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Wednesday, October 31, 2012 · sitting No. 173

Commons advances financial literacy bill amid China investment clashes

The House spent the largest share of its time on third reading of the Financial Literacy Leader Act. Conservative MP Ted Menzies moved the bill at third reading and noted the finance committee had completed its study earlier in the fall. NDP MP Glenn Thibeault asked whether bilingualism would be required of the financial literacy leader.

In Question Period the NDP pressed the government on the Canada-China foreign investment promotion and protection agreement. NDP leader Thomas Mulcair said the deal would bind future governments for 31 years without parliamentary study and asked why it could not be debated. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the agreement would give Canadian investors protection they lack in China and that the NDP record shows opposition to trade deals.

Other exchanges focused on changes to the Navigable Waters Protection Act and fisheries habitat protection contained in the budget implementation bill.

Decided that day

  • Three bills passed third reading
  • S-206 and C-46 received royal assent

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Who held the floor · 2012-10-31

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 38%, opposition 62% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment businessPrivate members▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:0018:00Last speech 19:05Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 5 h 0 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
64Bills Pass While Answers Mostly MissThe House devoted most of its time to substantive business and passed three bills at third reading while moving several others forward. Question period produced few direct answers, yet the sitting recorded no points of order or procedural clashes.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

The Environment

NDP MP Megan Leslie asked the chair of the environment committee whether meetings would be added to study changes to the Navigable Waters Protection Act inside the budget bill. Minister Denis Lebel said the list of protected waters rests on scientific analysis by Transport Canada staff.

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Veterans Affairs

NDP MP Manon Perreault said two veterans ombudsmen have found the Veterans Review and Appeal Board is not working and asked when it would be replaced. Minister Steven Blaney replied that the ombudsman has said the board plays a key role and urged support for appointments.

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Fisheries and Oceans

NDP MP Fin Donnelly said the government has gutted the Fisheries Act and is reducing habitat protection staff in British Columbia. Minister Gail Shea said funding for fishery science has increased and operations are being consolidated into 16 locations.

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Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency

NDP MP Ryan Cleary said Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency funding fell 25 per cent last year. Minister Bernard Valcourt said federal investment in the region is at record levels once stimulus and the shipbuilding initiative are counted.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes the agreement's benefits without addressing the call for parliamentary debate.This agreement would allow us to move forward.
  2. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks the NDP's position rather than addressing the request for study.That is precisely why Canadian investors, the Canadian business community and the Canadian public at large do not trust the NDP with economic policy.
  3. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper dismisses concerns and pivots to criticizing the NDP's trade record.The NDP even said that it was a sellout for Canada to have a free trade agreement with the United States.
  4. deflected
    Government AccountabilityMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The minister claims information is available through budgets but avoids confirming provision to the PBO.as the member opposite knows, this information has been provided to the House in various ways, through the budget, estimates and so on
  5. deflected
    Government AccountabilityMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Response emphasizes NDP opposition to bills instead of addressing PBO access or economic warnings.the NDP again voted against economic progress for our country
  6. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper reiterates benefits without explaining the notice period or addressing committee hearings.once again, we are achieving, for the first time, long-term protection for Canadian investors in China.
  7. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer focuses on the agreement's importance without responding to the suggestion for committee meetings.It is important that we pursue these objectives and take action.
  8. deflected
    Foreign InvestmentBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Harper avoids the call for transparency and committee review by restating the agreement's goals.We are prepared to act on this side of the House, and that is what we are going to do.
  9. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer supplies data on protected waters instead of addressing whether meetings will be scheduled.the list of protected bodies of water is based on the scientific analysis and the knowledge of Transport Canada staff.
  10. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats statistics on waterways rather than responding to the request for expert witness meetings.the list of protected waterways is based on science and security.
  11. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses past travel and consultations but avoids committing to future committee meetings on the amendments.the committee, myself and my parliamentary secretary have all travelled extensively throughout the country.
  12. misdirected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the premise of the question and accuses the asker of mixing issues rather than addressing the study commitment.the premise of the question is totally false.
  13. misdirected
    Public SafetyMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to criticizing NDP budget bills in other provinces instead of confirming study of Bill C-45.They complain that this bill is too big, but when the NDP does budget bills in Manitoba, they are omnibus bills.
  14. deflected
    TransportMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to departmental savings and a carbon tax attack instead of addressing the committee agenda.What is important is that we are not going to implement a carbon tax that will place an additional $21 billion burden on the shoulders of Canadian taxpayers.
  15. answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Mr. David Tilson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states that the chair will not overrule the committee decision.If that is what she is asking me to do, the answer is no.
  16. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer corrects a prior page count figure rather than addressing the protection disparity claim.When we have it bilingual, as ours is, it is actually 778 pages long, far longer than any budget bill from this government.
  17. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the question as a conspiracy theory and shifts to unrelated waterways instead of addressing the Muskoka lakes claim.He has ignored bodies of water that are inconsistent with his conspiracy theory, including oceans, the St. Lawrence Seaway and many others.
  18. answered
    Public SafetyMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked Ms. Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the timeline of the arrest and explains why further details cannot be discussed due to ongoing court proceedings.Department of Justice officials received a request from the United States to arrest Mr. Jacobson on October 24.
  19. misdirected
    National DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses efficiencies but then pivots to attacking the questioner's past government rather than the photo-op spending issue.However, when it comes to the issue of the decade of darkness, I would have to defer completely to that member who was part of the government that brought that decade into being.
  20. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer calls the premise false and cites scientific data without engaging the claim that Conservative ridings received disproportionate protection.This list is based on scientific data and statistics collected for years.
  21. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the temporary nature of prior supports but does not address the lack of consultation or the minister's communication with Atlantic Canadians.All of these programs were always destined to be short term to help Canadians through the worst of the recession.
  22. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general benefits of the changes without confirming whether promises on consultation were kept or the reform will be scrapped.Our programs will help people find and keep jobs.
  23. misdirected
    Atlantic Canada Opportunities AgencyMr. Ryan Cleary (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer counters with overall federal investment and shipbuilding but does not address the specific 25% ACOA funding decline.If he wants to compare apples to apples and look at investment for economic development, he should take into account stimulus measures that were meant to deal with the recession
  24. deflected
    Atlantic Canada Opportunities AgencyMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Bernard Valcourt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims higher investment overall and criticizes the member for not doing homework instead of addressing partisan appointments and staff cuts.if the member had done his homework, he would know what is going on in the Atlantic region.
  25. deflected
    Veterans AffairsMs. Manon Perreault (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer defends the board and attacks NDP instead of addressing dismantling request.Why do the New Democrats want to deprive veterans of a legitimate service they receive thanks to free legal services?
  26. deflected
    Veterans AffairsMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer highlights government actions but ignores the specific lump sum formula criticism.As the member is well aware, the disability award is one of the many benefits that our veterans are getting, whether from Veterans Affairs Canada or DND.
  27. deflected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Sylvain Chicoine (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims action on red tape but pivots to criticize the colleague rather than addressing Auditor General concerns directly.Why is my NDP colleague against cutting red tape in order to speed up and simplify our processes?
  28. deflected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses general efforts but does not address the CPP disability clawback issue.We are moving forward, and I will table legislation to keep on with this good work.
  29. answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly counters the premise with facts about the students' cases and process.Both of these individuals had hearings before the immigration division before receiving exclusion orders.
  30. deflected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Sean Casey (Liberal) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). loaded question.Answer boasts of actions and attacks Liberal record instead of addressing lawsuits.coming from a member of the Liberal Party and its years of neglect, I am proud to say that yes, our government is standing up and acting for veterans.
  31. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). loaded question.Answer claims increased funding but shifts to program consolidation without addressing science cuts.Fisheries and Oceans is consolidating its habitat management operations into 16 locations across Canada to provide for better protection of fisheries resources that Canadians value.
  32. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the report but provides no timeline or action plan details.We are pleased to be tabling it this afternoon.
  33. deflected
    CensusCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes hypocrisy as fact and demands a yes/no on removing all jail time; the answer restates the government's reform position without addressing the query.We have always believed that, with a balanced approach, we can collect the information needed concerning the long form census.
  34. deflected
    EmploymentMs. Isabelle Morin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks for a job creation plan matching youth qualifications; the answer lists existing spending and attacks the NDP instead of addressing the plan.Unfortunately, as always, the NDP opposed these initiatives to help our youth.
  35. partly answered
    The Mining IndustryMr. Dany Morin (NDP) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The question specifically asks about maintaining the centre's budget; the answer confirms the centre stays open but omits any budget details.As I said yesterday, the government's position is clear: the centre will remain open.
  36. answered
    SecuritiesMr. Louis Plamondon (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The question presupposes hidden clauses; the answer directly denies any concealment and explains the Supreme Court guidance on responsibilities.Mr. Speaker, nothing, actually.