment found the government had failed to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and remained far from its 2020 and 2030 targets. Catherine McKenna said the government had a plan and was pricing carbon pollution after a decade of inaction by the previous government.

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Canadian Heritage

Pierre Nantel said the minister of Canadian heritage had signed a secret agreement with Netflix that offered no long-term vision for French-language content. Mélanie Joly said the government would work with Quebec cultural stakeholders to reform laws and protect culture online.

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Indigenous Affairs

Sheila Malcolmson said the government had excluded the Native Women's Association of Canada from the first ministers meeting despite promises of a nation-to-nation relationship. Carolyn Bennett said the prime minister would meet the association annually and include it in a later meeting of indigenous ministers.

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Natural Resources

Jamie Schmale said new regulatory hurdles had cost 350 jobs at a General Electric plant in Peterborough. Jim Carr said the government had created thousands of energy jobs through pipeline approvals including 15440 positions on the Trans Mountain expansion.

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Canadian Jewish Heritage Month Act

Erin O'Toole supported Bill S-232 to designate May as Canadian Jewish heritage month and praised the contributions of Jewish Canadians to the country's social economic and cultural fabric. Michael Levitt thanked colleagues across parties for backing the legislation.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    TaxationAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The response focuses on consultations without addressing the impact or scrapping the plan.We will now consider what we heard to make sure that we can continue to invest while creating a tax system that is fair.
  2. deflected
    TaxationAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Reiterates listening but avoids committing to extending period or voting for motion.All those things will be taken into consideration as we move forward with these reforms.
  3. deflected
    TaxationAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Discusses general commitments without addressing free vote or MP freedom.Therefore, we have been listening. We are going to move forward taking into account the things that we have heard so that we get to a system that encourages investment, but is also fairer for all Canadians as we move forward so that all Canadians in this generation and the next generation can be sure that they have opportunities that our tax system should provide.
  4. deflected
    TaxationMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Avoids the question of impact on businesses and personal hypocrisy.Our measures and everything we heard during our consultations will help us achieve that goal.
  5. deflected
    TaxationMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Focuses on positives heard without acknowledging lack of study or job loss claims.We heard that it is crucial for SMEs to continue to have the lowest tax rate in the G7.
  6. deflected
    TaxationMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.Provides stats on enforcement but does not address extending consultations.our government is fully committed to combatting tax evasion and aggressive tax avoidance
  7. deflected
    TaxationMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Reiterates focus on wealthy incorporating but avoids expanding consultations.What we are doing in our consultation process is really the continuation of a discussion that has been going on since we have been in office.
  8. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Catherine McKenna (Liberal). substantive question.Outlines specific actions taken to address climate change but does not directly confront the reported failure to meet targets.We are reducing emissions from coal-fired plants. We are putting a price on carbon pollution.
  9. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Catherine McKenna (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes their plan without addressing the specific 219 megatonne shortfall or image criticism.We have worked very hard with the provinces, territories, and indigenous peoples to come up with a real plan to reduce our emissions, eliminate carbon, and put a price on pollution for historic investments in public transit.
  10. partly answered
    TaxationLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses consultations but does not address extending them or the specific meeting refusals.We had the opportunity to understand what the issues were with the measures we were putting forward.
  11. deflected
    TaxationLisa Raitt (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the personal conflict claim and consultation extension by restating general fairness goals.We also know that doing it means we need to get it right.
  12. deflected
    EthicsMaxime Bernier (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the conflict of interest accusation and pivots to broad tax fairness principles.we know that it is very important to stay on track with our approach to a fairer tax system.
  13. deflected
    EthicsMaxime Bernier (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the recusal demand by reiterating benefits of a fair tax system without referencing the written commitment.We are going to move forward with our measures with the knowledge we have gained through our consultations.
  14. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the self-interest and trust fund claims, shifting to consultation principles.moving forward with tax changes, it is important to make sure we get it right.
  15. deflected
    EthicsMr. David Anderson (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer continues listing principles without engaging the interruption or prior ethics questions.Second, Mr. Speaker, we are going to make sure that farmers can continue to pass their farms on to the next generation.
  16. deflected
    EthicsMr. David Anderson (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer restates consultation benefits without addressing the ethics or self-exemption accusations.We have listened. We are going to get it right.
  17. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer refuses advice from the opposition and pivots to criticism instead of addressing the 9% tax rate promise.We will take no advice from the opposite side of the House.
  18. partly answered
    Canadian HeritageMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges concerns and discusses collaboration but does not commit to making the Netflix agreement public.We agreed to work together on a game plan for protecting our culture online.
  19. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Karine Trudel (NDP) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer praises the EI system in general but does not address bridging the spring gap for seasonal workers.Over the past few months, we have taken significant action to make the system far more flexible and more generous in its benefits and services
  20. deflected
    TaxationEd Fast (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses fairness and past legitimacy but avoids the specific claim about fixing rules for family fortunes.What people have done in the past will of course be protected.
  21. deflected
    TaxationMr. Joël Godin (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights economic growth and jobs but does not address backing off the tax reforms or supporting entrepreneurs.On that note, I would like to point out that, over the past year, we have had the highest level of growth in the past decade and that nearly 400,000 jobs have been created.
  22. deflected
    TaxationMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer emphasizes listening across the country but does not address the refusal of meetings by specific MPs.It is important for us to be across the country to hear Canadians.
  23. deflected
    TaxationMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates the consultation process and fairness goals but ignores the no-show at the town hall.We have heard many things that are important for us to consider, including unintended consequences in some cases that we will need to fix
  24. partly answered
    MarijuanaMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Ginette Petitpas Taylor (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains the need for time to regulate edibles safely but does not address pardons for possession convictions.Designing an appropriate regulatory system for cannabis edibles is a complex undertaking and there are unique potential risks and harms that need to be carefully understood before we undergo changes to the regulations.
  25. answered
    Ms. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the pardon issue by referencing ongoing consultations and planned legislation.in fact there have been extensive consultations under way over the last number of months with respect to reforming pardons.
  26. partly answered
    TaxationMr. Bob Saroya (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses listening to concerns but does not address extending the consultation period.I can assure members that we are going to listen to people like Jennifer so we get this right.
  27. partly answered
    TaxationMr. Tom Kmiec (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer clarifies the tax system goals but avoids any commitment on extending consultations.Listening to Canadians is an important part of that enabling us to get it right
  28. partly answered
    TaxationMrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes past listening but does not commit to extending the consultation period.Over the past 75 days, we have listened and we have heard many things.
  29. partly answered
    TaxationMr. David Anderson (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer claims they are listening but provides no response on extending consultations.We know that the tax system is complex and that we need to consider the perspectives of Mitchell and others across the country.
  30. answered
    Indigenous AffairsMs. Sheila Malcolmson (NDP) asked Carolyn Bennett (Liberal). substantive question.The answer explains the meeting composition and future inclusion plans for the group.The Prime Minister has agreed to meet with the Native Women's Association at least annually and they will be included in the meeting of the indigenous ministers later this year in November.
  31. answered
    Indigenous AffairsMr. Romeo Saganash (NDP) asked Carolyn Bennett (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the court challenges by stating they seek fairness without challenging claimants.We are not challenging individual claimants or their outcomes.
  32. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMr. Jamie Schmale (Conservative) asked Jim Carr (Liberal). substantive question.The answer restates existing rules without addressing the impact on jobs or realizing the delays.Then, as now, the rules are the same.
  33. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Jim Carr (Liberal). substantive question.Answer lists domestic pipeline jobs instead of addressing foreign import emissions tests.That is more jobs created by this government in the energy sector in less than two years than 10 years by the Harper administration.
  34. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Jim Carr (Liberal). substantive question.Answer repeats three pillars of development without addressing Venezuelan oil imports.Those are the three pillars of responsible development in Canada: job creation, environmental stewardship, and meaningful consultation with indigenous peoples.
  35. answered
    Canadian HeritageMr. David Sweet (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly confirms plaque removal and replacement to fix the omission.The plaque has been removed and will be replaced with language that reflects the horrors experienced by the Jewish people.
  36. partly answered
    Canada Revenue AgencyMr. Wayne Stetski (NDP) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.Answer states commitment to benefits access but offers no specific fix for CRA payment delays.In my mandate letter, I committed to facilitating access to services for the neediest and most vulnerable, seniors, and single-parent families.
  37. misdirected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Alupa Clarke (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.Answer attacks Conservatives' past record instead of addressing French-language content commitments.it is a little ironic to see my Conservative colleague rise in defence of culture when the Conservatives were the ones who cut millions of dollars from culture funding over the past 10 years.
  38. partly answered
    TaxationMr. Xavier Barsalou-Duval (Bloc) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer explains fairness goal but does not address the specific non-resident versus resident tax disparity.The goal of our measures is to create a fair system that does not encourage the wealthy to simply incorporate in order to pay less in taxes.
  39. partly answered
    Canadian Coast GuardMr. Michel Boudrias (Bloc) asked Mr. Terry Beech (Liberal). substantive question.Answer mentions an RFI for capacity but does not commit to the Davie icebreaker proposal.Also, in the interim, we have opened up an RFI to see if there are other ways we can complement our force.