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Thursday, November 18, 2010 · sitting No. 99

Liberals press motion to scrap untendered F-35 deal

The House spent half the sitting on an opposition motion moved by Liberal MP Dominic LeBlanc that calls on the government to cancel its plan to buy F-35 fighter jets without a competitive tender and to hold an open competition instead. The motion remained before the House at adjournment.

In Question Period, Liberal MP Ralph Goodale pressed the government House leader on the loss of the Camp Mirage base in the United Arab Emirates and the resulting costs to taxpayers. Conservative MP John Baird replied that the government had acted to protect Canadian interests.

Decided that day

  • S-9 received royal assent

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Who held the floor · 2010-11-18

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 36%, opposition 64% of the words spokenGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:00Last speech 17:10Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 5 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
57Supply debates nudge three bills aheadMost of the sitting was consumed by extended business-of-supply debate, though three bills advanced through minor stages and substantive discussion accounted for over 90 percent of words spoken. Question period yielded few direct answers and no votes were held.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Democratic Reform

Conservative MP Steven Fletcher said the NDP had withdrawn support for Bill C-10 on Senate term limits in retaliation rather than to improve Parliament.

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Afghanistan

Bloc Québécois MP Claude Bachand accused the government of silencing Quebec voices by excluding opponents of the extended mission from the NATO delegation to Lisbon.

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G8 and G20 Summits

Liberal MP Maria Minna asked why the government would not release OPP spending figures on the summits before the Vaughan byelection.

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The Environment

Bloc Québécois MP Bernard Bigras said the government was going to Cancun without a credible plan after the Senate defeated Bill C-311.

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Veterans Affairs

Liberal MP Francis Valeriote said the average lump-sum payment to veterans remained inadequate despite the government's new bill.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    National DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing the request for an admission by restating a general cabinet responsibility instead.At cabinet, the Government of Canada has an important responsibility to stand up and do what is best for Canada, and that is exactly what we did in this regard.
  2. deflected
    National DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the specific accusations by reiterating a broad responsibility to Canada without engaging the details.The deal that was in front of us was not of net benefit to Canada, which is why we could not sign on.
  3. misdirected
    National DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the Liberal Party rather than addressing the question about admitting a mistake.why is it that every time Canada gets into a disagreement with another country the Liberal Party of Canada rushes to the microphones as quickly as possible and stands up to defend the other country?
  4. deflected
    National DefenceDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes industry benefits and quotes support but does not address why no open Canadian competition was held.We need to move forward on this critical investment for our military and for our industry in order to continue to reap the benefits from being part of this international program.
  5. misdirected
    National DefenceDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's past record and shifts to a positive company visit instead of addressing the call for competition.It was his government that had the competition on the F-35 and at the time the hon. member was all in favour of it.
  6. deflected
    HydroelectricityMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the PPP Canada process but avoids confirming whether assistance will or will not be provided.applications are assessed on their merit.
  7. deflected
    HydroelectricityMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats that applications are assessed on merit without confirming exclusion of funding for the specific project elements.Applications are assessed on their merit.
  8. deflected
    HydroelectricityMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses PPP Canada and private solutions but does not address the claim of penalizing Quebec.We are encouraged that it is looking at a private sector solution for this sort of investment.
  9. deflected
    HydroelectricityMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.The answer denies the premise outright then pivots to attacking the Bloc's motives rather than addressing federal hydro investments.Once again we see that the Bloc Québécois is trying to stir up trouble over energy issues.
  10. misdirected
    National DefenceJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the Camp Mirage and troop-support question and instead attacks the asker for not listening to union leaders.Why does the leader of the NDP not listen to Ken Lewenza, the national president of the Canadian Auto Workers?
  11. misdirected
    National DefenceJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the vote and mission-extension question by accusing the NDP of supporting a foreign corporation.Why is the leader of the NDP standing behind a foreign-owned, state-controlled foreign corporation instead of behind the working men and women of the CAW and of CUPE?
  12. partly answered
    National DefenceJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the mission-extension rationale but ignores the demand for a vote and the secret-deal allegation.That is why, while ending the combat mission, a training mission will continue.
  13. deflected
    G8 and G20 SummitsMaria Minna (Liberal) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites the December deadline and shifts blame by questioning whether Liberals would accuse their own Ontario premier.Are the federal Liberals really suggesting that our Premier McGuinty would permit the OPP to waste taxpayer money?
  14. deflected
    G8 and G20 SummitsMaria Minna (Liberal) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the timing concern and pivots to an unrelated claim that costs are under budget.the silly season opposite will end on November 29, but we do understand from public statements made by the OPP that in fact its costs are expected to come in well under budget.
  15. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the Cancun plan question by quoting unrelated criticism of the bill and NDP instead.Why will the member for Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie not listen to my friend from Ottawa South ?
  16. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the Copenhagen accord and joint actions but does not discuss transparency or African/European plans.we have signed on to the Copenhagen accord, as have some 138 countries around the world.
  17. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the accusation outright without engaging the substance of silencing voices.Mr. Speaker, that is not true and it is totally ridiculous.
  18. answered
    AfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the post-2011 mission is training only and thus requires no parliamentary vote.If we were sending troops into a war situation again, we would put the matter before Parliament.
  19. answered
    Government AdvertisingMs. Ruby Dhalla (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accepts the premise as unacceptable and states corrective action was ordered.we agree that this is totally unacceptable and completely outrageous.
  20. deflected
    Government AdvertisingMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats unacceptability but ignores the request for a female member to respond.I believe we have made it clear that we find it unacceptable.
  21. partly answered
    Veterans AffairsMr. Francis Valeriote (Liberal) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer covers new legislation and funding but does not address the adequacy of the existing lump-sum payment.We will be injecting $2 billion to support our veterans.
  22. answered
    Veterans AffairsMr. Francis Valeriote (Liberal) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains measures to identify and assist homeless veterans through reporting and local support.we recently implemented support measures in Montreal and Toronto to identify these people and to provide them with the services to which they are entitled.
  23. deflected
    The EnvironmentMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to Senate reform instead of addressing climate policy or Cancun.If the member opposite does not like the actions of the Senate, I urge her to stand in her place and support our government's agenda to elect the Senate, to stand in her place and limit Senate terms to eight years and to stand in her place and do the right thing.
  24. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer again diverts to Senate elections rather than committing to pollution targets.If the member opposite wants to stand in his place and criticize unelected senators making decisions, we could end it all today.
  25. partly answered
    Quebec City ArenaMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the funding process but does not commit to a December 31 announcement.That being said, when an application for funding is submitted to us, we will review it very carefully and render a decision in a manner that is fair and affordable for the entire country.
  26. answered
    City of LévisMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly corrects the funding amount and affirms the allocation.The city of Lévis will receive $1,750,000 for its celebrations next year.
  27. deflected
    Nortel PensionersMrs. Lise Zarac (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites the need for further study without supporting the bill.We need to continue studying the issue.
  28. misdirected
    Nortel PensionersMrs. Lise Zarac (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner for allegedly advising to break the law instead of addressing the bill.If the hon. member is advising us to break the law, why does she not stand in her place to do that?
  29. deflected
    PovertyMr. Tony Martin (NDP) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.The answer promotes the jobs strategy but does not announce a national poverty plan.we do have a national strategy and that is to create jobs.
  30. partly answered
    Mining IndustryMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer offers meetings and context but does not apologize or commit to saving the jobs.I have offered to have a meeting with the MP herself at the appropriate time so that we can confer on this situation as well.
  31. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationGurbax Malhi (Liberal) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses the visa system in general terms without addressing high refusal rates or specific reforms.We do in fact, on occasion, make sure that it is working, make sure that improvements that are made to it are done effectively and efficiently,
  32. misdirected
    Victims of CrimeMs. France Bonsant (Bloc) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the bill and opposition plans rather than explaining the refusal to support families of victims.It would allow thousands of EI dollars to be spent to care for a young criminal who might have been injured in the process of committing a crime.
  33. deflected
    Amateur SportsMr. Glenn Thibeault (NDP) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to Olympic pride and defers to Hockey Canada instead of addressing funding cuts or government action.this being the first question I have been asked since the Olympics, I am very proud to remind the House that we won 14 gold medals,
  34. deflected
    Citizenship and ImmigrationGurbax Malhi (Liberal) asked Mr. Rick Dykstra (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights overall immigration openness without addressing fraudulent marriages or closing loopholes.We have welcomed more Canadians to this country from other lands than ever before in the history of Canada.
  35. deflected
    Tobacco ProductsMs. Megan Leslie (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes existing tobacco measures but avoids the cancellation of label updates and lobby criticism.Our government is committed to protecting the health and safety of Canadian children from the damages of tobacco.
  36. partly answered
    Business of the HouseMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer details upcoming business but only promises to follow up on the S.O. 31 remarks.let me make an undertaking to my colleague, the House leader of the official opposition, to make enquiries into that and respond to him in short order.