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Wednesday, October 3, 2012 · sitting No. 158
Commons holds emergency debate on XL Foods meat recall
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on an emergency debate on food safety after the opposition forced the adjournment to examine the XL Foods E. coli contamination and recall. Liberal MP Frank Valeriote moved the motion, noting that 23 Canadians have fallen ill and that the Canadian Food Inspection Agency still lacks adequate resources four years after the listeriosis outbreak killed 22 people.
New Democrat MP Malcolm Allen and Liberal MP Wayne Easter pressed the government on inspector numbers and the impact on cattle prices, while Conservative ministers maintained that the agency had acted promptly since September 4 and would keep the Brooks plant closed until safety is assured. The debate continued into the evening after the House agreed to dispense with quorum calls and dilatory motions.
In Question Period the NDP and Conservatives clashed repeatedly over the same recall, with NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair accusing the government of inadequate standards and Prime Minister Stephen Harper defending the CFIA actions.
Decided that day
- Bill on faster removal of foreign criminals read a second time and sent to committee
- Bill C-321 on library materials passed second reading
- Motion urging no decision on foreign investment failed
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Who held the floor · 2012-10-03
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Treasury Board
NDP MP Peggy Nash said less than one-third of departments had detailed the impact of budget cuts and asked why results would not appear until 2014; Treasury Board President Tony Clement replied that quarterly reports and public accounts already provide the required information.
Read the exchangeNational Defence
NDP MP Christine Moore said the Surgeon General had sounded the alarm over reductions in mental health services; Defence Minister Peter MacKay said funding had risen to more than $450 million annually and that Canada ranks best among NATO allies for mental health provider ratios.
Read the exchangeForeign Investment
NDP MP Hélène LeBlanc called for public consultations on the Nexen bid; International Trade Minister Christian Paradis said section 36 of the Investment Canada Act requires confidentiality and that every transaction would be judged on net benefit to Canada.
Read the exchangePort of Montreal
NDP MP Alexandre Boulerice asked why the Prime Minister’s Office pressed for the appointment of Robert Abdallah; Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre said the board, not the government, makes the appointment.
Read the exchangeAboriginal Affairs
Liberal MP Carolyn Bennett said only one in three First Nations students graduates from high school; Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan said the government invests $1.7 billion yearly and has completed 263 school projects since 2006.
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- deflectedFood SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates CFIA actions without addressing whether the process has improved or guarantees no tainted meat remains.
The agency's position is clear: it will not reopen the plant until it can be declared safe.
- deflectedFood SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats CFIA actions and notes prior NDP complaint instead of addressing lack of standards or self-regulation.
Yesterday, the NDP members were complaining about the fact that the plant is closed.
- deflectedFood SafetyThomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts focus to legislation before Parliament and urges support rather than explaining why retailers are not listed.
Those additional powers are contained in legislation presently before Parliament.
- misdirectedFood SafetyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to a general OECD ranking instead of addressing the minister's comments or CFIA warnings.
Canada is one of the best-performing countries in the 2010 Food Safety Performance World Ranking study.
- deflectedFood SafetyMr. Malcolm Allen (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.Answer reiterates CFIA actions and closure without addressing the minister's language or accountability for the recall size.
CFIA closed the plant and it will not be allowed to reopen until the CFIA has certified that it is safe.
- deflectedFood SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer credits the agency with using scientific information but does not address the specific uncertainty about E. coli standards.
It determines them based upon the best scientific information it has and also information it gathers from inspections and from documentation submitted by the various operations that it inspects.
- deflectedFood SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer asserts a strong international record without addressing why E. coli rates are higher or why standards are not in regulation.
Canada's food safety record is among the best in the entire world.
- deflectedFood SafetyBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats CFIA timeline and closure without addressing ministerial presence or timely consumer information.
It has clearly stated that the plant will not reopen until its production is declared safe.
- deflectedTreasury BoardMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to unrelated attacks on opposition and general reporting instead of addressing the PBO comparison or departmental details.
Our public debt is down. Our services to Canadians, such as OAS and health transfers are up, which is much more useful to balance the budget as counter-opposed to the opposition members who want to have a $21 billion carbon tax.
- deflectedTreasury BoardMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates procedures and attacks the PBO's mandate rather than explaining the delayed or missing budget impact details.
I would give some advice to the budget officer. He should spend his time worrying more about his mandate, which is about how we spend money not the money that we do not spend.
- misdirectedFood SafetyMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition's voting record instead of addressing the minister's absence or expanding recall timeline.
If the opposition thinks that the CFIA's powers are inadequate, then it should support the bill our government has introduced to give the agency more powers.
- deflectedFood SafetyMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims early action but immediately shifts to listing opposition votes against funding rather than explaining the 24-day delay.
In 2007 we made available $223 million for the food safety and consumer action plan, and the opposition voted against it
- deflectedFood SafetyMr. François Pilon (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.Answer cites external praise and legislation while ignoring the minister's stated priority on U.S. meat delivery during the crisis.
I have a quote from the Ontario Federation of Agriculture. It has said that Bill S-11 "will better equip Canada to maintain its reputation as a world leader in food safety and traceability protocols".
- partly answeredFood SafetyMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the plant closure and references Weatherill recommendations but adds an attack on opposition votes.
The XL plant was closed by CFIA, and it will not reopen until CFIA determines that it is safe.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer provides funding figures for mental health but does not address the Surgeon General's specific concerns about cuts.
In addition to that, we have made specific investments of $11.4 million to the issues surrounding mental health.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer reiterates increased funding totals but does not engage with the emails or reversal request from the Surgeon General.
There has been a concerted effort of late, led by the Chief of the Defence Staff and by the entire leadership of the Canadian Forces, to see that the $11.4 million goes directly to front-line mental health providers.
- misdirectedNational DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer boasts of NATO rankings and attacks the asker instead of addressing the impact of cuts.
I elicit the support of the member opposite rather than these reckless criticisms.
- partly answeredFood SafetyRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains Bill S-11's relevance to information access but avoids committing to amendments or an Auditor General audit.
Under Bill S-11 , the CFIA would get increased power to get that kind of paperwork for the company.
- deflectedFood SafetyMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to general claims and opposition quotes rather than explaining ministerial silence.
I would ask the member to check with her colleague, the member for Malpeque , who said, "I personally believe that our food is safe in Canada".
- deflectedFood SafetyMr. Frank Valeriote (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer begins redirecting to opposition behavior instead of providing requested staffing data or audit details.
the real question is why is it that the opposition consistently--
- partly answeredForeign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains legal confidentiality and net-benefit review but rejects public consultations as proposed.
We always make decisions in Canada's best interest, but we will not implement a process such as that proposed by the NDP, which would bring us back 30 or 40 years and prevent any form of investment here in Canada.
- misdirectedForeign InvestmentMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker's knowledge of the law and NDP motives instead of addressing accountability.
my colleague is definitely not familiar with section 36 of the act.
- partly answeredForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends past policy changes and scrutiny but does not directly confirm agreement with the colleague.
I will indicate where I do not agree with my colleague across the floor.
- misdirectedForeign InvestmentMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP with an external quote accusing them of opposing investment rather than addressing consultation.
The NDP members are trying to install a process that would ensure we would go back 30 or 40 years, because they are against trade.
- misdirectedPort of MontrealMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner's past political donations instead of addressing the appointment query.
The real question he should be answering is why it is that for over nine years he gave money to the hardest line separatist party in Quebec and its predecessor party
- misdirectedPort of MontrealMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to questioning the NDP's belief in Canada rather than addressing the Port of Montreal appointment.
If you want to sit in the cabinet of Canada, you have to believe in Canada.
- misdirectedPort of MontrealMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to attacking NDP on union donations instead of responding to the Abdallah appointment question.
Speaking of ducking and dodging, those members did not answer the question about their own illegal union donations
- misdirectedPort of MontrealMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer again diverts to NDP donations and bill support rather than addressing the appointment query.
One of them gives money to a separatist party and refuses to stand up and support Canada.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains policy goals but does not address reinstating the allowable earnings provision.
The goal of our working while on claim pilot project is to encourage and help Canadians pursue and accept jobs in their area that will make them better off.
- answeredAboriginal AffairsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly counters with investment figures and outcomes for First Nations education.
Every year we invest $1.7 billion in education for over 117,000 first nation students on reserve.
- deflectedRail TransportationMrs. Carol Hughes (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses general infrastructure investments but avoids specifics on a passenger rail plan.
our government has invested more in infrastructure than any other government in the history of this country.
- partly answeredRail TransportationMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains the business context and government talks but does not outline a protection plan.
We are in talks with the province and with Canadian National to envision the future.
- deflectedForeign InvestmentGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists past changes and scrutiny but pivots to criticizing the prior Liberal record instead of addressing transparency on the CNOOC-Nexen deal.
However, I must remind the House that under the previous Liberal government not a single deal was turned down.
- deflectedTransportMr. Andrew Cash (NDP) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes general transit funding and upcoming plans but avoids any specific commitment to Toronto or the GTA beyond broad national support.
We have supported transit all across Canada with the gas tax fund.
- deflectedCluster MunitionsMs. Ève Péclet (NDP) asked Mr. Bob Dechert (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the legislation and alignment with allies but does not acknowledge or commit to addressing any flaws in Bill S-10.
our legislation fully implements Canada's commitments to the convention and is in line with key allies, including Australia and the United Kingdom.
- deflectedInternational TradeMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims maximum transparency and notes Quebec support but sidesteps the request to disclose concessions or remaining details.
the CETA negotiations, the comprehensive economic and trade agreement with the European Union, are the most open and transparent negotiations in the history of this country.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The response addresses only the parliamentary secretary's earlier statement rather than the request for unanimous consent to table the Senate document.
to respond to that point of order, I simply stated what the member's agriculture critic stated publicly.