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Tuesday, December 11, 2012 · sitting No. 196
Military justice overhaul debated amid NDP concerns over summary trials
The House spent the largest share of its time on second reading of Bill C-15, the Strengthening Military Justice in the Defence of Canada Act. NDP MP Craig Scott said only 28 of 88 recommendations from the 2003 Lamer report had been implemented and warned that summary trials continue to produce criminal records without counsel or appeal rights. Conservative and Liberal members acknowledged the need for modernization but differed on whether the bill should proceed to committee unchanged.
In Question Period the NDP leader pressed the Prime Minister on the Nexen takeover and the F-35 procurement. Thomas Mulcair said the government had reversed itself on whether the Nexen deal met the net-benefit test and demanded a competitive tender for fighter aircraft. Stephen Harper replied that the Nexen transaction had been accepted but future foreign state-owned purchases in the oil sands would not be approved, and that a seven-point plan would address F-35 concerns raised by the Auditor General.
Decided that day
- C-51 introduced
- C-44 sent to second chamber
- C-52 introduced
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Who held the floor · 2012-12-11
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Petitions
Liberal MP Ralph Goodale tabled petitions from Saskatchewan residents opposing Bill C-45 provisions affecting first nations and calling for restored funding at the Motherwell Homestead National Historic Site, while NDP MP Irene Mathyssen presented petitions urging reversal of the old-age-security eligibility change.
Read the exchangeIncreasing Offenders' Accountability for Victims Act
Green Party MP Elizabeth May moved to delete clause 3 of Bill C-37 and argued the mandatory surcharge could recriminalize low-income offenders unable to pay, removing judicial discretion on undue hardship.
Read the exchangeEmployment Insurance
NDP MP Anne-Marie Day asked why the government was closing Service Canada offices while telling claimants to file claims in person, and Human Resources Minister Diane Finley replied that reforms aim to connect workers with available jobs in their regions.
Read the exchangeIncome Tax Act
NDP MP Malcolm Allen defended union financial reporting practices from his own experience as a local officer and said the Rand formula was enacted by legislatures, not invented by unions.
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- answeredForeign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly claims the requested clarification was already provided last Friday.
the government already did just that last Friday in terms of clarification.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The response restates the government's position without addressing the minister's contradictory statements.
as I said on Friday, the Nexen transaction is acceptable.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer re-explains the Nexen position and avoids a direct yes-or-no response on amendments.
As we said on Friday, we have accepted the Nexen transaction, which does not, in and of itself, raise the spectre of foreign government control of the oil sands.
- partly answeredNational DefenceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references a review plan but does not confirm whether a tender will be issued.
the government has already announced that it intends to follow a seven-point plan to review all the details of this transaction.
- deflectedNational DefenceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The response highlights existing contracts instead of addressing the absence of a guaranteed industrial benefits contract.
there are hundreds of millions of dollars of contracts that have been let out to Canadian companies in the development of the F-35 aircraft.
- deflectedNational DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer rejects the premise and points to the seven-step plan without explaining the lack of competitive bidding.
I would not begin by accepting the preamble of that question.
- deflectedNational DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The response discusses cost analysis time spans but sidesteps the question on competitive bidding.
it is always possible to say that something will cost more if one keeps lengthening the time span in which one is doing the analysis.
- deflectedNational DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer rejects the premise and refers to a panel without addressing why no competitive bid is used.
I obviously do not accept the preamble to this question.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP and Liberals instead of addressing environmental measures in the CNOOC deal.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general commitments and attacks NDP philosophy without specifying job protection measures.
CNOOC had made significant commitments in terms of governance, trade policy, compliance with the law and long-term economic engagements with respect to economic growth and employment.
- misdirectedForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes a cover-up and special access; the answer dismisses it as untrue and attacks the NDP agenda.
- misdirectedForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The question accuses incompetence and irresponsibility; the answer denies it and pivots to attacking the NDP blocking agenda.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The question uses loaded framing about fear-mongering; the answer addresses the process and oversight but not the Denmark/Dutch comparison directly.
we have set up the National Fighter Procurement Secretariat to ensure that there is maximum transparency and due diligence in the decision leading up to the replacement of our CF-18s.
- answeredNational DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the secretariat, oversight, and that requirements will be set aside for a full options analysis.
the statement of requirements will be set aside and a full options analysis will be done.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The question attacks the minister personally; the answer covers the secretariat and process but ignores the bidding and $9 billion claims.
we have set up the National Fighter Procurement Secretariat, which is managing this process on behalf of the government.
- deflectedNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The question demands the minister explain himself; the answer repeats the secretariat setup without addressing the minister's role or past statements.
we have set up the National Fighter Procurement Secretariat to manage this process in response to the concerns that the Auditor General had.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses the new secretariat and cost estimates instead of addressing or defending the specific prior statements.
Until we have those updated numbers and until we do a full options analysis, the government will not move forward in a decision to replace our CF-18s.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites privacy rules and general improvements rather than addressing the specific case or five-year wait.
If it is to a particular immigration case, I would encourage the member to raise it with me privately, because, of course, she will know that I cannot discuss individual cases publicly without a privacy waiver.
- misdirectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMr. Ted Hsu (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal legacy on backlogs instead of responding to the closed Kingston office or call-centre issues.
The shameful legacy of the Liberal Party with respect to immigration was a backlog of nearly 900,000 people waiting for seven to eight years for a decision on their applications in all of our programs.
- misdirectedCitizenship and ImmigrationJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer insults the member and disputes Liberal-era times rather than explaining current family-class processing delays.
if I were one of the member's constituents, I would cry too.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer describes job-training efforts instead of addressing service cuts or access for remote EI claimants.
We inform them of job openings in their region in their particular field in order to help them find another job.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Claude Patry (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to job-creation statistics and regional work instead of addressing the impact of EI reforms on seasonal economies.
Along with employers, we have created almost 900,000 new jobs here in Canada.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Jonathan Tremblay (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the rationale for changes rather than addressing reversals, Cape Breton claims, or consultation requests.
During the consultations we held in all parts of the country, Canadians told us there was a need for changes in the employment insurance system because some parts of the system were saying no to people who wanted to work.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer claims the system is being fixed through automation and training but avoids acknowledging errors or committing to broader fixes.
We are streamlining and automating the processing so that the unemployed get their cheques and payments much quicker.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general environmental policies instead of addressing the bankruptcy legislation gap.
Our government has invested well over a billion dollars in our federal contaminated sites action plan.
- misdirectedLabourMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The response attacks the NDP rather than addressing the constitutional concerns with the bill.
It is a festive season, but for some reason the NDP seems so stressed out that it accepted $340,000 in gifts, not Christmas gifts but illegal gifts from the unions
- misdirectedLabourMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.Responds by criticizing the NDP and unions instead of addressing the call to support stronger laws against fraud.
This is nothing more than an attempt by union bosses to finance a junk lawsuit at the expense of Canadian workers.
- misdirected41st General ElectionMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer focuses on criticizing the NDP's associations rather than addressing the allegations about the CIMS database or investigation.
Of course, two of the leading financiers of the whole operation include one CUPW, which donates to the NDP front group.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Acknowledges the need for improvement and mentions investments but pivots to criticizing the opposition.
we recognize that we want to improve the system.
- deflectedHousingMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The response emphasizes provincial responsibility and general funding without addressing the specific federal agreements expiring.
We do provide extensive funding to the provinces and territories because we believe they are best positioned to know how to support the efforts in affordable housing according to the needs in their area.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Murray Rankin (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the question about the marina and environmental assessment to boast about economic achievements.
The big picture is our economic action plan has made Canada a leader in troubled global times.
- partly answeredSearch and RescueMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.Directly states that the changes will not impact service levels and highlights assets in the area.
changes to the Coast Guard will have no impact on our ability to provide the world-class excellent service that Canadians and mariners have come to expect.
- misdirectedEthicsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question entirely and instead attacks the questioner personally on an unrelated matter.
That is the same member who got caught taking money in violation of House rules to pay for her housing, money that she had to pay back.
- deflectedHousingMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer gives general statistics on housing support but avoids addressing renewal of the specific agreements mentioned.
the government is currently subsidizing more than 600,000 affording housing units because it believes that Canadians should have affordable and secure housing.
- misdirectedTelecommunicationsMs. Charmaine Borg (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking the NDP's voting record instead of providing a plan or timeline for rural internet.
The NDP voted against Broadband Canada, a concrete measure that we implemented.