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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 · sitting No. 163
Commons debates anti-terrorism bill amid rights concerns
The House spent the largest share of the day on second reading of Bill S-7, the Combating Terrorism Act. New Democratic MPs argued the bill's provisions for investigative hearings and preventive arrests are unnecessary and infringe civil liberties, while government members maintained the measures are needed to address terrorism threats.
Question period featured repeated exchanges on the XL Foods meat recall, with NDP leader Thomas Mulcair pressing Prime Minister Stephen Harper on ministerial responsibility and the sale of contaminated beef to Canadians. Harper replied that decisions rest with the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and that the plant would remain closed until safety is assured.
Decided that day
- Bill C-299 passed third reading
- Ways and Means motion passed
- Two new bills introduced
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Who held the floor · 2012-10-17
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National Defence
NDP leader Thomas Mulcair said Canadian troops were serving in combat roles in Kandahar despite earlier government assurances, and he called for their immediate withdrawal. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that only a small number of personnel are involved in NATO exchanges and there is no combat mission.
Read the exchangeEthics
Liberal leader Bob Rae questioned the Prime Minister's standards after reports that the member for Labrador overspent by more than $20,000 in the last election. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said errors were made by the official agent, who has since been replaced, and pointed to Liberal robocall violations.
Read the exchangeEmployment Insurance
NDP MP Anne-Marie Day said the government made major EI changes without consulting workers, employers or provinces. Minister Diane Finley replied that the reforms aim to connect unemployed Canadians with available jobs in their regions.
Read the exchangeForeign Investment
NDP MP Hélène LeBlanc asked whether the government believes a foreign state should control Canadian natural resources through the CNOOC-Nexen transaction. Minister Gary Goodyear said the deal would be scrutinized under the Investment Canada Act and national-security provisions.
Read the exchangeSecure, Adequate, Accessible and Affordable Housing Act
NDP MP Marie-Claude Morin introduced Bill C-400 to create a national housing strategy and said coordination among governments and providers is essential. Conservative MP Scott Armstrong said the economic action plan has already supported hundreds of thousands of new housing units.
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- deflectedFood SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts responsibility to CFIA without addressing ministerial accountability.
The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is responsible for inspections.
- deflectedFood SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the 14-day delay question by reiterating CFIA's scientific role.
it is the Canadian Food Inspection Agency that makes these decisions based on science, not on political decisions.
- misdirectedFood SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the question's statements as erroneous rather than addressing the call to fire the minister.
there are many statements there that are clearly erroneous.
- partly answeredNational DefenceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer clarifies no combat mission but does not fully address the discrepancy with prior statements.
the government has no combat mission in Kandahar.
- deflectedNational DefenceThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates the training operations claim without engaging the withdrawal demand.
Clearly, there is no Canadian combat mission—
- deflectedCanadian Food Inspection AgencyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes Auditor General independence but does not address why the amendment was rejected.
The Auditor General can audit this and any number of other agencies.
- misdirectedEthicsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to attacking Liberal standards instead of stating the PM's own ministerial conduct standards.
If the hon. gentleman wants to talk about standards, it was the Liberal member for Guelph whose campaign was found to have made $5,000 in illegal robocalls.
- deflectedEthicsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats prior explanation on filings without addressing the overspending or byelection call.
we have known for quite some time that there were errors in the Elections Canada filings.
- partly answeredAgriculture and Agri-FoodMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The minister discusses food safety and industry meetings but does not outline specific assistance for workers and farmers.
I met with a lot of the industry participants yesterday in ongoing meetings.
- deflectedAgriculture and Agri-FoodMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Responds by listing actions taken but avoids addressing the claim of being out of touch or ignoring concerns.
We are very positively and proactively working on these issues.
- deflectedAgriculture and Agri-FoodMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Claims action but pivots to a conference call without detailing assistance plan.
I had a conference call with my provincial counterparts as late as yesterday afternoon.
- partly answeredBudget ImplementationMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Explains the budget bill process but does not engage with the accusation of hidden attacks.
When we do a budget we follow it up with two budget bills, and we do that every year.
- deflectedBudget ImplementationMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.Focuses on positive outcomes and plan instead of addressing parliamentary process or working with opposition.
The results of all of this have been the creation of more than 800,000 net new jobs.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Instead of answering about the minister's actions, turns to questioning the opposition member's federalism.
Does he believe in a united Canada? Is he a federalist?
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Refuses to engage further and instead questions the asker's beliefs and donations.
He could put the whole matter to rest by simply rising and saying that he is a federalist and he believes in a united Canada.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Defends the minister but pivots to criticizing the opposition's policies rather than addressing the election spending issue.
Why will the member not recognize that the people in Labrador, in fact, people right across this country, want a low tax plan for jobs and growth, not high taxes that will put them out of work.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the appointment and instead attacks the NDP and the member.
Why will a member for Newfoundland not stand up for the taxpayers and the hard-working people from his province?
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Scott Andrews (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer deflects by accusing Liberals of illegal loans rather than addressing the member's actions.
Why will that member not help clean up the half million dollar ethical mess and stop throwing rocks when he lives in a little red glass house?
- partly answeredTreasury BoardGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the lack of political interference but avoids the specific Treasury Board policy questions.
the public court record states that the commissioner found problems with the way the public service ran its hiring process but did not find any political interference by ministers or ministerial staff.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general policy without addressing the replacement of the director or net benefit definition.
The government has always, and will always, act in the best interests of Canada and Canadians.
- misdirectedForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's trade record instead of explaining enforcement of past conditions.
the NDP sent an anti-trade mission to Washington to advocate against Canadian jobs.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to the economic action plan and carbon tax instead of addressing public review or enforcement.
We are in fact going to look at this bill very carefully and, as always, we will do what is in the best interest of Canada and Canadians.
- answeredEmploymentMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the rules requiring proof of no Canadian workers and comparable pay.
For any company to bring in offshore workers, they must first prove that there are no Canadians available to do the job.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses labour shortages and connecting workers to jobs but avoids committing to consultations.
What we are trying to do, unlike the NDP, is to connect the unemployed with the jobs that are available in their region so that they can have better living conditions for themselves, their family and their community.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer promotes job numbers and attacks NDP instead of addressing consultation or EI reforms.
The NDP should try doing that for a change themselves.
- misdirectedRegional Economic DevelopmentMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks NDP carbon tax instead of outlining project selection criteria.
unlike the NDP with its plans to introduce a carbon tax, which will be bad for Quebec.
- partly answeredGovernment AppointmentsMr. Ryan Cleary (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.Answer begins to address the appointment but is cut off before completing.
This is not a political issue.
- partly answeredFood SafetyCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists agency involvement dates but does not address why the Chief Public Health Officer is not the public voice.
Public Health has been at every one and has taken part.
- deflectedFood SafetyCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends briefings and insults the opposition's emergency debate instead of committing to a new press conference.
instead of taking advantage of that, they decided to have a silly emergency debate that went nowhere.
- deflectedAviation SafetyMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states safety is a priority but does not address the impact of cuts on screeners or passenger safety.
aviation safety is Transport Canada's top priority.
- deflectedEmploymentMr. Andrew Cash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.Answer highlights auto and finance sectors instead of addressing Toronto job losses or EI changes.
We will continue on the agenda for jobs, growth and prosperity.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMark Eyking (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses the fraud investigation premise but does not name any community as requested.
involves 60 people who are directly affected by a multi-year investigation into alleged fraud and deliberate misrepresentations
- partly answeredStatus of WomenMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The minister acknowledges the invitation and says she will try to attend but immediately pivots to her own congratulatory message.
I appreciate the member's invitation. I am aware of the forum and I am very pleased to see that it is being held. I will see what I can do to get there.
- deflectedCanadian HeritageMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The minister rejects the premise outright and promotes the government's position without addressing the specific cuts or rationale for the change.
such is not the case. Library and Archives Canada will be involved in this process.
- deflectedAviation SafetyMrs. Maria Mourani (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The response offers only general statements about aviation security and does not address the specific incident or actions taken at Montreal airport.
security is our top priority when it comes to the aerospace industry and air transport.
- partly answeredPoints of OrderMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The minister issues a qualified apology but immediately criticizes the opposition's conduct in the debate.
absolutely, I unequivocally apologize if I have impugned your motives in bringing forward an emergency debate.