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Wednesday, November 27, 2013 · sitting No. 25
Commons debates online crime bill after ethics questions fill question period
The House spent the largest share of its time on second reading of Bill C-13, the Protecting Canadians from Online Crime Act. Justice Minister Peter MacKay told members the bill addresses cyberbullying and gives investigators new tools for electronic evidence. NDP justice critic Françoise Boivin and Liberal MP Sean Casey questioned the breadth of the search provisions and the absence of judicial oversight in some clauses.
Question period opened with repeated exchanges on the Duffy affair. NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair asked whether the Prime Minister had approved a script prepared by his office and Nigel Wright. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the issue was always one of improper expense claims, not residency, and that Mr. Duffy had been removed from caucus once the facts were known.
Decided that day
- C-501 advanced at second reading
- C-555 introduced
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Who held the floor · 2013-11-27
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Other moments
Taxation
NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair asked why Jim Love, appointed chair of the Royal Canadian Mint by the Conservatives, had not been fired after reports he advised clients on tax avoidance schemes. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the matter was before the courts and pointed to $4.5 billion in offshore funds identified by the Canada Revenue Agency since 2006.
Read the exchangeFood Safety
NDP MP Malcolm Allen said the Auditor General found the Canadian Food Inspection Agency still uses a 2004 draft emergency plan. Health Minister Rona Ambrose replied that the Auditor General confirmed unsafe food is removed quickly and that work on a final plan is already under way.
Read the exchangeRail Transportation
NDP MP Hoang Mai cited the Auditor General’s findings of too few inspectors and weak risk-based planning. Transport Minister Lisa Raitt said the government has spent more than $100 million on rail safety, increased inspections to a record 30,000 last year, and will implement the recommendations.
Read the exchangeHousing
NDP MP Mike Sullivan warned that up to $1.7 billion in annual social-housing funding will end when long-term agreements expire. Minister of State Candice Bergen said the government has renewed its investment and is helping more than 880,000 individuals and families.
Read the exchangeBy-elections
Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux said the results in Provencher and Brandon—Souris showed a strong red resurgence in Manitoba. He credited the work of candidates Terry Hayward and Rolf Dinsdale.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates a general position on residences and expenses without addressing the yes/no question on awareness of the deal provision.
Obviously there are members and senators who have more than one residence.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the same general position on expenses without engaging the claim of following a script or cover-up deal.
The issue was that one could not legitimately claim travel expenses when in fact one was at a long-term residence.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the Prime Minister's view on expenses but does not confirm or deny agreeing to the specific statement during the hour in question.
I said to Mr. Duffy very clearly that this was not a question of residence; this was a question of him claiming expenses that he did not actually incur.
- misdirectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer refers the asker to a document and shifts focus to actions taken against Wright and Duffy rather than clarifying what was approved.
Mr. Wright was very clear that Mr. Duffy was going to repay his own expenses.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the repayment issue but does not explain why the Prime Minister continued stating Wright acted alone after learning about party payment of legal fees.
When I learned this, we took action.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to Wright and Duffy being under investigation instead of addressing why Gerstein retains the Prime Minister's confidence.
Obviously, that information was not properly disclosed to me or to others.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again emphasizes the two individuals under investigation without explaining continued confidence in Gerstein.
The RCMP is clear that there are two individuals who are under investigation, Mr. Duffy and Mr. Wright.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the investigation of Wright and Duffy but does not address why Gerstein is still defended or retains confidence.
it is clear that two individuals are under investigation in relation to the fact that Mr. Duffy claimed that he repaid expenses, but did not.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper shifts to attacking NDP and restating party responsibility without addressing the ethics standard or cheque comparison.
Unlike the leader of the NDP, we do not slander a whole bunch of other people, and we do not forget for 17 years—
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper cites RCMP but pivots to accusing Mulcair of dishonesty instead of confirming his own knowledge of the deal.
If the leader of the NDP had any honesty, he would accept that judgment.
- misdirectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper attacks Mulcair on unrelated NDP payments rather than explaining why Gerstein remains in caucus.
the leader of the NDP would be an expert in that, having received six figures worth of payments from his political party.
- partly answeredEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.Harper explains the repayment issue but ignores the principle-versus-price framing.
what was inappropriate here was that Mr. Duffy claimed to have repaid inappropriate expenses when he had not done so.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper restates actions taken against Wright and Duffy without addressing why others remain employed.
Mr. Wright was responsible for this. He is no longer in our employment.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper repeats the RCMP conclusion on his involvement but does not specify what he knew about Wright's assistance.
RCMP investigators concluded, after spending months looking at this, that they are not aware of any evidence that the Prime Minister was involved in the repayment or reimbursement of money to Senator Duffy or his lawyer.
- deflectedEthicsThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Harper returns to Duffy and Wright responsibility without addressing Stewart Olsen's alleged false statements or her continued presence.
As those two individuals did not properly disclose that information, they are the ones responsible.
- deflectedTaxationThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper refuses to comment on the specific case and pivots to general government record on tax evasion.
what the hon. member is referring to is, of course, a dispute between two private parties before a court. I am obviously not going to comment on that.
- deflectedTaxationThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to government achievements on tax evasion instead of addressing the appointment.
as I just said, under this government, the Canada Revenue Agency has identified over $4.5 billion recoverable to the taxpayers of Canada.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Redirects focus to Duffy and Wright rather than addressing Gerstein's actions.
I simply point out what the real issue here is. The real issue is that Senator Duffy made inappropriate expense claims
- deflectedEthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Reiterates lack of prior knowledge and cooperation without addressing ongoing support for Gerstein.
once again, not only have I said that I did not know about this particular transaction, but as soon as I became aware, we made sure that it was reported publicly.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Justin Trudeau (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Directly accuses the questioner of making false statements instead of explaining.
the Liberal Party leader's statements are false. The RCMP did not say that.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). substantive question.Dismisses as private dispute and pivots to general record instead of answering about awareness or investigation.
as has been already stated, the case reported in the media is a dispute between two private parties.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). loaded question.Denies the premise and highlights achievements without addressing specific actions on the individual.
the suggestion that we are resisting any efforts to combat tax evasion, of course, is categorically false.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Rejects the claim and lists unrelated achievements in foreign policy.
nothing could be further from the truth. Our government stands up for Canadian values, and our government stands up for Canadian interests
- deflectedForeign AffairsMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Shifts to general principles and economic focus without addressing the takeover by trade interests.
our government takes a principled foreign policy. Whenever we address foreign policy priorities, we are never afraid to do so, even when we do it alone.
- partly answeredFood SafetyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies premise but addresses the emergency plan recommendation.
In terms of the management plan, that is one of the recommendations.
- deflectedFood SafetyMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates general AG praise and avoids specific funding allocation question.
what the Auditor General said is that the food recall system effectively removes unsafe food from the marketplace
- partly answeredRail TransportationMr. Hoang Mai (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.Answer mentions directives and investment but does not detail immediate practical measures for inspector shortages or risk assessment.
We have issued emergency directives and protective directives as well.
- deflectedRail TransportationMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). loaded question.Answer highlights spending and inspections while ignoring the seven-year delay on 2006 issues.
we have invested in rail safety in this government: over $100 million.
- misdirectedInfrastructureJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the premise instead of addressing lack of program details for municipalities.
the premise of that question is completely false.
- misdirectedEmployment InsuranceWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses the question as demagoguery and attacks the asker rather than addressing out-migration or EI policy.
that demagoguery was complete unadulterated nonsense.
- deflectedHousingMr. Mike Sullivan (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.Answer emphasizes past investments but avoids the question of expiring long-term agreements and lost funding.
this government has invested more in affordable housing than any other government.
- deflectedHousingMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites prior funding and programs but does not commit to renewing operating agreements or long-term funding.
We have renewed our investment in affordable housing; we provided $2 billion in previous investments for social housing
- partly answeredGovernment AdvertisingGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer justifies the nomenclature via precedent but does not address the commitment to stop or the policy-violation claim.
A simple check of online archives shows that the terms "Chrétien government", "Martin government", and similar variations appear in official government communications by various governments.
- answeredGovernment AccountabilityMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly denies the premise of refusal and explains acceptance of recommendations.
The Treasury Board Secretariat and all departments that have been audited have accepted all of the Auditor General's recommendations.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's campaign instead of addressing whether the government will consider the Quebec commission's recommendations.
The NDP waged a campaign of fear regarding the modest changes that we made to the employment insurance program.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses the preferred treaty approach but does not address attendance at the specific summit.
On the matter of international climate change, obviously we continue to favour an international treaty that would have binding obligations upon all emitters.