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Monday, December 3, 2012 · sitting No. 190

Commons allots five hours to report stage of budget bill

The House devoted nearly half its sitting to a government motion by Conservative House leader Peter Van Loan to limit debate on Bill C-45, the Jobs and Growth Act, 2012, to five further hours at report stage and one sitting day at third reading. The motion passed after points of order from New Democrat members seeking to add specific lakes and rivers to the schedule of protected navigable waters.

In question period, NDP leader Thomas Mulcair pressed the government on slowing economic growth and the absence of net new private-sector jobs, while Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird cited the creation of more than 800,000 jobs since the recession. Mulcair also questioned the use of temporary foreign workers instead of training unemployed Canadians.

Liberal MP Bob Rae asked whether the disability tax credit could be made refundable for those without taxable income, and NDP environment critic Megan Leslie challenged the government's record on climate finance and Arctic protection.

Decided that day

  • House agreed to proceed to Orders of the Day
  • Motion relating to Bill C-45 passed
  • Bill C-313 advanced in the Senate
  • Bill S-10 advanced in the Commons

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2012-12-03

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 48%, opposition 52% of the words spokenPrivate membersGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:00Last speech 18:55Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 50 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
67Budget bill edges forward, answers mostly missingThe House devoted most of its time to the Jobs and Growth Act and passed two recorded votes that advanced budget legislation and cleared the way for orders of the day. Question Period produced only two direct answers out of 36 exchanges, leaving the rest deflected or misdirected.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Land Mines

NDP MP Paul Dewar marked the 15th anniversary of the Ottawa convention banning land mines and noted Canada's past leadership role in the treaty.

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Gender Selection

Conservative MP Pierre Lemieux condemned private ultrasound clinics that offer early gender testing linked to sex-selective abortion.

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Employment Insurance

Human Resources Minister Diane Finley defended the new social security tribunal as faster and more efficient than the current system after NDP criticism of longer waits and summary dismissals.

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41st General Election

Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre said the party is cooperating with Elections Canada on the investigation into robocalls while accusing the NDP of accepting illegal union donations.

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Aboriginal Affairs

Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan said nearly a million documents have been disclosed to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission and that more will follow in 2013.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The EconomyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer opens with unrelated congratulations and pivots to general job credits without addressing the specific growth forecast question.I would be remiss if I did not first stand and extend our congratulations to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge on the announcement coming from Clarence House earlier today.
  2. misdirected
    EmploymentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer disputes the premise with different job numbers but does not address the claim of no net new private-sector jobs in six months.Since the end of the global recession, over 800,000 new jobs have been created in Canada.
  3. partly answered
    EmploymentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer provides full-time job statistics and notes skills training transfers but does not directly engage the CIBC study or temporary foreign worker policy.The better news is that 90% of those net new jobs are full-time jobs.
  4. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates the net-benefit test and attacks NDP policy instead of addressing the request for published criteria and public consultation timeline.On the other side of the House, the NDP has a radical and irresponsible anti-investment and anti-trade agenda.
  5. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP carbon-tax proposal and avoids any response on criteria publication or Nexen deadline.They propose a carbon tax of $21.5 billion on the shoulders of Canadians.
  6. deflected
    Persons with DisabilitiesBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists existing programs and mentions a forthcoming report but does not address making the disability tax credit refundable.A report on Canadians with disabilities will be coming to her in very short order.
  7. deflected
    Persons with DisabilitiesBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer again lists initiatives and promises a report without answering whether the tax credit will be made refundable.That is why this government has brought in a series of initiatives to try to specifically address the needs of Canadians with a disability.
  8. deflected
    Persons with DisabilitiesBob Rae (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer highlights non-refundable credits and attacks Liberals for delay instead of addressing the refundability proposal.The Liberals are trying to delay those initiatives from being tackled.
  9. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists domestic emission reductions and regulations but ignores the question on financial aid to developing countries and international treaty commitments.Under our government, even though Canada only produces 2% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions, we have seen a stabilization and reduction of greenhouse gas emissions for the first time ever.
  10. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer promotes Canada's international stance and funding but sidesteps the specific question on Arctic melting and urgency of action.our government's track record with regard to international talks has been to encourage an agreement where all major emitters come to the table.
  11. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the asker's loyalty and past donations instead of addressing the social security tribunal and appeal rights.We have to wonder whether the hon. member is loyal to Canada or to separatists, because she made donations to the Québec solidaire party.
  12. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the tribunal's speed but does not address the loss of in-person hearings or rights of unemployed workers.
  13. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer criticizes the old system and promotes the new one but avoids the kangaroo court and summary dismissal concerns.the current system just is not working as well as it should for Canadians.
  14. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to job creation and training instead of responding to clawbacks, longer waits, or denial of benefits to contributors.our target is to help the unemployed get a new job, one that will pay them more than employment insurance and not working.
  15. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Tim Uppal (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking the NDP's illegal donations rather than addressing electoral fraud investigations or promised reforms.In that act we eliminated any donations by corporations and unions, and yet knowing that the NDP still accepted thousands of dollars in illegal donations from unions.
  16. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer accuses the NDP of covering up union donations instead of addressing Conservative stalling or the scope of the voter fraud probe.That is in stark contrast to the approach of the NDP when it accepted $340,000 in illegal union money.
  17. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition on a different issue instead of addressing the question about the Labrador minister and election laws.What does the opposition do? It attacks him for spending too much time in his community and making too much of an effort creating jobs for his constituents.
  18. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses investments and projects but does not address the funding gap or financial incompetence claim.Recently I announced additional measures, such as early literacy programming to further education outcomes.
  19. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to criticizing Liberal legacy and past wait times rather than addressing current office closures and service access.The Liberal immigration legacy left us with wait times of eight and nine years across the entire range of programs.
  20. partly answered
    Government ServicesMr. Sean Casey (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges office reductions and explains online services but does not address the specific PEI cuts or punishment claim.Yes, it is true that, as part of our efforts to reduce operating expenses in order to reduce the deficit, we have decreased the number of offices.
  21. deflected
    International Co-operationMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer denies the bill's benefit and attacks the NDP's voting record on unrelated funding instead of explaining the vote against the bill.The real question is this: why did the NDP vote against $4 billion in initiatives that would have provided medications to countries in need?
  22. deflected
    International Co-operationMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats denial and attacks NDP votes on funding rather than addressing the bill or access to medicines.The fact is that we put forward $4 billion of initiatives to make sure that medicines are provided to the countries in need, and the NDP always voted against it.
  23. partly answered
    HealthMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights record transfers and investments but does not address cuts to transfers or reducing wait times.Transfers to the provinces and territories are at record levels and will increase to approximately $40 billion per year by the end of the decade—
  24. partly answered
    HealthMrs. Djaouida Sellah (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists investments and record transfers but does not address reducing provincial transfers or providing needed resources.transfers to the provinces and territories have increased to $40 billion by the end of the decade.
  25. answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the question by detailing document disclosure progress and timeline.my department is working with the Truth and Reconciliation Commission and 22 other departments to ensure that all relevant documents are made available.
  26. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Jonathan Genest-Jourdain (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer repeats prior details on documents but does not address the implied doubt about intent.we have already turned over a million documents.
  27. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids admitting plans are flawed and instead discusses asylum claim statistics.it is peculiar that the European Union is the number one source region for asylum claims to Canada
  28. answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides specific processing timelines and comparisons for the transferred files.we expect that most of the files that were transferred from Buffalo will be processed within a few months.
  29. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Ms. Michelle Rempel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberal record instead of addressing the current government's climate policy.the Liberal Party has no basis to even talk to this issue when all it has had with regard to climate change policy is a 30% increase in greenhouse gas emissions
  30. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMark Eyking (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges past role but shifts to other priorities without committing to renewed funding.Canada continues to be a top 10 funder of this.
  31. partly answered
    Persons with DisabilitiesMs. Manon Perreault (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions expecting a report soon but does not address the UN reporting obligation or timeline.We have also asked for a report, which I expect to receive very soon
  32. misdirected
    Persons with DisabilitiesMr. Mike Sullivan (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's opposition record instead of addressing the specific funding and promise issues raised.at every single step of the way the NDP has opposed that action.
  33. misdirected
    TransportRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's record instead of addressing the requested legislation timeline or mandatory elements.it is very interesting to hear that from a member who has been here for 13 years before and had done absolutely nothing.
  34. deflected
    Aerospace IndustryMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The response highlights government vision and tax policy without addressing the claimed cuts or inaction on aerospace jobs.Our government has a vision, and we need the expertise of outside consultants to know where we will be in 5, 10, 15 or 20 years.
  35. deflected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites external endorsements of arts funding rather than addressing missing content or the impact of specific cuts.This government clearly appreciates the positive contribution the arts have to the economy and the identity of this country
  36. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMr. Louis Plamondon (Bloc) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the loan guarantee mechanism but sidesteps the claim of disregarding Quebec's interests.a loan guarantee is not an allocation of taxpayers' money; it is the use of our credit rating, which reflects the government's strong financial performance.