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Tuesday, October 16, 2012 · sitting No. 162

Liberals move to limit omnibus bills in supply-day debate

Liberal MP Marc Garneau moved a supply motion that would instruct the procedure and House affairs committee to study limits on omnibus legislation after citing the former member for Calgary Southwest's 1994 criticism of the practice. The motion, which NDP MP Nathan Cullen and Green MP Bruce Hyer supported, remained before the House at adjournment.

In question period NDP MP Nycole Turmel pressed the prime minister on the minister of agriculture's handling of the tainted-meat recall, while Conservative leader Stephen Harper said the Canadian Food Inspection Agency was managing the file. Liberal leader Bob Rae challenged the government on its earlier opposition to omnibus bills, and the prime minister replied that current procedures followed past rulings.

Decided that day

  • C-37 and C-43 read a second time and sent to committee
  • S-11 advanced in first chamber
  • C-452 and S-12 introduced
  • Motion agreeing with comments of member for Calgary Southwest defeated

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2012-10-16

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 34%, opposition 66% of the words spokenGovernment businessGovernment businessPrivate Members’ Business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:00Last speech 19:15Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 9 h 10 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
62Bills Move Forward, Answers Mostly DeflectedSeveral bills advanced through readings and introductions while supply business consumed the largest share of time. Question Period produced few direct answers and one opposition motion failed.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

National Defence

NDP MP Jack Harris asked why Canadian Forces members were serving in combat roles in Kandahar despite earlier statements limiting the mission to embassy protection, and minister Peter MacKay said exchanges with NATO allies were longstanding practice.

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Employment Insurance

NDP MP Anne-Marie Day questioned changes to the working-while-on-claim pilot project, and minister Diane Finley said the measures would help unemployed Canadians return to work.

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Official Languages

NDP MP Yvon Godin cited the commissioner of official languages report on Air Canada and other agencies, and minister James Moore said federal programs were producing measurable gains in bilingualism.

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Small Business

NDP MP François Lapointe criticized proposed changes to the small-business loan program, and minister Gary Goodyear said the revisions would cut red tape and increase financing.

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International Trade

Liberal MP Wayne Easter said internal studies showed European patents would raise drug costs by two billion dollars a year, and minister Gerald Keddy said negotiations were ongoing and no final text existed.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Food SafetyMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates CFIA role without addressing call for minister to step aside.the Canadian Food Inspection Agency is responsible for dealing with this situation.
  2. deflected
    Food SafetyMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats CFIA responsibility and defers review instead of explaining post-September illnesses.Once this incident is concluded, all the facts and the situation will be reviewed.
  3. deflected
    Food SafetyMs. Nycole Turmel (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer insists CFIA inspects food and avoids any discussion of minister resigning.it is not the minister who does food inspection; it is the Canadian Food Inspection Agency that does food inspection.
  4. answered
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly denies existence of other disguised combat operations.
  5. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explains exchanges as long-standing practice but does not address misleading the House or respecting the motion.This is in the spirit of the motions before Parliament.
  6. deflected
    Food SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts focus to CFIA actions and resources instead of ministerial accountability.what I said was it was not politicians who did food inspection.
  7. partly answered
    Omnibus LegislationBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges past debate on procedure but justifies current omnibus bill without reconciling with quoted past statements.The government is acting within the spirit and letter of those decisions.
  8. deflected
    Omnibus LegislationBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer pivots to defending the economic action plan and attacking Liberal motives on pensions.I understand that the Liberal Party wants a separate legislative package for MP pensions so they can get a special deal
  9. deflected
    Food SafetyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The response defends CFIA actions but avoids addressing the minister's specific comment on XL's statement or responsibility for farmers.From day one, we have acted on this issue.
  10. deflected
    Food SafetyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes science-based decisions but does not explain cuts to inspectors or provide requested details on sick Canadians.all the decisions made to this point over this issue have not been political decisions.
  11. partly answered
    Food SafetyMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The response mentions new legislation for food safety but does not address a specific plan for the cattle industry or restoring consumer confidence.we continue to build the robust food safety system that is required.
  12. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer focuses on job creation priorities but does not address splitting workers into groups or fixing the program for all.this government's priority is job creation, economic growth and the security of Canadians.
  13. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks the NDP voting record instead of addressing whether the changes benefit unemployed workers.the New Democrats have just admitted that they were proud to vote against all the initiatives
  14. answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly clarifies that the issue involves a fraud investigation rather than a general denial of benefits to family workers.the member has his facts all wrong. There are many situations where family members can work and receive EI benefits.
  15. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Robert Chisholm (NDP) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). loaded question.The response justifies cost recovery policy but avoids discussing the extra costs to fishermen or working with the industry.we expect those who benefit from it to pay their share of it
  16. partly answered
    Government AppointmentsMr. Ryan Cleary (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the lack of political interference but does not explain why the appointee continues to draw salary and expenses.the commissioner found problems with the way the public service ran its hiring process but did not find any political interference
  17. deflected
    Government AppointmentsMr. Ryan Cleary (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites the commissioner's statement on interference but ignores the explicit request to release the full report.He also clearly said that it did not find any political interference by ministers or political staff.
  18. deflected
    Public Health AgencyCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions coordination with provinces but does not address muzzling or allowing the agency to speak directly to Canadians.the Public Health Agency has been working with the provinces and territories from the very beginning of this process and it continues to do so.
  19. misdirected
    Food SafetyMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition for requesting a debate instead of addressing the call for a resource audit of CFIA.I am not sure why members opposite did not take advantage of a technical briefing we offered them.
  20. deflected
    Government AppointmentsGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the commissioner's findings on hiring but does not answer who pays legal costs or expense details.In the meantime, this matter is before the courts.
  21. deflected
    Official LanguagesMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights positive programs but does not explain why problems at specific agencies persist.
  22. misdirected
    Official LanguagesMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the question as ridiculous and pivots to general successes without addressing specific institutional closures or appointments.
  23. misdirected
    Small BusinessMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to attacking a carbon tax instead of justifying changes to the small business loan program.What we will not do is impose a $21 billion carbon tax that will hurt seniors, hurt students and kill small businesses.
  24. misdirected
    Small BusinessMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's stance on business and repeats the carbon tax claim rather than committing to credit support measures.I know the NDP is against businesses in general.
  25. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes false premise of a broad tax; answer pivots to criticizing NDP policy instead.The green shift of the Liberal Party only proposed $15 billion worth of carbon taxes and the NDP members want $20 billion worth of carbon taxes
  26. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes contradiction in PM statements; answer restates government position without addressing the quoted claim.No plan ever proposed by this government has involved raising revenue and taking money from Canadian consumers.
  27. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.Rhetorical question invites attack; answer insults asker then shifts to government record.if the member keeps leading with her chin, I am prepared to keep going for it.
  28. partly answered
    International TradeWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges ongoing talks and balance goal but avoids confirming study release or cost admission.our government will not sign the agreement unless it is in the best interest of all Canadians.
  29. answered
    Regional DevelopmentMauril Bélanger (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains BDC independence and upcoming report response.the Business Development Bank of Canada operates independently of the government.
  30. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). loaded question.Question demands apology over flyer; answer restates policy without addressing the request.Canadians have been very clear when it comes to interim federal health in this country.
  31. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). loaded question.Question cites specific flyer and provincial costs; answer repeats general policy talking points.
  32. deflected
    Official LanguagesMs. Lise St-Denis (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Question asks for enforcement action; answer disputes premise and highlights past investments instead.I completely disagree with the premise of the question.
  33. deflected
    Canada Post CorporationMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Steven Fletcher (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition and pivots to carbon tax instead of addressing any development plan.By the way, mail would cost a lot more with a carbon tax.
  34. deflected
    Library and Archives CanadaMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes the museum project and urges the asker to drop rhetoric rather than confirming control over archives.I hope that the NDP will actually decide to support this initiative, because this is in fact an effort to bring all Canadians together to talk about all of Canada's stories.
  35. misdirected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Louis Plamondon (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies politicization then attacks the Bloc Québécois for being against Quebec.It is unfortunate that the Bloc Québécois continues to be against Quebec.