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Friday, May 11, 2012 · sitting No. 122

Commons debates budget bill amid clashes over defence costs and patronage

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on government orders for the jobs growth and long term prosperity act. Conservative MP Larry Miller said the bill would stimulate the economy through jobs and growth while ensuring long term prosperity. New Democrat MP Kirsty Duncan raised concerns that repeal of the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act would destroy 50 years of environmental safeguards.

Question period featured repeated exchanges on national defence. New Democrat MP David Christopherson said the Libya mission cost 350 million dollars rather than the 50 million dollars cited earlier by the minister. Conservative MP John Baird replied that the mission had been extended twice and that Canadian forces performed exemplary work.

Further questions in the period addressed government appointments and ethics. New Democrat MP Megan Leslie said the public service commission was investigating politically influenced hires at ACOA. Conservative MP Gerald Keddy said strict rules govern hiring and that employment had risen by 58 000 jobs.

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Who held the floor · 2012-05-11

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 49%, opposition 51% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:00Last speech 13:35Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 30 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
35Talk flows, decisions stay parkedThe sitting focused on the Jobs Act and other topics yet produced no votes or completed stages beyond one bill's introduction. Question period yielded mostly deflected or misdirected answers amid five speaker interventions.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Veterans Affairs

Liberal MP Sean Casey asked the minister of national defence for an update on compliance with a Federal Court ruling on veterans pensions. Conservative MP Peter MacKay said the Department of Justice was reviewing the case.

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Citizenship and Immigration

New Democrat MP Sadia Groguhé said cuts to refugee health care were an attack on legitimate refugees. Conservative MP Rick Dykstra said the changes aimed at fairness so no group receives better benefits than Canadians.

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Aerospace Industry

New Democrat MP Paul Dewar asked whether the government would finance RADARSAT 2 and 3. Conservative MP Christian Paradis said the government remained committed to the project and would deliver it cost effectively.

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Employment

New Democrat MP Irene Mathyssen said combining tribunals would leave 70 staff to review 30 000 appeals and grind the system to a halt. Conservative MP Kellie Leitch said the change would create a simple single window for appeals.

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Old Port of Montreal Corporation

Liberal MP Denis Coderre asked the minister of industry whether the Old Port of Montreal Corporation would be placed under Canada Lands Company management. Conservative MP Jacques Gourde said the minister of public works had asked the auditor general for an independent audit.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer opens with a sarcastic promotion remark and joke instead of explaining the cost increase.I am pleased to congratulate my friend from Hamilton on his promotion to deputy leader of the opposition.
  2. deflected
    National DefenceMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general transparency claims without addressing why the plan was classified.just a few short days ago, the Minister of National Defence tabled a significant amount of information in this House for transparency, openness and accountability.
  3. partly answered
    Government AppointmentsMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer notes rules exist but does not address the specific investigation or broken promises.There are strict rules in place concerning hiring to ensure that agencies run their own competitive processes free of political interference.
  4. answered
    EthicsMs. Manon Perreault (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly explains the limited involvement and defends constituent representation.I had a constituent approach my office asking for support for a project to help people with disabilities.
  5. deflected
    EthicsMs. Manon Perreault (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to defending the fund and attacking the NDP instead of addressing the rule change.The NDP voted against the enabling accessibility fund when it was placed as an opportunity for them to support.
  6. answered
    National DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly refutes the premise with specific public documents and postings.
  7. deflected
    National DefenceDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer praises the forces and restates tabling of costs without addressing the minister's accuracy.The minister came forward with the costs associated with the mission.
  8. misdirected
    National DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the premise and pivots to general investments instead of addressing the minister's knowledge.the member and the media's description of this is dead wrong.
  9. deflected
    Government AppointmentsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Mr. Gerald Keddy (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the specific patronage allegations and pivots to unrelated job statistics.The hon. member is ignoring, however, the fact that employment is up in Canada by 58,000 jobs.
  10. deflected
    Government AppointmentsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts blame to NDP actions instead of addressing the elimination of the commission or donor appointments.We did attempt to establish a Public Appointments Commission Secretariat and when we went to put someone in charge, the NDP blocked that.
  11. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks NDP on unrelated robocalls and donations rather than addressing SNC-Lavalin contract ties.Why is the NDP repeating in the House of Commons the same allegations about robocalls when one of their members has already had to apologize?
  12. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses the question as false and pivots to job creation and attacks on the NDP leader.What those members really want to do is make sure that Canadians do not know about the great success that we have had in creating jobs over the last couple of months.
  13. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly counters the claim of insufficient Arctic equipment but does not address broader procurement mismanagement.The Canadian army is very well equipped to participate in various Canadian Forces exercises in the Arctic in both winter and summer conditions.
  14. partly answered
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer rebuts the secrecy claim with evidence of prior public postings but avoids the 'misleading Canadians' accusation.With respect to the investments that we have made, these investments were posted on MERX three years ago, clearly indicating Leopard 2 conversion to AEV, as was previously stated.
  15. misdirected
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition's record on investments and praises the Prime Minister instead of addressing equipment shortages.The member opposite and her party absolutely oppose every investment that we make in the Canadian Forces.
  16. partly answered
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer clarifies the incremental costing timeline for Libya but does not engage the 'hard time being honest' premise.In fact, what I said was that as of October 13, figures that I have received from the department were under $50 million.
  17. deflected
    Firearms RegistryMs. Françoise Boivin (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Hoeppner (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes interference in provincial jurisdiction without evidence and frames a trap; answer attacks the premise and restates federal law compliance instead of addressing provincial sales records.the member opposite is completely incorrect.
  18. deflected
    Canada Revenue AgencyMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). loaded question.Question builds on unsupported 'witch hunt' premise; answer avoids the accusation and restates general support for charities and rules.we agree that charities are a vital part of Canadian society.
  19. deflected
    Canada Revenue AgencyMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes 'outrageous accusations' and demands hearings; answer ignores the demand and pivots to budget measures on transparency.we have announced measures in our budget to provide more education to charities to ensure they are operating within the law
  20. partly answered
    Veterans AffairsMr. Sean Casey (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). rhetorical question.Question is rhetorical mockery about reading the judgment; answer gives a brief factual update on review status without committing on appeal.
  21. deflected
    The BudgetMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes fear of debate and hidden effects; answer ignores transparency issue and pivots to job creation claims.With our economic action plan, we have successfully created more than 58,000 new jobs in the past month.
  22. deflected
    The BudgetMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes lack of transparency in bill; answer avoids the point and restates general economic plan benefits.Our budget seeks to ensure Canada's economic success in the short and medium term, and indeed long-term prosperity.
  23. deflected
    EmploymentMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes underhanded cuts and inefficiency; answer ignores the criticism and describes the new structure positively.This means a simple, more efficient, single window for Canadians to access appeals and the appeals process
  24. misdirected
    EmploymentMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Ms. Kellie Leitch (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes improper power grab; answer calls allegations false then attacks by shifting to unrelated job numbers and urging support.these allegations are simply false.
  25. misdirected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes cuts are political attacks without evidence; answer attacks NDP instead of addressing health access or costs.it would be nice, for once, if the NDP would ask a question, when it comes to immigration, that is on the right side of Canadians instead of the wrong side of Canadians.
  26. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). loaded question.Question asks for cost impact but answer shifts to equality of benefits and attacks the member for not getting facts straight.If you think they deserve more than every Canadian why do you not stand up in the House and acknowledge that?
  27. partly answered
    Aerospace IndustryMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Question seeks yes/no commitment on funding; answer affirms commitment but omits specific yes/no or details on RADARSAT-2/3.it is quite clear we are committed to the RADARSAT project, and this is the bottom line.
  28. deflected
    Aerospace IndustryMs. Hélène Laverdière (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.Question accuses of dithering and brain drain; answer pivots to general science investments without addressing RADARSAT delays or layoffs.on the contrary, measures have been taken to ensure that massive investments were made in the area of science and technology and that there is a brain gain rather than a brain drain.
  29. deflected
    Old Port of Montreal CorporationDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). substantive question.Question asks about Old Port management and speculation risks; answer addresses board departure and audit instead.The Minister of Public Works has asked the Auditor General to conduct an independent audit to get to the bottom of any undue expenses.
  30. deflected
    The BudgetRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.Question requests fix for disability savings eligibility flaw; answer discusses budget bill debate length without addressing the specific issue.There will be seven full days of debate on the budget bill at second reading alone, before being referred to a committee.
  31. deflected
    The BudgetMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Hoeppner (Conservative). loaded question.Question challenges removal of CSIS oversight; answer rejects premise and emphasizes SIRC without explaining accountability change.I reject the premise of the opposition's question.
  32. misdirected
    The BudgetMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Ms. Candice Hoeppner (Conservative). loaded question.Question asks to reverse CSIS oversight changes; answer attacks member's understanding and pivots to job creation numbers.We ask the NDP to look at what we are doing. We are creating jobs. In the last month we have created 58,000 jobs.
  33. deflected
    HealthGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses provincial contracts and government approvals but avoids addressing the voluntary reporting system's failure or Epival availability.Our role is to ensure that drugs are safe before they enter the market.
  34. partly answered
    Financial InstitutionsMr. François Lapointe (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the existing code and attacks the opposition but does not commit to further action on SME demands.We continually monitor compliance.
  35. misdirected
    Manufacturing IndustryMr. Jean-François Larose (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's tax proposals and claims job creation instead of stating actions to prevent plant closures.Doing the opposite, as the NDP is proposing, would kill the economy.
  36. misdirected
    The EconomyMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer mocks the opposition with 'foot-in-the-mouth disease' and highlights jobs rather than explaining the economic term.The problem on the other side is not Dutch disease, it is foot-in-the-mouth disease.