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Tuesday, October 16, 2012 · sitting No. 162
Liberals move to limit omnibus bills in supply-day debate
Liberal MP Marc Garneau moved a supply motion that would instruct the procedure and House affairs committee to study limits on omnibus legislation after citing the former member for Calgary Southwest's 1994 criticism of the practice. The motion, which NDP MP Nathan Cullen and Green MP Bruce Hyer supported, remained before the House at adjournment.
In question period NDP MP Nycole Turmel pressed the prime minister on the minister of agriculture's handling of the tainted-meat recall, while Conservative leader Stephen Harper said the Canadian Food Inspection Agency was managing the file. Liberal leader Bob Rae challenged the government on its earlier opposition to omnibus bills, and the prime minister replied that current procedures followed past rulings.
Decided that day
- C-37 and C-43 read a second time and sent to committee
- S-11 advanced in first chamber
- C-452 and S-12 introduced
- Motion agreeing with comments of member for Calgary Southwest defeated
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2012-10-16
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National Defence
NDP MP Jack Harris asked why Canadian Forces members were serving in combat roles in Kandahar despite earlier statements limiting the mission to embassy protection, and minister Peter MacKay said exchanges with NATO allies were longstanding practice.
Read the exchangeEmployment Insurance
NDP MP Anne-Marie Day questioned changes to the working-while-on-claim pilot project, and minister Diane Finley said the measures would help unemployed Canadians return to work.
Read the exchangeOfficial Languages
NDP MP Yvon Godin cited the commissioner of official languages report on Air Canada and other agencies, and minister James Moore said federal programs were producing measurable gains in bilingualism.
Read the exchangeSmall Business
NDP MP François Lapointe criticized proposed changes to the small-business loan program, and minister Gary Goodyear said the revisions would cut red tape and increase financing.
Read the exchangeInternational Trade
Liberal MP Wayne Easter said internal studies showed European patents would raise drug costs by two billion dollars a year, and minister Gerald Keddy said negotiations were ongoing and no final text existed.
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- deflectedFood SafetyMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates CFIA role without addressing call for minister to step aside.
the Canadian Food Inspection Agency is responsible for dealing with this situation.
- deflectedFood SafetyMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats CFIA responsibility and defers review instead of explaining post-September illnesses.
Once this incident is concluded, all the facts and the situation will be reviewed.
- deflectedFood SafetyMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer insists CFIA inspects food and avoids any discussion of minister resigning.
it is not the minister who does food inspection; it is the Canadian Food Inspection Agency that does food inspection.
- answeredNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly denies existence of other disguised combat operations.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains exchanges as long-standing practice but does not address misleading the House or respecting the motion.
This is in the spirit of the motions before Parliament.
- deflectedFood SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts focus to CFIA actions and resources instead of ministerial accountability.
what I said was it was not politicians who did food inspection.
- partly answeredOmnibus LegislationBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges past debate on procedure but justifies current omnibus bill without reconciling with quoted past statements.
The government is acting within the spirit and letter of those decisions.
- deflectedOmnibus LegislationBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer pivots to defending the economic action plan and attacking Liberal motives on pensions.
I understand that the Liberal Party wants a separate legislative package for MP pensions so they can get a special deal
- deflectedFood SafetyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The response defends CFIA actions but avoids addressing the minister's specific comment on XL's statement or responsibility for farmers.
From day one, we have acted on this issue.
- deflectedFood SafetyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes science-based decisions but does not explain cuts to inspectors or provide requested details on sick Canadians.
all the decisions made to this point over this issue have not been political decisions.
- partly answeredFood SafetyMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The response mentions new legislation for food safety but does not address a specific plan for the cattle industry or restoring consumer confidence.
we continue to build the robust food safety system that is required.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer focuses on job creation priorities but does not address splitting workers into groups or fixing the program for all.
this government's priority is job creation, economic growth and the security of Canadians.
- misdirectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks the NDP voting record instead of addressing whether the changes benefit unemployed workers.
the New Democrats have just admitted that they were proud to vote against all the initiatives
- answeredEmployment InsuranceMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly clarifies that the issue involves a fraud investigation rather than a general denial of benefits to family workers.
the member has his facts all wrong. There are many situations where family members can work and receive EI benefits.
- deflectedFisheries and OceansMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). loaded question.The response justifies cost recovery policy but avoids discussing the extra costs to fishermen or working with the industry.
we expect those who benefit from it to pay their share of it
- partly answeredGovernment AppointmentsMr. Ryan Cleary (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the lack of political interference but does not explain why the appointee continues to draw salary and expenses.
the commissioner found problems with the way the public service ran its hiring process but did not find any political interference
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsMr. Ryan Cleary (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites the commissioner's statement on interference but ignores the explicit request to release the full report.
He also clearly said that it did not find any political interference by ministers or political staff.
- deflectedPublic Health AgencyCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions coordination with provinces but does not address muzzling or allowing the agency to speak directly to Canadians.
the Public Health Agency has been working with the provinces and territories from the very beginning of this process and it continues to do so.
- misdirectedFood SafetyMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition for requesting a debate instead of addressing the call for a resource audit of CFIA.
I am not sure why members opposite did not take advantage of a technical briefing we offered them.
- deflectedGovernment AppointmentsGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the commissioner's findings on hiring but does not answer who pays legal costs or expense details.
In the meantime, this matter is before the courts.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights positive programs but does not explain why problems at specific agencies persist.
- misdirectedOfficial LanguagesMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the question as ridiculous and pivots to general successes without addressing specific institutional closures or appointments.
- misdirectedSmall BusinessMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to attacking a carbon tax instead of justifying changes to the small business loan program.
What we will not do is impose a $21 billion carbon tax that will hurt seniors, hurt students and kill small businesses.
- misdirectedSmall BusinessMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's stance on business and repeats the carbon tax claim rather than committing to credit support measures.
I know the NDP is against businesses in general.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes false premise of a broad tax; answer pivots to criticizing NDP policy instead.
The green shift of the Liberal Party only proposed $15 billion worth of carbon taxes and the NDP members want $20 billion worth of carbon taxes
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes contradiction in PM statements; answer restates government position without addressing the quoted claim.
No plan ever proposed by this government has involved raising revenue and taking money from Canadian consumers.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.Rhetorical question invites attack; answer insults asker then shifts to government record.
if the member keeps leading with her chin, I am prepared to keep going for it.
- partly answeredInternational TradeWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges ongoing talks and balance goal but avoids confirming study release or cost admission.
our government will not sign the agreement unless it is in the best interest of all Canadians.
- answeredRegional DevelopmentMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains BDC independence and upcoming report response.
the Business Development Bank of Canada operates independently of the government.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). loaded question.Question demands apology over flyer; answer restates policy without addressing the request.
Canadians have been very clear when it comes to interim federal health in this country.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). loaded question.Question cites specific flyer and provincial costs; answer repeats general policy talking points.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMs. Lise St-Denis (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Question asks for enforcement action; answer disputes premise and highlights past investments instead.
I completely disagree with the premise of the question.
- deflectedCanada Post CorporationMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition and pivots to carbon tax instead of addressing any development plan.
By the way, mail would cost a lot more with a carbon tax.
- deflectedLibrary and Archives CanadaMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes the museum project and urges the asker to drop rhetoric rather than confirming control over archives.
I hope that the NDP will actually decide to support this initiative, because this is in fact an effort to bring all Canadians together to talk about all of Canada's stories.
- misdirectedCanadian HeritageMr. Louis Plamondon (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies politicization then attacks the Bloc Québécois for being against Quebec.
It is unfortunate that the Bloc Québécois continues to be against Quebec.