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Wednesday, November 17, 2010 · sitting No. 98

Debate opens on bill to limit Senate terms to eight years

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on second reading of Bill C-10, the Constitution Act 2010 that would cap new senators at eight-year non-renewable terms. Bloc Québécois MP Serge Cardin said the change still requires provincial consent under the Constitution and warned it would not address the chamber's core defects. Conservative minister Steven Fletcher replied that the measure mirrors the 1967 shift from life tenure to age 75 and enjoys 71 per cent support in Quebec.

Question Period featured sharp exchanges on the unelected Senate's defeat of climate legislation passed by the Commons. NDP Leader Jack Layton accused the government of breaking repeated promises on Senate appointments and foreign military missions, while Prime Minister Stephen Harper defended the action as necessary to protect jobs and said the NDP itself once sought to appoint senators through a coalition.

Decided that day

  • C-40 received royal assent
  • S-12 passed second reading

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2010-11-17

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 33%, opposition 67% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment businessPrivate members▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:30Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 4 h 25 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
66Bills creep forward, answers mostly dodgeSeveral bills advanced through stages including one receiving royal assent while the House spent most time on Senate term limits and other topics. Question period produced few direct answers and no votes were recorded.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

National Defence

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff pressed the government to hold a competitive bid for the $16-billion F-35 fleet, saying Canadians reject sole-source buying. Prime Minister Stephen Harper countered that the previous Liberal government had already run a competitive process and funded development of the aircraft.

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G8 and G20 Summits

Liberal MP Geoff Regan asked why the government has not submitted Ontario Provincial Police costs for the G8 and G20 summits to the government operations committee. Conservative minister Vic Toews replied that the OPP has until December 1 to file its figures and expects to come in under budget.

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Afghanistan

Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe charged that extending the Afghan training mission beyond 2011 violates the government's 2005 platform and 2007 throne-speech commitments to a parliamentary vote. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said no combat role is involved and training will occur on bases and in classrooms.

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Infrastructure

Liberal MP John McCallum said Infrastructure Canada released less than 25 per cent of economic-action-plan funds last year and now risks cutting projects short with an arbitrary deadline. Conservative minister Chuck Strahl replied that provinces must submit invoices before Ottawa can pay and that 430,000 jobs have already been created.

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Free Public Transit for Seniors Act

Liberal MP Marcel Proulx introduced Bill C-449 to let municipalities offer free public transit to seniors through a federal trust fund. Conservative MP Cathy McLeod questioned the cost in rural ridings with no transit service and asked where the money would come from.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    National DefenceMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats a past process claim without addressing the call for a new competitive bid.this plane was selected through a competitive process under the previous Liberal government.
  2. deflected
    National DefenceMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats prior talking points and accuses the opposition of playing politics rather than addressing the bidding issue.The opposition is simply playing politics with the lives of air force members and with jobs in the Canadian aerospace industry.
  3. misdirected
    National DefenceMichael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition leader and party instead of responding to the value-for-money and bidding concerns.If the Leader of the Opposition is serious about talking to Canadians, he can go to Montreal or he can go to Winnipeg, like I did.
  4. deflected
    G8 and G20 SummitsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses the submission deadline and budget expectations but avoids explaining why documents are not released.the arrangement with the OPP is that it has until December 1 of this year to submit all of their G8 and G20 expenses.
  5. partly answered
    AfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the non-combat nature of the mission but sidesteps the commitment to hold a vote.we have never voted on a non-combat military mission.
  6. answered
    AfghanistanMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly states the location of training activities in response to the combat-zone claim.The training will take place on military bases and in classrooms.
  7. deflected
    AfghanistanMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights development successes without addressing the funding imbalance or mission classification.We now have more than two million girls in school.
  8. deflected
    AfghanistanMs. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines the mission plan and achievements but avoids the request for a debate and vote.our plan going forward is to ensure that the Afghan people and the world are more secure by not enabling Afghanistan to be a home for terrorists.
  9. deflected
    AfghanistanJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to the non-combat nature of the mission instead of addressing the broken promise on a parliamentary vote.the government has never voted on a non-combat mission such as this.
  10. deflected
    The EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer criticizes the bill's content but avoids the question of using senators to block the House's will.Conservatives have been very consistent and very clear in their opposition to Bill C-311 , a completely irresponsible bill.
  11. misdirected
    The EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters by attacking the NDP leader's coalition attempt rather than addressing the listed broken promises.this is a man who after the election set out to form a coalition to overturn the results of that election so he could appoint members to the Senate.
  12. deflected
    Government SpendingMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Denis Lebel (Conservative). substantive question.The answer justifies advertising as informing Canadians but does not address the comparison to beer industry spending or waste.our government has always believed that it is important to inform Canadians of its accomplishments.
  13. deflected
    Government SpendingMrs. Alexandra Mendes (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses external pressures and spending reductions but ignores the specific claim about victim support ads versus program funding.there is not only a freeze, there is an $11 million reduction on advertising pertaining to these ministers' offices.
  14. deflected
    Government SpendingMs. Siobhan Coady (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends informing the public on specific issues but sidesteps the record advertising spend and deficit question.most Canadians think it is a valid expenditure when we have something like a pandemic of H1N1, to inform Canadians about that.
  15. deflected
    Government SpendingMs. Siobhan Coady (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer rejects the beer industry comparison and reiterates spending freezes without addressing the waste or deficit.I do not know what the Liberals' fascination is with raising the bar related to the beer industry.
  16. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines Canada's goals at COP 16 but does not address whether the minister will attend.at COP 16, Canada seeks an outcome that includes commitments from all the major emitters and reflects the balance achieved with the Copenhagen accord.
  17. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates government goals on climate without addressing attendance at Cancun.Canada will continue to work toward outcomes that include funding, deforestation, adaptation, technology, mitigation commitments from all the major emitters.
  18. partly answered
    Securities IndustryMr. Daniel Paillé (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer identifies who held discussions but does not name who signed the November 10 agreement.In fact, those discussions also took place when I was there previously, in 2007, and the agreements were signed with the appropriate regulatory authorities in Canada.
  19. deflected
    Securities IndustryMr. Daniel Paillé (Bloc) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the attack on federal involvement by restating the voluntary and court-pending status.The Supreme Court of Canada will deal with the jurisdictional issue in April of next year and then we will have confirmation with respect to the legislative authority of Parliament on this subject.
  20. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to criticizing the prior Liberal government instead of addressing the lack of a plan.it is this government that always stands up for a cleaner environment and is cleaning up the mess left by the previous Liberal government.
  21. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member's attendance record rather than responding to the climate performance critique.It is very unfortunate that the member did not attend the meetings that he was supposed to attend.
  22. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses water monitoring but ignores the question on emission targets and a full-time minister.That panel will report whether what we are doing is world class, and if it is not, it will be improved.
  23. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Francis Scarpaleggia (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refers back to the prior panel response without addressing a minimum water level prohibition.the member is well aware of the panel of leading scientists.
  24. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer reframes the mission as non-combat training without addressing the broken promise of a parliamentary vote.The reality is that this is now a non-combat role, thus not requiring the same type of resolution that we saw in the previous Parliament.
  25. partly answered
    AfghanistanMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses school construction numbers but ignores teacher training targets and reconciliation progress.In fact, we have now completed 26 schools and the remaining schools are currently under construction.
  26. answered
    Families of Victims of CrimeMs. France Bonsant (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.Directly explains opposition to the bill by citing its provisions on benefits to criminals.It is important to note that, under that bill, if a criminal is injured while committing a crime, his or her family would be eligible for employment insurance benefits to care for that criminal.
  27. misdirected
    Families of Victims of CrimeMrs. Maria Mourani (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the budget and fund questions and instead attacks the Bloc's voting record on other bills.While the member is on her feet, maybe she could explain why those members support mandatory minimum sentences for white collar crime, but they voted against mandatory sentencing for the people who are convicted of trafficking children.
  28. partly answered
    InfrastructureJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.Explains the billing process but does not address the low disbursement rate or the arbitrary deadline.The jobs start right away, people get employed, and the economy gets stimulated, 430,000 new jobs.
  29. misdirected
    InfrastructureJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the investment and job creation questions and instead attacks the Liberal Party with an analogy.I will tell the House who would do that. The Liberal Party of Canada would do it.
  30. deflected
    Mining IndustryMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Changes subject to positive investments elsewhere instead of addressing the Thompson closure and net benefit claim.I understand that today Vale made an announcement about a $10 billion, that is billion with a "b", further investment throughout Canada, where it has Canadian operations.
  31. misdirected
    Mining IndustryMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the request for a meeting and instead highlights the $10B investment while attacking the member's voting record.The hon. member talks about helping Thompson, Manitoba, yet she voted with her caucus and with her party.
  32. partly answered
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). substantive question.Claims extensions were given but does not address the original promise that repayments would wait until prices improve.They are both excited about the extensions we have given them on the cash advances.
  33. deflected
    Public Works and Government ServicesMs. Meili Faille (Bloc) asked Rona Ambrose (Conservative). loaded question.The answer states general compliance without addressing the specific allegations of silencing or the call for an inquiry.we always follow all of the contracting regulations in place with the Government of Canada.
  34. partly answered
    Expo 2017Ms. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The response explains due diligence and concerns but does not commit to endorsement or address the location of MPs.We are doing our due diligence and we will give our response to the city very soon.
  35. misdirected
    Agriculture and Agri-FoodWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Gerry Ritz (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner personally and offers quotes instead of addressing the request for immediate dollars.the member thinks he can decry the bureaucrats by putting on a ridiculous disguise, but he cannot get away with it.