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Thursday, December 6, 2012 · sitting No. 193

Commons advances military justice bill amid opposition concerns over criminal records

The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to debate on Bill C-15, the Strengthening Military Justice in the Defence of Canada Act, at second reading. NDP MP Jack Harris criticized the bill for retaining summary trial procedures that can produce criminal records without appeal or legal advice, warning that such outcomes would hinder veterans seeking civilian employment. Conservative MP Chris Alexander defended the legislation as necessary progress and accused the NDP of blocking committee study.

Question period featured exchanges on gun control, with NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair pressing Prime Minister Stephen Harper on reported plans to weaken firearms rules; Harper replied that prohibited weapons would remain prohibited. Liberal Leader Bob Rae questioned the status of the KPMG report on F-35 costs, and Harper said the government was following its seven-point plan with due diligence.

Decided that day

  • Debate on the Strengthening Military Justice in the Defence of Canada Act was adjourned

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Who held the floor · 2012-12-06

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 29%, opposition 71% of the words spokenRoutine proceedingsGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:00Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 55 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
40Debate Adjourned, Bills Go NowhereThe sitting focused on the military justice bill yet produced no legislative progress after debate was adjourned. Question Period yielded few direct answers while procedural matters consumed the rest of the time.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

POINTS OF ORDER

Liberal MP Bob Rae called for greater civility after an incident the previous day, and Conservative MP Peter Van Loan apologized for confronting the NDP House leader over a voting error.

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Petitions

Conservative MP Dan Albas presented petitions from the Kalmring family calling for changes to the Victims' Bill of Rights and bail proceedings after a domestic violence death.

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Aboriginal Affairs

NDP MP Niki Ashton urged a national inquiry into missing and murdered aboriginal women; Conservative MP Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay listed existing government measures including a national centre for missing persons.

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Asbestos

NDP MP François Lapointe asked how the government would spend $50 million for asbestos-region diversification; Conservative MP Christian Paradis said terms would be announced shortly and confirmed Canada would no longer oppose adding chrysotile to the Rotterdam list.

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Foreign Affairs

Conservative MP David Sweet raised reports of possible Syrian chemical weapon use; Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird said any such action would be unacceptable and bring serious consequences.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. answered
    Public SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly denies any plan to weaken the prohibited weapons category as asked.The government has absolutely no intention of weakening that category of protection.
  2. deflected
    Public SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the prior denial without addressing the RCMP concerns or police ability raised.Our government has no intention of changing that category.
  3. deflected
    Public SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists unrelated past measures instead of addressing the advisory committee or dismantling claims.For example, we have created a mandatory minimum sentence of five years for all serious crimes committed with firearms
  4. misdirected
    Public SafetyMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's support record rather than addressing the proposed mental health check changes.I would ask that member to start supporting us on finding ways to prevent the criminal use of firearms.
  5. deflected
    Public SafetyMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates opposition to the registry without addressing the data destruction case or public safety concerns.However, we have indicated that we must continue to implement measures that, in fact, target the criminal use of firearms.
  6. answered
    Public SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer agrees to consider the advice on committee composition and acknowledges concerns.I will take the advice of the leader of the Liberal Party under consideration.
  7. partly answered
    Public SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references victims' perspectives broadly but does not specifically address violence against women or committee input.We will continue to move forward in ways that make sure victims' perspectives on these matters are always understood.
  8. deflected
    National DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids committing to release the KPMG report by the deadline and restates the seven-point plan.The government has said repeatedly that it is following the seven-point plan in terms of responding to the Auditor General's report
  9. deflected
    Status of WomenMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to violence funding and projects without addressing office closures, pay equity, child care or other listed issues.We have now increased our funding for projects to end violence against women to its highest in Canadian history.
  10. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Ms. Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists existing measures and criticizes the opposition instead of committing to a national inquiry.Unlike the opposition, who are against bills like Bill S-2 to protect aboriginal women from violence,
  11. misdirected
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Ms. Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to self-praise and unrelated record claims rather than addressing the inquiry request.The truth is that I am proud to be a Canadian woman and part of this government because our record on looking after victims and standing up for law-abiding Canadians, particularly women, has no equal in this House.
  12. deflected
    Public SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Bergen (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses firearms policy and general safety instead of committing to make violence against women a public-safety priority.We have been very clear in regard to firearms.
  13. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states support for shelters and increased funding but does not commit to raising core funding for on-reserve shelters.We support more than 40 women's shelters across Canada.
  14. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMrs. Carol Hughes (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes general partnerships and funding increases without committing to increased core shelter funding.Our commitment to supporting first nation children and families is clear.
  15. deflected
    HousingMs. Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims housing investments but ignores the request for a national strategy and does not address support for the NDP bill.Unlike the members of the NDP, who just want to talk, we are taking action.
  16. misdirected
    International Co-operationMs. Ève Péclet (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the premise as out of context and pivots to child health without addressing the reproductive-choices claim.that playback is totally out of context with the discussion that was taking place at the time.
  17. misdirected
    Status of WomenMrs. Sana Hassainia (NDP) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the abortion question and instead attacks the NDP's record on unrelated crime bills.Maybe she should have a discussion among her colleagues over there as to what they are doing in this area.
  18. answered
    PensionsJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly explains the rationale and timeline for OAS changes without evasion.The changes to this program do not even start until 2023 and then they will be phased in gradually.
  19. deflected
    Government ServicesDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the economic plan and claims services are protected but does not address the cited Service Canada and immigration cuts.We have protected services that Canadians expect from the federal government, and we will continue to do so.
  20. misdirected
    Government ServicesScott Brison (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking past Liberal cuts rather than addressing current service reductions.At the same time as former Liberal governments were trying to deal with economic pressures, they cut services on health care and education to our provinces.
  21. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer notes a consultation channel but immediately shifts to criticizing NDP policy instead of addressing calls for public debate.Canadians can count on a responsible government that will always makes decisions in their best interests, unlike the NDP which proposes a radical program that would block all forms of foreign investment.
  22. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's foreign-investment stance rather than addressing the handling of the Nexen file.What is really irresponsible is for a political party like the NDP to suggest that it would not allow any form of foreign investment in the country.
  23. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer opens by blaming NDP statements for market chill instead of responding to the criticism of government process.as soon as NDP members open their mouths there is a major investment chill.
  24. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer deflects by listing unrelated NDP policies such as the carbon tax rather than addressing the Nexen timeline and consultation complaints.the real form of disrespect that we can see is from NDP members.
  25. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists secretariat members and praises their work without addressing the accusation of hiding the truth.These are the people doing the work for the government. They are doing substantive and comprehensive work.
  26. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the mandate and release of the KPMG report but avoids confirming if specific cost packages will be made public.The KPMG report is obviously an independent validation of the Department of National Defence's cost estimates and the secretariat will release that as well.
  27. deflected
    Rail TransportationMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the fall review timeline and attacks the NDP's approach instead of addressing rail service complaints or the proposed act.This is another example of the NDP wanting to manage a private company on behalf of the managers who are named to it.
  28. deflected
    Rail TransportationMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the fall timeline and mocks the question while avoiding discussion of CP job cuts or rail infrastructure.To the best of my knowledge, fall is over on December 21—assuming he and I are using the same calendar.
  29. misdirected
    HealthHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Mr. Colin Carrie (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the U.S. warning and provincial pleas, instead attacking the Liberals over past approval of OxyContin.OxyContin was approved in 1996 under the Liberal government. Will the Liberals tell us now why they did absolutely nothing to stop its abuse?
  30. deflected
    National DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the secretariat's role and seven-point plan without addressing why the KPMG report is being withheld.It will be the one to release it and speak to these reports.
  31. answered
    AsbestosMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states Canada will no longer oppose adding asbestos to the list and confirms $50 million for diversification.since the Government of Quebec no longer wished to mine chrysotile asbestos, it was clear that Canada no longer had any reason to oppose including chrysotile asbestos on the Rotterdam Convention list.
  32. answered
    AsbestosMr. Jasbir Sandhu (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer clearly states Canada will no longer oppose adding chrysotile to the list and references the $50 million funding.as we have said, Canada will no longer oppose adding chrysotile asbestos to the Rotterdam Convention list.
  33. answered
    Foreign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms talks with allies on the chemical weapons issue and references consequences for action.Over the past six months I have had the opportunity to speak with colleagues from the United States, the United Kingdom and from the region.
  34. misdirected
    Arctic CouncilMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. Greg Rickford (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking the questioner's voting record instead of addressing Arctic Council duties.Yesterday, he was asked to explain why he voted against his constituents' wishes, for example, on the Inuvik-Tuk highway, and he responded, "I do not really have to answer any of those things".
  35. answered
    Employment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the reform's goal of helping workers find jobs, addressing the core policy question.what we are trying to do is help unemployed workers find new jobs.
  36. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to promoting a green energy project and criticizing the Green Party rather than addressing the briefing question.Yet the Green Party of Canada stood against it.
  37. answered
    Business of the HouseMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly outlines the planned legislative business for the week and following week.This afternoon, the House will resume consideration of second reading of Bill C-15, the Strengthening Military Justice in the Defence of Canada Act