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Thursday, October 4, 2012 · sitting No. 159

Commons debates faster removal of foreign criminals act

The House spent half the day debating Bill C-43 at second reading. NDP members Wayne Marston, Alexandre Boulerice, Hoang Mai and Isabelle Morin argued that the bill grants excessive discretionary power to the immigration minister and risks undermining due process for refugees and temporary residents. The bill remains before the House.

In Question Period the NDP pressed the government on the XL Foods E. coli outbreak. Leader Thomas Mulcair asked Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz why inspectors were not told that the company had withheld testing data and continued to operate after equipment failures. Ritz replied that the CFIA had acted on the first positive test on September 4 and that no contaminated product reached retail shelves.

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Who held the floor · 2012-10-04

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 28%, opposition 72% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:30Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 30 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
39Debate Swirls, Few Answers EmergeThe sitting devoted most time to debate on the Faster Removal of Foreign Criminals Act yet recorded no votes and advanced only one bill at introduction. Question period produced mostly deflected or misdirected replies amid seven calls to order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Port of Montreal

Alexandre Boulerice accused the Prime Minister's Office of pushing the appointment of Robert Abdallah despite corruption allegations. Pierre Poilievre replied that Boulerice had donated 29 times to a separatist party and challenged him to affirm his belief in Canada.

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Aboriginal Affairs

Jean Crowder said first nations chiefs rejected unilateral federal decisions and warned of civil disobedience. John Duncan said the government is consulting intensively and has built 33 schools since 2006.

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Employment Insurance

Judy Foote said the government's working-while-on-claim pilot project cuts funding by 57 per cent. Kellie Leitch said the changes encourage claimants to accept part-time work that often leads to full-time jobs.

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Aboriginal Affairs

Niki Ashton asked when the government would call a national inquiry. Kerry-Lynne Findlay said the government is investing in policing and victim services and attaches urgency to the issue.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Food SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies the premise of a self-regulating system instead of addressing responsibility.Mr. Speaker, of course, there is no such system.
  2. deflected
    Food SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer describes actions taken after detection but avoids addressing prior knowledge or withholding.when the first sign of E. coli showed up on September 4, CFIA staff took that seriously.
  3. deflected
    Food SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer points to website timeline and system robustness rather than addressing alleged withholding of information.if the member opposite cared to go on the CFIA website, he would find a full timeline from September 4 on, day by day, of exactly what it did and how it did it.
  4. misdirected
    Food SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to international rankings and calls for NDP support instead of addressing the call to resign.I am hopeful that the NDP will support us in those initiatives.
  5. deflected
    Food SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies self-regulation and cites staffing numbers while ignoring the demand for resignation.there is no such thing as a self-regulating system in Canada.
  6. partly answered
    Food SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.Answer provides engagement date but does not confirm specific E. coli levels on the dates asked.my office was fully engaged on September 5 as CFIA had identified the initial batch of contaminated product both in a secondary facility in Calgary and, of course, at the border by the United States.
  7. partly answered
    Food SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.Answer confirms recall date but does not address the two-week gap in plant closure compared to the US.CFIA was acting on the information it had.
  8. misdirected
    Food SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition's comparison to US stats instead of explaining the protection disparity.We will take no lessons from the Liberals.
  9. deflected
    Food SafetyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer agrees on unacceptability but immediately shifts to promoting Bill S-11 without addressing the specific delay.That is why we tabled Bill S-11 , the safe food for Canadians act, last spring.
  10. deflected
    Food SafetyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.Answer accuses questioner of cherry-picking and emphasizes CFIA science without explaining the two-week gap in shutdowns.the member opposite is sort of cherry-picking the timeline.
  11. partly answered
    Food SafetyMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.Answer provides timeline details on notification and actions but ends by pivoting to the bill rather than fully justifying the three-day delay.It turned out to be from the same batch.
  12. deflected
    Food SafetyMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates general priorities and calls for NDP cooperation instead of addressing the failure to warn consumers promptly.I am hopeful the NDP will finally start to work with us and start passing some of these initiatives that we are putting forward.
  13. partly answered
    Food SafetyMr. Philip Toone (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends inspector numbers and explains recall process but does not address why the agency failed to react faster to the crisis.the plant in question has 46 professional CFIA staff members on site on a daily basis.
  14. deflected
    Food SafetyMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer refers to scientific assessment and later recalls but avoids explaining why processing continued despite known deficiencies.We have since gone out with recall notices on those days in question because of the anomalies that were noticed.
  15. deflected
    Food SafetyMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends the existing system and promotes Bill S-11 without committing to changes in self-regulation or compliance enforcement.Bill S-11 will give us more powers, in a more proactive and quicker way, to bring the information that we need to bear as we face situations like this.
  16. deflected
    Food SafetyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer cites budget increases and inspector additions but does not reconcile with the question's cited documents showing cuts.Going back to the budgets up until this point we have increased the CFIA's budgetary capacity by some 20%.
  17. deflected
    Food SafetyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies cuts exist but sidesteps the specific PBO question on CFIA impact.there are no cuts to food safety.
  18. misdirected
    Food SafetyMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer questions the asker's whereabouts instead of addressing the E. coli crisis response.I am not sure where the member has been.
  19. deflected
    Food SafetyMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats no cuts claim but ignores the call to reverse CFIA funding cuts.there are no cuts to the food safety system in the CFIA.
  20. misdirected
    Food SafetyWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer praises a program from the asker's party rather than addressing ministerial accountability.One of the tools it is working with, quite successfully, is the CVS equivalent program that was brought into play by his government in 2005.
  21. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses consultation and existing agreements but not the specific funding allocation or civil disobedience threat.We already have existing comprehensive first nations education agreements in Nova Scotia and British Columbia, which demonstrate improved student outcomes.
  22. answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Francine Raynault (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly counters the three-schools claim with broader investment numbers.We have completed construction on 33 new schools since 2006.
  23. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Ms. Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists actions taken but does not address the request for a national inquiry or Manitoba partnership.We have invested significant resources and law enforcement tools needed to locate missing women, while providing on-reserve, culturally responsive policing services.
  24. misdirected
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Ms. Kerry-Lynne D. Findlay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the NDP voting record instead of outlining next steps from sympathy to action.Unfortunately the NDP, including the member for Churchill , voted against those measures.
  25. misdirected
    Port of MontrealMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the Port of Montreal appointment entirely and instead attacks the questioner's donations to a separatist party.In fact, he not only gave once, he gave 29 times to the separatist Québec solidaire.
  26. misdirected
    Port of MontrealMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again evades the question on Abdallah and pivots to demanding the member affirm his love of Canada.Why does he not come on over and join the Canadian family?
  27. misdirected
    Port of MontrealMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The response sidesteps the corruption allegations and instead questions why the NDP leader would appoint the member as labour minister.the question is, why does the leader of the NDP think that member is the right man for the job of labour minister when he cannot even state his support for Canada?
  28. misdirected
    Port of MontrealMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the detailed questions about pressure and influence as mere yelling and repeats the separatism attack.apparently my hon. friend is following the old rule: when in trouble, yell.
  29. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the pilot project goal but ignores the specific funding cut statistic raised in the question.through the working while on claim pilot project, our government's aim is to encourage EI claimants to pursue and accept more work while collecting employment insurance.
  30. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the same general statement without engaging the repeated funding cut question.Through the working while on claim pilot project, our government's aim is to encourage EI claimants to pursue—
  31. misdirected
    Air TransportationMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). loaded question.The answer reframes the tax question as a request for subsidies and attacks the NDP's carbon tax instead of addressing airport fees.It is rich to hear the New Democrats on this when they want to create a carbon tax of $21 billion.
  32. misdirected
    Air TransportationMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer evades the job loss and market share question by pivoting to a comparison with the US and the carbon tax attack.It is rich to hear them say that they want us to lower taxes, when they want to create a $21 billion carbon tax.
  33. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansLawrence MacAulay (Liberal) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states a position on costs without addressing whether gear tags will remain a federal responsibility.With regard to gear tags, we believe it is the cost of doing business and the people who are doing the business should be responsible for their cost.
  34. answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Claude Patry (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the EI neutrality rule and ongoing efforts to resolve the issue.the employment insurance program is designed to maintain neutrality and not to interfere in labour disputes.
  35. partly answered
    HealthMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes the general process but does not address the specific delay or administrative dispute for the drug.When a doctor makes an application under the program, Health Canada is in contact with that physician within 24 hours.
  36. misdirected
    Foreign InvestmentMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to criticizing the opposition's choice not to debate rather than addressing the order-in-council decision.They have already had two opportunities this week and they chose not to have it debated.
  37. answered
    Business of the HouseMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly addresses the status and intent of Bill S-11 as raised in the question.It was introduced by this government in the Senate to bring about changes that would strengthen our food safety system further following the implementation of the 57 recommendations of the Weatherill report
  38. answered
    Points of OrderMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly quotes and interprets the standing order to address the complaint about SO 31 content.There is nothing saying that the content must be local, there is nothing saying it must be national, there is nothing saying that it cannot touch on policy.
  39. deflected
    Points of OrderMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the right to debate carbon tax but does not engage the core complaint about decorum in SO 31s.Nothing could be more important for a member of Parliament than to stand up for constituents on issues like taxes.