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Tuesday, September 19, 2017 · sitting No. 201
Motor vehicle safety bill advances after second reading debate
Liberal MP Marc Garneau moved second reading of Bill S-2, the strengthening motor vehicle safety for Canadians act, which occupied 44 per cent of the sitting. The minister said the legislation would give Transport Canada new powers to negotiate consent agreements and enter administrative agreements rather than always proceeding to court. Conservative MP Kelly Block and NDP MP Robert Aubin questioned differences from earlier Bill C-62 and the Auditor General's findings on oversight.
Question period was dominated by exchanges on taxation between Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer and Finance Minister Bill Morneau. Scheer said the proposed changes would harm small businesses and young workers seeking first jobs. Morneau replied that the current system unfairly allows wealthy Canadians to incorporate and pay lower rates than the middle class.
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Who held the floor · 2017-09-19
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NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair asked whether the government would scrap the 40-year-old bilingualism bonus for civil servants, citing a Liberal report. Fisheries Minister Dominic LeBlanc said a bilingual public service is essential and promised consultations.
Read the exchangeMarijuana
NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair pressed Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale on border-entry rules for Canadians who have used cannabis and the absence of edible cannabis provisions in the government's bill. Goodale said each country sets its own rules and that regulatory work continues.
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Liberal MP Mark Holland delivered a tribute to the late Liberal MP Arnold Chan, reading from a letter Chan wrote about climate change, technology and social trends. Several members from other parties rose to associate themselves with the remarks.
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Conservative MP Tom Kmiec tabled a petition signed by 4,363 people concerning media censorship, imprisonment of opposition figures and violence against protesters in Venezuela. Green Party MP Elizabeth May presented petitions on the case of Saeed Malekpour in Iran and on passport requirements.
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Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux obtained consent to amend the membership of the procedure and house affairs committee, replacing members from St. Catharines and Perth—Wellington.
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- deflectedTaxationMr. Andrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reframes to tax fairness for the wealthy instead of addressing claimed harms like layoffs or reduced hours for employees.
We want a system where business people and SMEs have the opportunity to make active investments to improve our economy and where workers and Canada as a whole are better off.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Andrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to wealthy Canadians incorporating at lower rates rather than addressing risks to specific small business owners like Kevin and Michael.
I suspect that the member opposite is okay with wealthy Canadians paying a lower rate of tax than middle-class Canadians.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Andrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats the fairness claim about wealthy incorporators without explaining job creation for small local businesses.
What we want to have is a system that actually does encourage investment, and that is what we are going to have for those small businesses
- deflectedTaxationMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer focuses on wealthy tax advantages and mentions one call to Terry instead of addressing job losses for Quebec and Canadian family businesses.
Yesterday I received the phone number of a man named Terry, and I called him today to hear his perspective.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Alain Rayes (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates the problem of wealthy incorporation without addressing budget cuts to donations or potential job eliminations by small businesses.
It is very important to listen to be sure that we understand how our proposals will help small businesses continue to invest.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms support for bilingualism but does not state whether the government plans to scrap the bilingualism bonus.
We always believe that a bilingual public service better serves all Canadians.
- partly answeredOfficial LanguagesThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes that consultations have been and will be conducted but avoids a specific promise to consult before any decision on the bonus.
Extensive consultations have been and will be conducted on policy changes under consideration.
- answeredMarijuanaThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly explains the government's actions regarding U.S. border treatment of Canadians who have used marijuana.
We have raised that expectation with our American counterparts and they have every right to expect the same treatment in return.
- deflectedMarijuanaThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses general regulatory work but sidesteps the specific question on edibles and the black market.
That work is ongoing, including the full regulatory framework that will deal with cannabis in all of its forms.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates the tax fairness goal without addressing the contempt accusation or the Prime Minister's quote.
we have said and continue to say, that under our current system, there is a way to encourage the wealthiest to have a private company to get a lower tax rate than the middle class.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer repeats the incorporation incentive point and ignores the rainy-day savings and pension concerns.
we all know that our current system creates an incentive for the wealthiest Canadians to incorporate so they can pay less tax than middle-class Canadians.
- misdirectedTaxationMs. Rachael Harder (Conservative) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to gender equity and attacks the prior system instead of addressing the maternity leave impact on female entrepreneurs.
- misdirectedTaxationMrs. Cathy McLeod (Conservative) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to inherited rules and gender considerations rather than justifying the measures for small business owners like Paula.
Just because these rules are legal does not make them fair.
- misdirectedTaxationPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights positive economic numbers and avoids the fairness comparison between large and small businesses.
we are $11 billion better off than we said we would do in budget 2016.
- deflectedTaxationPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reiterates the wealthy incorporation issue without addressing the 55% versus 73% disparity raised.
what we know is that over the last 15 years, we have seen wealthy Canadians take advantage of the system that allows them to incorporate so they can pay lower tax rates than middle-class Canadians.
- partly answeredPrivacyMr. Matthew Dubé (NDP) asked Ralph Goodale (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges concerns and notes consultations but does not confirm a firm stance on Bill C-23 or device searches.
Obviously it is an area where we will have consultations and discussions with our American counterparts to ensure that the treatment of Canadians at the border is fair and professional, and consistent and respectful of the rights they have the right to.
- deflectedVeterans AffairsMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer offers only general veteran support without addressing the request for a mefloquine study.
The health and well-being of our veterans is our top priority.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). substantive question.The answer shifts to attacking the opposition's tax record and grain transport instead of addressing the consultation extension.
I can understand that my hon. colleague is from a party that fully encourages wealthy Canadians to form a tax system that means they do not pay the rate of tax that middle-class Canadians pay.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats the inherited-tax-system line and pivots to research spending without answering whether farmers are viewed as wealthy and privileged.
we inherited the tax system from the Harper government, which encouraged wealthy Canadians to incorporate to make sure they paid less taxes than the middle class.
- partly answeredTaxationMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states the intent to listen and gives an example of calling a farmer, while still avoiding a firm commitment on extending the deadline.
When I heard yesterday of a gentleman named Terry, I called him today.
- deflectedTaxationKevin Sorenson (Conservative) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition's tax stance and lists spending figures without addressing the impact on farm viability or the cash-cow framing.
I can understand that my hon. colleague is from a party that supports the ability of people to incorporate and pay less tax than the middle class.
- partly answeredForeign AffairsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Mr. Matt DeCourcey (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses nuclear disarmament goals but does not say whether Canada or Liberals will sign the treaty.
our goal is certainly nuclear disarmament and we are taking the necessary steps to achieve that goal.
- partly answeredImmigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Mr. Serge Cormier (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the review and provincial consultations but does not commit to scrapping the provision or ending the discrimination.
We are conducting a thorough review of the policy regarding excessive demand, including by consulting the provinces and territories
- deflectedTaxationMr. Bob Saroya (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer repeats the fairness narrative about wealthy incorporators and does not address when attacks on small business will stop.
we know that the party opposite was fine with tax advantages that encouraged the wealthy few to incorporate and get lower tax rates than middle-class Canadians.
- deflectedYouthMr. Alexander Nuttall (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Schiefke (Liberal). loaded question.The answer lists government investments without addressing the specific job loss claims or promise failures raised.
First and foremost, we doubled the number of summer jobs from 35,000 to roughly 70,000.
- partly answeredTaxationMr. Dan Albas (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer explains the tax rationale but ignores the question about the small business minister's role and business fears.
What we are putting forward are measures to make sure that we do not have a system that encourages the wealthiest to incorporate so they have a lower tax rate than the middle class.
- answeredTaxationMr. Dan Albas (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the request to meet chambers by citing recent and upcoming meetings with them.
I was pleased to speak to the St. John's Chamber of Commerce last week.
- partly answeredNatural ResourcesMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked Jim Carr (Liberal). substantive question.The answer references the Pipeline Safety Act but does not address the specific request for Enbridge to strengthen safety or share emergency plans.
It is one of the reasons we passed the Pipeline Safety Act, which introduced a whole new set of measures, talking about insurance liabilities and the necessity of timely clean-ups.
- partly answeredFisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses working with authorities and concerns but does not commit to transitioning farms to closed containment.
We are open to all options to ensure that this can be done.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Todd Doherty (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to general tax fairness without addressing impacts on fishermen's retirement savings.
They understand the importance of middle-class Canadians having the appropriate tax structure so they can continue to thrive and support their families.
- misdirectedTaxationMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Navdeep Bains (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to job creation examples instead of explaining the tax changes' effects on Atlantic small businesses and fishers.
That is why, since 2015, there have been more than 400,000 jobs created in the Canadian economy.
- deflectedTaxationMrs. Sylvie Boucher (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer restates the goal of fairness without addressing the deficit, holidays, or specific harms to entrepreneurship in Atlantic Canada.
Our current tax system encourages the wealthiest to incorporate so they can pay a lower tax rate than the middle class.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Blake Richards (Conservative) asked Bardish Chagger (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the tax question entirely and pivots to unrelated tourism statistics.
This year was Canada's 150th anniversary of Confederation.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. François Choquette (NDP) asked Mr. Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). substantive question.The answer references the relevant act and engagement with Quebec but does not confirm compliance with the notices.
Issues such as contaminated sites are addressed through the Canadian Environmental Protection Act.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Pat Kelly (Conservative) asked Bill Morneau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses fairness and listening but avoids the specific question on bureaucrats judging family income sharing.
We are going to listen to small business owners.
- answeredForeign AffairsMr. Xavier Barsalou-Duval (Bloc) asked Mr. Matt DeCourcey (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states that the matter is domestic to Spain and declines intervention.
The future of Catalonia is a Spanish domestic matter.
- deflectedCanadian HeritageMs. Monique Pauzé (Bloc) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights cultural investments and a future presentation but sidesteps the GST fairness question.
I invite my colleague to attend the presentation of our vision, which will take place on September 28.