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Wednesday, December 12, 2012 · sitting No. 197

Commons advances RCMP accountability bill at report stage after lengthy debate

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on the report stage of Bill C-42, the Enhancing Royal Canadian Mounted Police Accountability Act. NDP MP Randall Garrison moved two amendments to delete clauses 1 and 22, arguing that the bill lacked sufficient measures to establish a national civilian investigation body as recommended by past inquiries. Conservative MP Candice Bergen defended the legislation as addressing core challenges identified through consultation with active police officers in the government caucus.

Question period featured sharp exchanges over the Nexen sale and the F-35 procurement. NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair pressed the government to amend the Investment Canada Act for greater transparency and a clearer net-benefit test, while Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the decision maintained flexibility to protect Canadian interests. Mulcair also challenged the handling of F-35 costs and the absence of a competitive tender process.

Other proceedings included the tabling of multiple committee reports on pre-budget consultations and labour shortages, as well as petitions on prostitution, shark fins and fisheries services.

Decided that day

  • Bill C-377 passed third reading
  • Bill C-42 passed third reading
  • One amendment to Bill C-377 adopted
  • Motion on 2006 budget success adopted
  • Bill C-15 referred to committee after second reading

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Who held the floor · 2012-12-12

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 41%, opposition 59% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment businessRoutine proceedings▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:0018:0019:00Last speech 20:35Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 6 h 30 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
61Bills creep forward while answers dodgeThe House spent nearly half its time on petitions and committee reports yet still advanced several bills through key stages and held multiple recorded votes. Question Period produced almost no direct answers, leaving the day half legislative and half procedural.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Veterans Affairs

Conservative MP Erin O'Toole asked about efforts to encourage businesses to hire veterans, and Parliamentary Secretary Eve Adams announced that CN Rail would create 2,000 positions targeted at former service members.

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Human Resources and Skills Development

NDP MP Chris Charlton criticized longer wait times and office closures, while Minister Diane Finley said automation had raised online registration to 99 per cent and would deliver faster service.

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Employment Insurance

Liberal MP Mark Eyking said Cape Breton fishers were being treated as criminals after seasonal claims were denied, and Minister Diane Finley replied that the Canada Revenue Agency was upholding eligibility rules.

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Citizenship and Immigration

NDP MP Tyrone Benskin said closures in Buffalo, Tokyo and Dhaka had lengthened wait times, but Minister Jason Kenney said processing for permanent residence had been reduced from seven or eight years to one or two.

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Public Works and Government Services

Liberal MP John McCallum asked whether Downsview Park would be sold after amalgamation with the Canada Lands Company, and Minister Rona Ambrose confirmed the park would remain public.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses market clarifications and flexibility instead of addressing legislative amendments.our announcement last Friday included plenty of clarifications for the markets, and the markets responded appropriately.
  2. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition's positions and shifts to unrelated NDP policies rather than addressing the question.The Gong Show over there continues.
  3. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accuses the asker of inconsistency and pivots to praising government policy instead of explaining the Nexen approval.The Leader of the Opposition started off his questioning today by saying that we were somehow blocking necessary foreign investment and now has concluded by saying we should shut it all down.
  4. partly answered
    National DefenceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses the F-35 process and upcoming report but ignores the call to admit misleading Canadians.Obviously, that will be released shortly.
  5. deflected
    National DefenceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer reiterates commitment to aircraft and industry benefits without addressing the competitive process or past mistakes.We are committed to helping our industry.
  6. misdirected
    National DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer disputes the premise and pivots to sarcasm about corruption without funds spent instead of addressing responsibility.if there is any corruption here, this would be the first time corruption has occurred without any funds actually being spent.
  7. deflected
    National DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats that information was provided and ignores the accusation of misleading Parliament.The government has provided the information at its disposal to the people of Canada.
  8. deflected
    National DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer disputes the Auditor General's findings and restates that information was shared without addressing the core question on Parliament receiving it.the Auditor General did not say that.
  9. partly answered
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.Mentions options analysis but avoids committing to a new statement of requirements or tendering process.its ongoing work will be to do a full options analysis to ensure that we get the right plane at the right cost for the Royal Canadian Air Force.
  10. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Describes the pre-acquisition phase and options analysis without addressing the timeline for an open competition.we are in a pre-acquisition phase. We have hit restart on this process, and we are doing a full options analysis.
  11. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Refers only to the secretariat's work without naming any alternative aircraft.It will be the one undertaking the full options analysis, and its work will be made public.
  12. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.States that all options will be analyzed but does not confirm consideration of the Gripen specifically.It will undertake the cost and capability analysis of all the fighter aircraft options that are out there to replace the CF-18s.
  13. partly answered
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.States that all options will be analyzed but does not confirm consideration of the Rafale specifically.I am sure that when it does the full options analysis in looking at the costs and capabilities of all of the aircraft available to replace the CF-18, it will call on the necessary expertise when needed.
  14. partly answered
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.States that all options will be analyzed but does not confirm consideration of the Eurofighter specifically.The National Fighter Procurement Secretariat is doing the due diligence necessary to ensure that a full options analysis will be undertaken.
  15. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.States that all options will be analyzed but does not confirm consideration of the Super Hornet and ends with a sarcastic suggestion.Perhaps the member could give it some advice.
  16. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Defends the minister and notes no money was misspent instead of addressing the request for an apology.there has been no one in the House who has stood by and stood up for our Canadian armed forces more than the present Minister of National Defence .
  17. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains reset process but ignores the demand to stand by or apologize for the claim.as soon as the Auditor General's report was tabled and he raised concerns, we immediately took action to reset this process.
  18. deflected
    National DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends the minister and restates reset but does not address apology or resignation demand.The Minister of National Defence has done an outstanding job and we are all very proud of him.
  19. deflected
    National DefenceDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats reset and no misspent funds but avoids any response to firing the minister.We have pressed reset on this process.
  20. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to historical Liberal MOU instead of addressing firing or competition demand.I would remind the hon. member that it was actually the Liberal government in 1997 that signed the MOU to be a member of the JSF—
  21. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP position rather than defining exceptional circumstances or net benefit.it is funny to see how confused the NDP is about its own position.
  22. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP ideology on oil sands instead of addressing the specific takeover criticism.the ideological opposition of the NDP to foreign investment is well-known and often expressed here by the critic of that party.
  23. deflected
    The EnvironmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer gives holiday wish and restates general policy without engaging the debt or economy critique.at this time of merry Christmas, I wish serenity now to all members of the House.
  24. answered
    Foreign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states limits on foreign government ownership and discretion under Investment Canada Act.In the oil sands or in other areas of the Canadian economy, we will not permit foreign governments to own a substantial portion of our resources.
  25. deflected
    Human Resources and Skills DevelopmentMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes general EI improvements and attacks the NDP instead of addressing specific service failures or timelines.It is a shame that the NDP is not supporting us in those efforts to help Canadians get back to work.
  26. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the Montreal office change for efficiency but ignores the partisan closure pattern and vote-buying accusation.In Montreal, there used to be two Service Canada offices within one block of each other, which was not efficient.
  27. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends online claims and notes 600 offices but does not address Internet access gaps or Quebec-specific issues.It is very important to acknowledge that there are still more than 600 Service Canada offices across the country, and unemployed workers can obtain services there.
  28. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMr. Tyrone Benskin (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer claims faster processing overall but does not address the specific office closures or added wait times mentioned.When our government came to power six years ago, it took seven or eight years for applications for permanent residence to be processed, whereas now it takes only one or two years.
  29. misdirected
    Government AdvertisingScott Brison (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to unrelated economic boasts and attacks Liberals instead of addressing the advertising budget increase.The Liberals simply do not have an economic plan.
  30. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMark Eyking (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends upholding EI rules and CRA investigations but does not address restoring funds or ending the review of fishers.we have an obligation to Canadians to uphold the laws of this land, including the laws that govern employment insurance.
  31. misdirected
    Air TransportationMr. José Nunez-Melo (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mocks the NDP on snowstorms and questions their competence instead of addressing passenger compensation.However, I have a hard time believing that the NDP member knows how to manage everything that has to do with air transportation in Canada.
  32. misdirected
    SportMr. Matthew Dubé (NDP) asked Ms. Joan Crockatt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the athlete funding question entirely and pivots to an unrelated rail freight bill announcement.yesterday our government delivered on one of its commitments and tabled the fair rail freight service bill.
  33. partly answered
    Public Works and Government ServicesJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer confirms no sale but ignores the loaded premise about financial incompetence.
  34. misdirected
    Science and TechnologyMr. Dany Morin (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition instead of addressing the budget cut question.no party has ever voted no to science and research as often as the member and his party.
  35. partly answered
    PensionsMr. Raymond Côté (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses pensioner protections but does not address timing or priority for bankruptcies.we have actually brought pensioners up above where they were under a prior government.
  36. partly answered
    LabourMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.Answer confirms a future meeting but avoids any commitment on deferring the bill.I will be speaking with and meeting with her in the new year on a whole bunch of different matters.