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Wednesday, October 5, 2011 · sitting No. 27

Commons opens debate on budget implementation bill

The House spent the largest share of the sitting on second reading of Bill C-13, the Keeping Canada's Economy and Jobs Growing Act. Minister of State Ted Menzies opened the debate by presenting the bill as the next phase of the economic action plan and a response to current global challenges. NDP MP Pierre Dionne Labelle and Liberal MP John McCallum pressed the government on family debt levels and the exclusion of low-income Canadians from non-refundable tax credits.

Question period featured repeated exchanges on corporate tax cuts, the proposed Champlain Bridge replacement and perimeter security talks with the United States. NDP MPs Libby Davies, Thomas Mulcair and Brian Masse and Liberal MP Bob Rae challenged the government on manufacturing job losses, tolls on the new bridge and sovereignty concerns. Prime Minister Stephen Harper and ministers Christian Paradis, John Baird and Ed Fast defended the measures as necessary for growth and security.

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Who held the floor · 2011-10-05

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 49%, opposition 51% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:15Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 4 h 10 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
64Bills Advance Amid Deflected AnswersThe sitting focused largely on the economy bill and saw several new bills introduced or advanced to second reading. Question period produced mostly deflected replies and eleven calls to order, with no votes recorded.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

G8 Summit

Liberal MP Judy Foote asked whether Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird or his former staff had spoken with the RCMP about the use of border infrastructure funds for projects in Parry Sound—Muskoka.

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Canadian Wheat Board

NDP MP Pat Martin questioned Agriculture Minister Gerry Ritz on the costs of dismantling the Canadian Wheat Board and warned of disruption to the prairie economy.

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Aboriginal Affairs

NDP MP Linda Duncan pressed Aboriginal Affairs Minister John Duncan on the government's failure to assess cumulative environmental impacts on First Nations communities near the oil sands.

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Fisheries and Oceans

NDP MP Fin Donnelly asked Fisheries Minister Keith Ashfield why the government had withdrawn from the Pacific north coast integrated management area process.

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National Defence

Liberal MP John McKay challenged Associate Minister of National Defence Julian Fantino on the true cost of the F-35 aircraft after a Lockheed Martin representative cited a $65-million unit price.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    TaxationMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes tax measures and attacks NDP opposition instead of addressing manufacturing job losses or canceling cuts.There are measures right now before the House of Commons to give specific tax allowances and specific tax breaks to the manufacturing sector.
  2. deflected
    TaxationMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights job creation and criticizes NDP votes without addressing the priority of unemployed Canadians over banks.What I do not understand is that when we put job creation measures before the House, such as the new tax credit for new hires and incentives for manufacturers, why the NDP, which apparently has no economic ideas at all to propose, just simply stands in the way and votes against these things for Canadian families.
  3. deflected
    TaxationMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites the economic action plan and job measures while ignoring the request to restore balance and address manufacturing job losses.The House of Commons has before it proposals that would create jobs: a tax credit for new hires and tax reductions for businesses and manufacturers.
  4. partly answered
    Champlain BridgeMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the use of tolls and public-private partnership to avoid taxpayer costs but does not address why tolls are needed on an existing free crossing.The manner in which we will proceed with our partners and the private sector will ensure that the construction does not result in additional costs to taxpayers.
  5. misdirected
    Champlain BridgeMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer quotes supporters and attacks the NDP's stance on private sector involvement instead of explaining the tolls.We understand that the NDP does not do business with the private sector; perhaps it hates doing so.
  6. partly answered
    Champlain BridgeBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes positive reactions and intent to work with partners but does not address the lack of a Quebec presence or real plan.We will work with our partners in the public and private sectors to get the new bridge built.
  7. deflected
    Canada-U.S. RelationsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims openness to scrutiny but pivots to criticizing opposition positions without assuring tabling of the agreement.Because the opposition loses the debate does not mean we did not have a debate.
  8. misdirected
    Canada-U.S. RelationsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer corrects the premise and attacks a former NDP leader instead of addressing the listed U.S. protectionism issues.Only a former leader of the NDP would say that when we face American protectionism, the solution to that is to cut our own access off to the American market.
  9. deflected
    President of the Treasury BoardMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses project access and transparency but sidesteps the specific claim that the Auditor General was misled.She came forward and made some observations on how we could do a better job to be even more transparent to Parliament, and we have completely accepted her good advice.
  10. deflected
    President of the Treasury BoardMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists project outcomes without addressing the accountability or ethical-lapse accusations.32 projects were supported by Infrastructure Canada; 32 projects were built; 32 projects came in on time and on budget; 32 projects all in the public sector are now at the disposal and benefit of the province, the community and municipalities in that region.
  11. misdirected
    President of the Treasury BoardMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's record on access-to-information instead of addressing the minister's emails or the mayor's statements.The first time in Canadian history a party stood up and voted to bring the cloak of darkness back on a public corporation and it was the NDP that did that with the Canadian Wheat Board.
  12. deflected
    President of the Treasury BoardMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer praises government transparency laws while ignoring the specific question about hiding information.The fact that all of these email exchanges were released shows just how open and transparent things are.
  13. answered
    International TradeMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the government's position on the tariff and actions taken with U.S. counterparts.I have made this clear to FMC Commissioner Lidinsky as well as to my USTR counterpart Ambassador Kirk.
  14. partly answered
    International TradeMr. Mathieu Ravignat (NDP) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). loaded question.The answer mentions ongoing diplomatic efforts but avoids explaining why the tariff was allowed to proceed.While the member opposite engages in unhelpful rhetoric, both my parliamentary secretary as well as the chairman of the international trade committee are on the ground in Washington, D.C. today raising this very issue with their counterparts.
  15. deflected
    International TradeMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked Ed Fast (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to the election mandate instead of addressing negotiation concerns or the perimeter deal.on May 2 Canadians gave the government a very strong mandate to focus on economic growth and the creation of jobs.
  16. deflected
    Canada-U.S. RelationsMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies media reports and promises future disclosure without addressing sovereignty or privacy concerns.Reports that are in the media about a deal being accomplished are inaccurate.
  17. deflected
    Canada-U.S. RelationsMr. Sylvain Chicoine (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the cost and funding question by noting no deal exists yet and pivots to NDP trade views.The NDP member has not seen the agreement, yet he is already against it.
  18. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.Answer sidesteps current failures by attacking prior Liberal Kyoto record instead of addressing cuts or reductions.the Kyoto protocol, which was one of the greatest blunders of the previous Liberal government, was in Canada's rear view mirror.
  19. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberal record and quotes commissioner positively rather than addressing scientist cuts or monitoring capacity.I am delighted to compare, any day, our government's record on the environment with that of the previous Liberal government, which did nothing but pay lip service to its professed commitment to the environment.
  20. deflected
    G8 SummitMs. Judy Foote (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores RCMP query and staff contacts, instead noting infrastructure delivery and Auditor General advice.All 32 came in on time and all 32 came in on budget.
  21. misdirected
    Canadian Wheat BoardMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer dismisses the cost and disruption concerns by attacking the member's preferred tactics and urging value-added focus.instead of the political stunts that he prefers.
  22. deflected
    Canadian Wheat BoardMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.Answer acknowledges issues but pivots to criticizing NDP government and preferring farm groups over addressing port or election impacts.I prefer to work with the farmers of Manitoba than an NDP government that has gone past its best before date.
  23. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses aboriginal accommodation near oil sands via co-operative arrangements but does not address cumulative impacts or Crown honour.my department officials have been working closely with the communities that are near the Athabasca oil sands to make sure the aboriginal interests are accommodated.
  24. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked John Duncan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer notes shared responsibility and trilateral work but does not justify tax breaks or address incomplete environmental data.We continue to work on a trilateral basis with the province and aboriginal groups.
  25. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to reporting rules instead of addressing the action plan or cuts mentioned.our government complies fully with the reporting requirements of the Kyoto Protocol Implementation Act, but there is no obligation in this act for financial reporting.
  26. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.Mentions positive aspects of the report and a plan but evades agreeing to the recommendations.I lament the fact that she fails to recognize the positive words the environment commissioner offered, both on our monitoring plans for the water, the air and the biodiversity of the Lower Athabasca and our commitment to the Copenhagen and Cancun accords.
  27. answered
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). substantive question.Directly states ongoing commitment to the integrated management plan and partners.this government remains fully committed to developing an integrated management plan for the Pacific north coast by December 2012.
  28. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMr. Fin Donnelly (NDP) asked Keith Ashfield (Conservative). loaded question.Restates commitment without addressing cooperation issues or why the process was halted.We have committed to the plan for the Pacific north coast by December 2012.
  29. deflected
    National DefenceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores cost disputes and other nations' positions, pivots to general need for aircraft.all reasonable people agree that Canada needs aircraft in order to defend Canadian sovereignty.
  30. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Marc Garneau (Liberal) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). substantive question.Turns to previous Liberal government instead of addressing the two cost or quantity options posed.This is an initiative that goes back to the days of the Liberal government.
  31. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Avoids the contradiction and PM question, restates budget and aircraft benefits.Our budget for the F-35s remains on track.
  32. deflected
    National DefenceMs. Christine Moore (NDP) asked Julian Fantino (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores cost admission and fiasco claim, emphasizes aircraft importance instead.the F-35 aircraft is the one item that is absolutely critical and helps to ensure that we will maintain our sovereignty well into the future.
  33. deflected
    Science and TechnologyMr. Ted Hsu (Liberal) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses general investments in science without addressing the NRC reorganization or specific researchers mentioned.no government in the history of Canada has invested so much in science and technology.
  34. partly answered
    PensionsMs. Mylène Freeman (NDP) asked Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains federal actions taken but does not address the question about future changes to protect pensions beyond federal jurisdiction.we actually did put forward legislation to help protect those pensions that the hon. member is referring to.
  35. deflected
    Human ResourcesMr. Robert Aubin (NDP) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses general youth programs but avoids the specific Art-Go funding cut and Senate comparison.our government has done a lot to help youth develop the skills they need to enter the workforce.
  36. answered
    Shipbuilding IndustryMr. Jean-François Fortin (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the arm's-length process and confirms no political involvement in shipyard selection.this is an arm's-length competitive process that is managed by the shipbuilding secretariat.
  37. deflected
    Points of OrderMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Mr. Brent Rathgeber (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer stands by the original statement without engaging the complaint about the Elizabeth Fry Society.