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Monday, May 7, 2012 · sitting No. 118

Commons debates budget bill as NDP seeks to split it

The House of Commons devoted the largest share of its time to second reading debate of Bill C-38, the jobs growth and long-term prosperity act. Conservative MP James Rajotte described the measure as the next step after two years of stimulus spending toward deficit reduction while preserving transfers to provinces and persons. New Democratic Party MP Scott Simms and NDP MP Laurin Liu questioned the impact of employment insurance changes on workers in Newfoundland and the decision not to renew funding for Sustainable Development Technology Canada.

During Question Period New Democratic Party MP Nathan Cullen called on the government to split the more than 400-page bill so that multiple committees could examine its provisions on environmental assessments and fisheries. Conservative MP James Moore replied that the bill had already been before the House since March 29 and that further delay would harm job creation.

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Who held the floor · 2012-05-07

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 52%, opposition 48% of the words spokenPrivate membersGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:30Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 25 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
41Prosperity Act Talked, Nothing PassedThe House devoted the bulk of its time to debate on the Jobs, Growth and Long-term Prosperity Act, yet recorded no votes and advanced only one bill at introduction. Question Period produced mostly deflected answers and a handful of procedural interruptions.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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The Environment

NDP MP Megan Leslie asked the government to retract accusations of money laundering against environmental charities; Conservative MP Gail Shea said new budget measures would increase transparency for donors and ensure compliance with the law.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The BudgetMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes the budget but ignores the request to split the bill.The budget implementation act will be debated more than any other budget implementation act that Parliament has seen in 20 years.
  2. misdirected
    The BudgetMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). rhetorical question.The response shifts to criticizing the NDP instead of addressing parliamentary scrutiny.the only party playing games with this budget is the NDP whose finance critic, in the first week that this budget was debated in the House, spoke the entire week, filibustered the budget bill for over 13 hours of debate and denied any other MP the opportunity to speak on it.
  3. deflected
    The BudgetMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The minister dismisses the question as ridiculous without engaging on splitting the bill.the hon. member's accusations are frankly ridiculous.
  4. deflected
    The BudgetMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer justifies the bill size but does not address the concern about haste or consequences.A large budget begets large budget bills.
  5. answered
    The BudgetMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The response directly addresses the pension changes and denies cuts.there will be no reductions in seniors' pensions.
  6. partly answered
    National DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer asserts services are provided but avoids justifying any cuts mentioned.Our government is proud that in every one of our budgets we have taken measures and adjusted our policies to ensure that our veterans have the services when and where they need them.
  7. answered
    National DefenceBob Rae (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The minister directly states there are no cuts to direct services.there are simply no cuts being made to direct services to veterans.
  8. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The response highlights achievements instead of addressing the UN visit's implications.We look forward to the visit to brief the UN and to make the point that our government has delivered and is delivering.
  9. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the 160-word letter and instead restates the seven-step plan.I would like to remind the member opposite that the Government of Canada has taken action to ensure that all due diligence, oversight and transparency are firmly embedded in the process to replace Canada's aging fighter aircraft.
  10. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Matthew Kellway (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the book and tender demand by repeating acceptance of Auditor General recommendations.the government has said repeatedly that we accept the conclusions of the Auditor General and we are working to implement his recommendation.
  11. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats the seven-step plan without addressing the letter or fifth-generation term criticism.the Government of Canada has taken action to ensure that due diligence, oversight and transparency are fully embedded in the process to replace Canada's aging CF-18 aircraft.
  12. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.Answer sidesteps the competition commitment and rule-breaking claim by stressing transparency steps already taken.our government has been clear that we expect more transparency and increased due diligence before any purchase is to be made.
  13. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the NDP for false allegations instead of addressing Conservative database links.The New Democrats have made false allegations about this on many occasions.
  14. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accuses NDP of defamatory comments rather than responding to IP address or inquiry request.That is what we hear in this House day in and day out from an NDP that has had to apologize time and time again for defamatory comments that it has made in public.
  15. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). loaded question.Answer discusses charity transparency rules without addressing the money-laundering accusation or apology demand.the measures announced in the budget would provide more education to charities to ensure they are operating within the law and more transparency for Canadians who donate so generously to those charities.
  16. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to economic growth and charity compliance without addressing the smear campaign claim.I can assure the hon. member and this House that our focus is on economic growth and long-term prosperity.
  17. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Joe Oliver (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes the legislation's benefits without addressing the accusations of smears or gutting.This legislation will enhance environmental protection, it will create jobs and it will generate billions of dollars of revenue to governments for social programs.
  18. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMr. Scott Simms (Liberal) asked Mr. Dean Del Mastro (Conservative). loaded question.The response shifts focus to alleged Liberal misconduct instead of addressing the call for a royal commission.We are aware of concerns that have been raised in the local campaign involved, but we were also made aware of the deliberate attempt by the Liberal Party to mislead voters in Guelph
  19. misdirected
    41st General ElectionMs. Lise St-Denis (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal Party's actions rather than addressing the request to share information with authorities.It is the only party that has a member—the member for Guelph —that admitted to having made calls to voters using a false name and number.
  20. deflected
    The EnvironmentRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses the general role of charities without defining money laundering or providing examples as asked.However, in order to protect Canadian interests we have a duty to ensure that these organizations are operating properly and spending their resources appropriately.
  21. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses investments in food security but ignores the UN rapporteur visit and refusal to meet.since 2006, our government has invested significantly in shared priorities with first nations to access healthy and affordable food, housing, education, water infrastructure and economic opportunity.
  22. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Ruth Ellen Brosseau (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer notes officials will meet the rapporteur but does not address ministers declining meetings.we certainly are talking about this issue with the rapporteur.
  23. partly answered
    HealthMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes participation in the launch but does not commit to implementing or funding the strategy.The report will highlight that everyone has a role in addressing mental health, --all levels of government, non-governmental organizations, the private sector, as well as charitable organizations.
  24. partly answered
    HealthMr. Guy Caron (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer references general funding to provinces but avoids committing to implement or specifically fund the new strategy.From our side, to help achieve the objectives of the Mental Health Commission, we have committed to providing long-term stable funding to the provinces and territories that will see health transfers to each jurisdiction reaching $40 billion.
  25. answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Rosane Doré Lefebvre (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The minister directly states he instructed officers to exclude him from the decision.I spoke with officers from the department to tell them that I did not wish to be involved in any way in the matter
  26. misdirected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMr. Randall Garrison (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's past positions instead of addressing the question about Black.The reality is that the NDP leader intervened to seek political privilege for a convicted cop shooter in the United States
  27. answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMs. Jinny Jogindera Sims (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The minister explains the new independent appointment process for IRB members.We are, in fact, completely depoliticizing the process for the refugee protection division.
  28. answered
    Citizenship and ImmigrationMrs. Sadia Groguhé (NDP) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). loaded question.The minister states there is no favouritism and describes the independent IRB appointment system.
  29. deflected
    The BudgetScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general budget goals without addressing splitting the bill for study or votes.economic action plan 2012, which is the budget, is all about promoting jobs and growth and long-term prosperity in Canada
  30. answered
    Veterans AffairsMr. Sean Casey (Liberal) asked Steven Blaney (Conservative). substantive question.The minister confirms he instructed the tribunal to implement the ombudsman's recommendations.I have instructed the tribunal to act upon those recommendations
  31. deflected
    Official LanguagesMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the delay without confirming when or whether the committee will be created.we are not going to rush into taking a hit-and-miss kind of approach
  32. deflected
    Official LanguagesMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The minister denies making a promise and restates the need for a thoughtful process.I have never publicly committed to anything of the kind
  33. deflected
    Canada Mortgage and Housing CorporationJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains mortgage renewal options but avoids addressing the request to instruct CMHC on the specific rate complaint.When the mortgages come up for renewal, they have every right and every freedom to go and pursue financing from other sources at today's better rates.
  34. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Pierre Dionne Labelle (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes ongoing cadet support in general but sidesteps the specific closure of the francophone camp and its rationale.there will be as many or more cadets attending camp this summer.
  35. deflected
    Canadian HeritageMr. Pierre Nantel (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes an attack on heritage with loaded phrasing, while the answer denies it and pivots to unrelated investments and digitization.
  36. deflected
    Parks CanadaMr. Jean-François Fortin (Bloc) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights general government commitment to parks but does not justify the specific job losses or artifact relocations mentioned.In fact, no other government has done more to protect our natural spaces and our history and our historic sites than any government before us.