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Wednesday, May 16, 2012 · sitting No. 125
NDP motion on budget bill's environmental changes leads supply debate
The House devoted the largest share of the day to a supply motion moved by NDP MP Megan Leslie condemning the budget legislation for weakening environmental assessment and fisheries protections while shifting costs to provinces and territories. Leslie said the bill puts lakes, rivers and ecosystems at risk. Conservative MP David Anderson replied that the government pursues innovation, stewardship and sustainable development and that the legislation receives thorough examination.
In question period NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair and Liberal MP Bob Rae challenged the Prime Minister on old age security changes, asking for cost figures and rejecting claims of unsustainability. Prime Minister Stephen Harper repeated that the budget contains no reductions to pensions and that eligibility changes begin only in 2023. Other exchanges focused on Huawei telecommunications contracts and employment insurance appeal reforms.
Decided that day
- S-4 and S-1003 received royal assent
- C-316 passed third reading
- S-9 advanced to second reading
- C-423 introduced
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Who held the floor · 2012-05-16
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Other moments
Telecommunications
NDP MP Randall Garrison asked Public Safety Minister Vic Toews why Canada allows Huawei to acquire key assets when the United States and Australia have blocked the firm over national security concerns. Toews said all carriers remain subject to Canadian law and that Public Safety Canada is not opposed to spectrum auction participation.
Read the exchangeThe Environment
NDP MP Megan Leslie pressed Environment Minister Peter Kent for an estimate of the long-term cost of climate inaction, noting the National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy had produced such figures. Kent said the government is the first to take real action through its sector-by-sector approach.
Read the exchangeAerospace Industry
NDP MP Kennedy Stewart said MDA laid off 100 employees because the government has not signed a RADARSAT contract and asked Industry Minister Christian Paradis to explain the discrepancy. Paradis replied that the project will proceed in the most cost-effective manner and that a review of the aerospace sector is under way.
Read the exchangeAboriginal Affairs
NDP MP Jean Crowder cited the UN special rapporteur's findings of desperate conditions in First Nations communities and asked Aboriginal Affairs Minister Leona Aglukkaq to act on the recommendations. Aglukkaq called the rapporteur an ill-informed academic and said she had met him that morning.
Read the exchangeDemocratic Reform
Liberal MP Stéphane Dion said Alberta and British Columbia would be under-represented under the government's Senate reform plan and asked why the Prime Minister and Democratic Reform Minister Tim Uppal are weakening those provinces. Uppal replied that Canadians support term limits and elections and urged the opposition to bring the bill to a vote.
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- deflectedPensionsMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids providing the requested amount by denying cuts and emphasizing sustainability.
once again, there are no cuts to people's pensions.
- deflectedPensionsMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Reiterates no cuts without addressing the amount needed for sustainability.
there are no reductions to old age security or other pensions in this budget.
- deflectedTelecommunicationsMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Explains concerns addressed but sidesteps the question of ignoring allies' warnings.
The particular concerns that he raised in fact have been addressed.
- deflectedTelecommunicationsMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Focuses on legal compliance without addressing specific knowledge difference with Americans.
all carriers will continue to be subject to Canadian law.
- misdirectedTelecommunicationsMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Turns to criticizing the opposition's past stance instead of answering the question.
What I find surprising is that member is a member of a party that did not even recognize that there were any security concerns a year or two ago in respect of cyberspace.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Describes the change to appeals but does not provide the regulations requested.
The government is changing the appeals body to find a more efficient way.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Repeats protection by law without specifying the regulations.
Canadians are still protected by the law.
- partly answeredPensionsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses sustainability through growth projection without quantifying savings or explaining the crisis.
These will continue to grow over time. In fact, they are projected to grow three times over the next generation, three times what they are today.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids all details on EI changes by attacking the NDP and restating general talking points about work.
We on this side of the House do not think that Canadians working are, and I quote the leader of the NDP, "a colossal waste".
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides one concrete example of suitable employment but ignores the request for a full outline of the definition.
A mining company in St. John's, Newfoundland is looking to hire 1,500 people through the temporary foreign worker program.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer gives two job-market examples but does not define suitable employment or address the bill's scope.
Another example I will give is that Nova Scotia's recent shipbuilding contract will create over 15,000 jobs over the next 30 years
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMrs. Anne-Marie Day (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer clarifies two limits on suitable employment but stops short of defining the full scope or responding to the attractiveness claim.
we will ensure that Canadians will not be expected to take jobs that are not within their skill set.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Chris Charlton (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer evades the request for a straight answer on EI changes by again quoting and attacking the NDP leader.
as the NDP continues to insult Canadians who want to work, I would like to quote the leader of the NDP once more.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the round-table question and instead attacks the opposition's policy coherence and regional stance.
I would think that the official opposition should get its own house in order and organize its incoherent policy stances before it criticizes this government.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes the government's record but supplies no cost estimate for climate change.
Our sector-by-sector approach to reduce GHGs is working.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses to explain the cost calculations and redirects to the website and carbon-tax talking points.
With regard to the cost of inaction on climate change, those costs would run into many billions of dollars.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids naming any specific programs and instead discusses general economic and environmental goals.
We are not interested in identifying which industries we are going to call diseases and shut down.
- deflectedPensionsScott Brison (Liberal) asked Alice Wong (Conservative). substantive question.The response sidesteps the direct yes/no question about estimates and focuses on sustainability instead.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Avoids providing specific criteria and reiterates general principles.
We need to help the unemployed connect with jobs that they are capable of taking part in.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer does not address the premise of punishing workers or specific programs mentioned.
We also expect people to seek a job that is within their skill set.
- deflectedTelecommunicationsMs. Hélène LeBlanc (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.Responds by emphasizing security but doesn't address the contradiction or why included in budget bill.
We will continue to ensure that Canadians can rely on telecommunications infrastructure that is safe and secure.
- misdirectedTelecommunicationsMr. Dan Harris (NDP) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the source of the question rather than addressing the concern directly.
I would suggest to the member that he not let the CBC do his research for him.
- partly answeredAerospace IndustryMr. Kennedy Stewart (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Provides some explanation on approach but does not fully address the specific issue of contract signing and job losses.
we want to deliver it in the most cost-effective way.
- deflectedAerospace IndustryMs. Laurin Liu (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Shifts focus to past NDP actions instead of answering about committee meeting or job losses.
If it were left up to them, there would be no RADARSAT.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the rapporteur personally instead of addressing the recommendations or conditions described.
I met with the individual this morning and I found him to be an ill-informed, patronizing academic studying aboriginal people, the Inuit and Canada's Arctic from afar.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMr. Jonathan Genest-Jourdain (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer changes subject to global hunger statistics and avoids the Canadian drinking water or rapporteur recommendations.
Sixty-five per cent of the world's hungry live in only seven countries: India, China, Democratic Republic of Congo, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Pakistan and sub-Saharan Africa, where 239 million people are going hungry in the World Food Programme.
- misdirectedNorthern DevelopmentMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). loaded question.Question accuses minister of misleading the House on a false premise; answer pivots to government achievements and attacks NDP/Liberals.
Despite the efforts of the NDP and Liberal membeers, who vote against progress and development in the north, our government is working hard with northerners to ensure they have full, vital, dynamic and strong economic futures.
- deflectedNorthern DevelopmentMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists unrelated programs and past votes against the member rather than addressing federal control over borrowing limits or consultation.
The territorial governments asked for increased borrowing limits; that member voted against that idea.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsCarolyn Bennett (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats personal attack on the rapporteur and ignores the invitation to visit communities or suicide/OxyContin/food strategy.
Again it is an academic studying aboriginal people in Canada's Arctic without ever setting foot on the ground and walking in our kamiks for a day to get a good understanding of the limitations and opportunities we have as aboriginal people in this country.
- answeredThe BudgetJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains the process for providing spending cut details via normal parliamentary reports and estimates.
on this side of the chamber we are following the normal course and normal rules of parliamentary procedure in terms of our quarterly reports, our estimates and all the other ways that we are accountable to this chamber and thence to the people of Canada.
- partly answeredInternational TradeMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the timing of the human rights report but does not confirm whether it will actually assess human rights impacts.
As the agreement had only been in force for the last four and a half months of 2011, there was not enough available data to do a comprehensive analysis.
- deflectedInternational TradeMr. Wayne Marston (NDP) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts focus to economic growth and general engagement instead of committing to an independent human rights assessment in the next report.
unlike the NDP, this government remains focused like a laser beam on the issues that are important to Canadians.
- deflectedDemocratic ReformStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Tim Uppal (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the specific claim about under-representation and instead attacks the opposition for delaying reform.
Frankly, it is not surprising to hear the opposition members say anything to justify dragging their feet on Senate reform and supporting the status quo in the Senate.
- answeredParks CanadaMs. Annick Papillon (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses the fate and location of the artifacts in Quebec.
They will be stored. They will remain in Quebec.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMrs. Carol Hughes (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains the closure of one organization but does not address the loss of data or funding for mental health.
The three elected aboriginal leaders wrote to me and asked me to wind down that organization.
- misdirectedEmployment InsuranceMr. Jean-François Fortin (Bloc) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to past voting records instead of addressing the proposed EI changes or the transfer request.
every policy that we have put forward in the last three budgets to promote jobs and growth in this economy, the member and his colleagues, in fact all members on the other side of the House, have voted against.
- answeredPoints of OrderMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer supplies the factual clarification requested in the point of order.
I was simply giving an example that there were 32,500 people in Newfoundland who were not working—