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Wednesday, February 18, 2015 · sitting No. 174
Commons opens second reading debate on anti-terrorism bill
The House spent the largest share of its time on second reading of Bill C-51, the Anti-terrorism Act, 2015. Public Safety Minister Steven Blaney moved the bill and said the government was delivering on its commitment to protect Canadians from jihadist terrorists. New Democrat MP Randall Garrison asked whether the minister would ensure a full debate and committee hearings that would hear expert concerns about effectiveness and constitutionality. Conservative MP Roxanne James said information sharing between agencies was necessary because threats had evolved since the original CSIS Act was passed.
In Question Period, New Democrat Leader Thomas Mulcair pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on whether the bill's new definition of threats to security added anything to existing law. Harper replied that promoting terrorism should be a crime and that the bill would give CSIS authority to disrupt threats with judicial oversight. Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau asked Harper to call Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi personally to seek the return of journalist Mohamed Fahmy. Harper said the government had expressed its concerns at all levels and would continue to do so.
Liberal MP David McGuinty questioned why Treasury Board contracting rules were broken for an after-the-fact speech-writing contract awarded to Guy Giorno. Conservative MP Paul Calandra said all guidelines were expected to be followed and noted the Liberal Party still owed taxpayers $40 million.
Decided that day
- C-653 was introduced
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Who held the floor · 2015-02-18
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Other moments
Citizenship and Immigration
Conservative MP Jacques Gourde said most Canadians would find it offensive for people to hide their identity when taking the oath of citizenship. Liberal MP Chrystia Freeland said the immigration minister had wrongly referred to the niqab as a hijab in an email about the government's appeal of a court ruling.
Read the exchangeAboriginal Affairs
New Democrat MP Niki Ashton asked how two children could die in a house fire on the Makwa Sahgaiehcan First Nation when there was no fire response. Aboriginal Affairs Minister Bernard Valcourt said the member was trying to score cheap political points over the deaths of children.
Read the exchangeHousing
New Democrat MP Annick Papillon said the government's Housing First approach was causing chaos for 26 Quebec organizations because it imposed a one-size-fits-all strategy. Public Safety Minister Candice Bergen said the strategy allowed flexibility through community advisory boards while focusing on evidence-based solutions.
Read the exchangeTaxation
New Democrat MP Murray Rankin said the government was letting tax cheats off the hook after HSBC helped as many as 1,800 Canadians avoid taxes. Revenue Minister Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay said the CRA had conducted hundreds of audits on HSBC accounts and reassessed more than $21 million in taxes and penalties.
Read the exchangeCitizenship an Immigration
New Democrat MP Don Davies said Canadians should receive 10-year multiple-entry visas to China just as Americans do. Immigration Minister Chris Alexander said the government would continue to work with China to expand business and tourist travel.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedPublic SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates a general principle without providing the requested example.
This clarification of the law is just common sense.
- partly answeredPublic SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides some clarification on exclusions but avoids defining the specific term requested.
The bill is very clear. It lists a range of national security threats to Canada, but it also makes clear that any activity undermining security does not include lawful advocacy, protest, dissent or artistic infringements.
- deflectedPublic SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to a different aspect of the bill rather than giving the requested example of new economic interference.
under present authority, CSIS does not have the authorization to disrupt security threats that are in stage.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's positions instead of addressing the question about lumping dissent with terrorism.
This is, in fact, the attempt of the NDP to always say that anything that is in defence of our security somehow undermines our freedoms.
- deflectedPublic SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general support for the bill without providing any specific examples of new activities.
It only makes sense to ensure that all of our police forces and security agencies have the power to deal with security threats and terrorism and share information.
- answeredForeign AffairsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the concerns raised about the case and ongoing actions taken.
We have expressed those concerns to the government of Egypt at all levels and we will continue to do so until we get a resolution of this that is satisfactory.
- misdirectedHealthMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer corrects a prior claim and promotes existing actions instead of addressing the call for a new education campaign.
there has been no reduction whatsoever.
- answeredJusticeMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer commits to examining the decision and holding consultations as requested.
We will examine this decision and hold broad consultations on all aspects of this difficult issue.
- partly answeredPublic SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer challenges premise and criticizes NDP reading of bill instead of directly addressing the 'why' accusation.
Unfortunately, the NDP does not seem to have gone to the trouble of reading past page 3 of the bill.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP position and restates bill benefits without addressing refusal to include oversight or anti-radicalization.
the New Democrats are blowing things out of proportion, which comes as no surprise to anyone because they never support measures to protect Canadians from the terrorist threat.
- partly answeredPublic SafetyMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains need for bill and opens debate but does not commit to avoiding railroading or full debate length.
I am more than happy to open the debate right after question period so we can debate this issue and get the bill through so we can protect Canadians.
- misdirectedPublic SafetyMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP past votes instead of committing to committee changes or listening to experts.
It is not surprising that they oppose this common-sense and reasonable bill, because they seem to be ideologically opposed to any measure that would protect Canadians.
- deflectedEmploymentMs. Anne Minh-Thu Quach (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer discusses general job creation and G7 numbers but ignores specific SME crisis and plan for middle class.
Today we have the best employment numbers out of all G7 countries.
- misdirectedEmploymentMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP tax plan and distracts to EI processing instead of addressing manufacturing job losses in region.
the only plan the NDP has is to raise job-killing taxes on workers and the businesses that employ them.
- deflectedEmploymentMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer quotes critic of NDP and attacks their tax stance without addressing unemployment rise or manufacturing support.
Jason Myers, the president of the Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters, says the NDP plan is, to put it bluntly, a joke.
- answeredTaxationMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly details CRA audits, HSBC actions and amounts recovered on tax evasion.
Regarding HSBC, the CRA has conducted hundreds of audits, leading to over $21 million in taxes and penalties being reassessed.
- answeredTaxationMr. Pierre Dionne Labelle (NDP) asked Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly details CRA audits and voluntary disclosures tied to HSBC tax evasion.
As I have stated with respect to the HSBC accounts, when non-compliance was expected, the CRA conducted hundreds of audits.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking Liberals over unrelated funds instead of addressing the contracting violation.
Now that there is a new member over there, I wonder if she might help them search for that $40 million, maybe give them a bit of a leg up.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to criticizing the Liberal leader's past contracts and touting government achievements rather than addressing the speech contract.
When it comes to giving speeches and being paid for those speeches, I suggest that the member actually ask the leader who sits in front of him, who we know accepted huge contracts, while being a member of Parliament, to speak at places like school boards, unions, and churches.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mocks the request for the speech and pivots to unrelated policy topics while attacking the opposition.
It is 2:45. We are a number of months ahead of an election, and the best the Liberals have is they want to see a copy of a great speech, apparently, that the Minister of Natural Resources gave.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accuses the asker of scoring political points over child deaths instead of explaining the lack of fire services.
For that member and that party to try to score cheap political points over the death of children on a reserve is just unacceptable.
- answeredAboriginal AffairsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains federal funding for fire protection and first nations management of services.
The fact of the matter is that we provide funding to first nations to support operations and maintenance, fire protection infrastructure, and fire protection training on reserve.
- answeredHousingMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the Housing First strategy as evidence-based and notes local flexibility in Quebec.
We know that the NDP members are opposed to evidence-based solutions.
- answeredHousingMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the strategy's focus on Housing First with regional flexibility via community advisory boards.
Yes, we are focusing on Housing First, and yes, we are allowing flexibility.
- deflectedCitizenship an ImmigrationMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Chris Alexander (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights existing visa policies without addressing support for the motion or reciprocity.
yes, we will continue to work with the Chinese to ensure that more tourists come, that business expands, and that business people have every opportunity to grow a vital trade and investment relationship.
- misdirectedCitizenship an ImmigrationMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Chris Alexander (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's voting record instead of addressing the visa reciprocity request.
This is just more NDP hypocrisy.
- deflectedTaxationMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer praises the RDSP without addressing double taxation or amending the tax treaty.
We are absolutely very proud of our registered disability savings plan.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Mike Sullivan (NDP) asked Kevin Sorenson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general tax relief without addressing the specific double-taxation issue for RDSPs.
we are delivering historic tax relief, leaving money in all Canadians' pockets.
- deflectedHousingMr. Adam Vaughan (Liberal) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer points to existing homelessness funding without committing new money for housing.
we were very pleased to be in the city of Toronto with the Minister of Finance and the mayor of Toronto to announce $86 million for our homelessness partners.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Chrystia Freeland (Liberal) asked Chris Alexander (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the policy on face coverings without correcting the factual error or addressing the courtesy question.
Those practices have no place in our citizenship ceremonies, where we insist on confirming the identity and confirming the commitment of new citizens to our laws, to our sovereign, to our values, and to our traditions.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer asserts overall toughness on sanctions without explaining why specific individuals were omitted.
Nobody is tougher on Putin and those associated with him than this government in its support for Ukraine.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP instead of addressing why the named individuals are not sanctioned.
Why does the NDP not get behind that, just for a change, just to mix it up?
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Shelly Glover (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states personal accounts are exempt without addressing why unilingual public-service messages are sent from them.
However, these are personal Twitter accounts that we are talking about, and they are not subject to the Official Languages Act.
- deflectedCanada PostMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses the five-point plan and ongoing consultations but ignores the specific complaints about mailbox conditions and the call to reverse the decision.
I know that consultations are ongoing and I encourage Canada Post to continue on with that process.
- answeredHealthMr. Raymond Côté (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly lists concrete measures the Port of Quebec has taken to address dust emissions and health concerns.
a full review of the company's operation, installation of sensors in sensitive areas to ensure monitoring of dust emissions, fully operational sprinkler systems in transmission, and washing stations in order to ensure that vehicles returning are free of dust.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates the general security-freedom position and invites support without engaging the Globe and Mail editorial or the talking-point accusation.
Canadians understand that their freedom and security go hand in hand.