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Monday, May 6, 2013 · sitting No. 247
Commons debates budget bill as opposition questions missing funds
The House spent the largest share of the sitting on debate of Bill C-60, the Economic Action Plan 2013 Act, No. 1. Conservative MP Dave Van Kesteren said the bill continues tax reductions begun in 2006 and prepares for longer lifespans by raising the retirement age from 65 to 67. NDP MP Robert Aubin called the measure a third omnibus bill that mixes a few acceptable provisions with many unwelcome changes.
In Question Period, NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair pressed Treasury Board President Jason Kenney on the Auditor General's finding that $3.1 billion could not be traced. Kenney replied that the Auditor General found no evidence the money had been spent improperly and that all expenditures appear in the public accounts.
Liberal MP Ralph Goodale said the budget raises taxes on middle-class Canadians by nearly $2 billion a year through changes to the dividend tax credit and payroll taxes. Kenney answered that the government has delivered more than $200 billion in tax relief and lowered the overall federal tax burden to its lowest share of GDP since 1965.
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Who held the floor · 2013-05-06
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Labour
NDP MP Alexandre Boulerice said Bill C-60 lets Treasury Board interfere in collective bargaining at crown corporations. Treasury Board President Tony Clement replied that the government must ensure costs remain sustainable and noted the NDP supported similar measures in Quebec.
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NDP MP Christine Moore asked when 45-year-old search and rescue planes would be replaced. Parliamentary Secretary Chris Alexander said the government treats replacement as a priority and is committed to an open procurement process.
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NDP MP Philip Toone said closure of the Percé wharf harms tourism and fishing jobs. Fisheries and Oceans Parliamentary Secretary Randy Kamp said engineers are conducting a structural review and safety remains the department's first concern.
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Liberal MP Bob Rae asked what Canada is prepared to do about possible chemical weapons use in Syria. Parliamentary Secretary Deepak Obhrai said Canada is concerned about radical jihadists and will not recognize the opposition until it shows broad support.
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- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends spending propriety but ignores the request for steps taken to locate the funds.
as usual, the question from the hon. Leader of the Opposition is off base.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates that funds are accounted for without addressing the missing summary reporting or transparency gap.
This matter relates to the categorization of expenses by Treasury Board between 2001 and 2009.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats prior defense and insults the asker rather than explaining the unavailable information on the $3.1 billion difference.
Perhaps the member needs a remedial course in public accounting.
- misdirectedLabourThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Question builds on a partisan comparison and shifts to CBC pay; answer attacks NDP unions and past Quebec record instead of addressing Treasury Board role.
I note that the Leader of the Opposition 's position was different when he was a member of a Quebec government
- deflectedLabourThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer accuses hypocrisy and quotes old bill but does not clarify current federal role at negotiating tables versus arm's-length status.
- misdirectedTaxationRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes tax hikes target middle class; answer pivots to overall relief and attacks Liberal EI ideas without addressing specific budget measures cited.
our economic policy does the opposite, which is why through some $200 billion in tax relief
- deflectedTaxationRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer cites overall tax burden drop but evades middle-class income stagnation and new tariff taxes by attacking GST reversal.
Why does the member not just 'fess up? We know the Liberals want to raise the GST back from 5% to 6% to 7%.
- deflectedTaxationMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats cumulative relief figure and accuses Liberals of wanting tax hikes without addressing the listed tariff increases on daily goods.
The Liberals, however, want to raise taxes, including the GST.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer quotes the Auditor General on general findings but avoids explaining the specific security expert expenditure asked about.
We didn't find anything that gave us cause for concern that the money...was used in any way that it should not have been.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the same Auditor General quote and process explanation without addressing when the information will be made public.
We didn't find anything that gave us cause for concern that money was used in any way it should not have been.
- deflectedGovernment ExpendituresMs. Lysane Blanchette-Lamothe (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer points to public accounts and estimates but does not specify which scenario explains the discrepancy or confirm the existence of detailed paperwork.
the answers to the hon. member's questions are found in the public accounts and the estimates in the years 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.
- deflectedGovernment AdvertisingMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends advertising in general without addressing the internal poll on effectiveness or the decision to continue until 2016.
advertising is an essential means for informing Canadians about important issues, such as temporary stimulus measures, tax credits and public health issues.
- misdirectedGovernment AdvertisingMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to attacking the Liberal Party's past actions instead of addressing the current advertising spending or poll results.
I find it curious that the hon. member would raise these issues since, when the Liberal Party wanted to do advertising, it took illegal funds from the public sector and other unions.
- partly answeredSearch and RescueMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Mr. Chris Alexander (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the priority and commits to an open process but provides no specific timeline for replacement.
We are committed to an open and transparent process to replace our aging Buffalo and Hercules aircraft fleets.
- misdirectedSearch and RescueMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Chris Alexander (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists initiatives but ends by attacking the opposition's voting record instead of explaining the delays or unavailability of aircraft.
The real question is, why has the opposition, the NDP in particular, voted against every single equipment procurement for the Canadian Forces over the past seven years?
- misdirectedFreedom of the PressMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Chris Alexander (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the term used and criticizes CBC coverage rather than addressing whether the remark reflects the government's view or offering an apology.
as the member opposite well knows, there has not been any objection to that term being used in the case of the journalist in question so far from him, and he can probably see why.
- misdirectedPrivacyMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the asker personally instead of addressing the data breach commitment.
When I was in his riding, announcing federal funds for excellent projects in Timmins, he was gushing with his praise for me and our government.
- misdirectedSeniorsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Alice Wong (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists programs then pivots to attacking the Liberal leader's voting record.
The Liberal leader seems to want to talk about seniors, as opposed to acting on their behalf.
- answeredTaxationMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains the policy change and confirms credit unions retain the small-business rate.
credit unions still have access to the lower small-business tax rate.
- answeredTaxationScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Answer clarifies the GST exemption rule and distinguishes non-health services.
health care services, including health care services relating to mental illness, have always been exempt from GST, and they will continue to be exempt from GST.
- misdirectedLabourMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains responsibility then attacks the NDP leader's provincial record.
The hon. member is shaking his head, but the facts are on the table.
- answeredLabourMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states the government's position on taxpayer responsibility and bargaining limits.
We are not going to allow them to have a situation where they have collective bargaining, which is over and above what is fair and reasonable for the taxpayers to pay.
- partly answeredIntergovernmental RelationsMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer addresses the education jurisdiction point after an unrelated apology.
We will not be interfering in the provincial jurisdiction.
- misdirectedIntergovernmental RelationsMr. Andrew Cash (NDP) asked Mr. Paul Calandra (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer attacks NDP actions on 1812 funding instead of addressing heritage teaching policy.
They stopped writing letters to our Minister of Human Resources and Skills Development for temporary foreign workers long enough to ask us to send money so that they could celebrate 1812 events in their ridings.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains rationale for EI changes but sidesteps specific regional impacts raised.
the reality is that the old employment insurance system had obstacles that kept unemployed people from working full-time if they were receiving benefits.
- answeredTourism IndustryMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses the wharf closure by citing safety inspection and next steps.
a recent inspection by the department found the wharf to be unsafe.
- deflectedFisheries and OceansMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists publication stats instead of addressing the muzzling or gag order claim.
DFO issues more than 300 publications each year documenting our research on Canada's fisheries.
- partly answeredIntergovernmental RelationsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). loaded question.Answer notes panel review and meetings but does not commit to payment timeline.
we have asked for the opinion of the dispute advisory panel on this matter.
- deflectedForeign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to opposition support and jihadist concerns rather than planned actions on chemical weapons.
Canada is concerned with the involvement of radical jihadists in the Syrian opposition groups and with evidence that they and the Assad regime are receiving outside assistance.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the premise and lists unrelated spending while avoiding the specific $1 million question.
contrary to what the member is saying, let me say very clearly that our government is providing real leadership on this issue.
- misdirectedGovernment ExpendituresMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer accuses the asker of word games and blames prior NDP questions instead of locating the funds.
If the hon. member wants to play word games, he can do so, but the facts are there for parliamentarians.
- deflectedPensionsMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to criticizing NDP vote record rather than addressing public pension improvements.
I might remind the hon. member that the NDP actually voted against a new pension plan that is now being accepted across the country, province by province.
- deflectedTelecommunicationsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer pushes stats instead of addressing the call to talk to Canadians.
I invite my colleague indeed to get into reality.
- partly answeredTransport CanadaMrs. Carol Hughes (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Answer corrects premise and states collaboration is underway but does not commit to expediting.
Transport Canada has received a proposal from the province, and both governments are collaborating to ensure that work can begin as quickly as possible.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Élaine Michaud (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains policy intent but offers no solution for seasonal industries or abuses.
If the hon. member wants to discuss a particular case, I encourage her to come talk to me so that we can resolve it.
- partly answeredFisheries and OceansMr. Jean-François Fortin (Bloc) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes safety review but provides no plan or timeline for maintenance.
engineers are on site today, and they are conducting a thorough structural review.
- answeredGovernment ExpendituresMrs. Maria Mourani (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly states funds are accounted for in public documents.
All of the funds in question are accounted for in public documents presented to Parliament, as I have already said, including the public accounts.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderBob Rae (Liberal) asked Mr. Chris Alexander (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer avoids the request and instead mocks the asker and another member.
Moreover, I would always take second place to the member for St. John's East when it comes to deciding who and who is not a Trotskyite.