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Monday, October 5, 2009 · sitting No. 90

Commons debates Afghanistan report as trade bill advances

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on concurrence in the foreign affairs committee report on Afghanistan. Members discussed Canada's mission, political reconciliation and development challenges during the extended debate.

Government orders on the Canada-Colombia free trade agreement implementation act occupied the next largest block of time. Liberal MP Shawn Murphy and NDP MP Peter Stoffer clashed over whether human rights provisions belong in the main text of the agreement.

Question period featured exchanges on the economy, consular cases abroad and the CINAR investigation. Conservative ministers defended fiscal projections and consular handling while opposition members pressed for greater transparency.

Decided that day

  • S-241 introduced
  • S-242 introduced
  • C-37 given second reading
  • C-32 sent to Senate
  • C-453 introduced
  • C-454 introduced

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Who held the floor · 2009-10-05

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 32%, opposition 68% of the words spokenPrivate membersGovernment businessQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedings▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:25Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 20 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
60Bills Creep Forward Amid Committee TalkThe sitting devoted over half its time to committee business and the Colombia trade bill, with several private members' bills introduced and two others advancing one stage. Question Period produced mostly deflected or misdirected answers and two points of order were raised.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Canadian Northwest Passage

Conservative MP Daryl Kramp said the motion would secure international recognition of the waterways as Canadian internal waters.

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Employment Insurance

Bloc Québécois MP Christiane Gagnon said the long-tenured workers bill would disqualify many forestry workers in Quebec.

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Health

NDP MP Kirsty Duncan asked why Canada would receive pandemic vaccine doses after the United States.

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Aboriginal Affairs

Liberal MP Anita Neville called for a full national investigation into murdered and missing aboriginal women.

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Salmon Industry

NDP MP Peter Julian said the government had failed to act on the disappearance of nine million sockeye salmon.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer denies the premise but immediately shifts to jobs and past debt payments without addressing structural deficit.Absolutely not, Mr. Speaker. Our immediate priority is to focus on jobs, to focus on the economy, to focus on hope and opportunity for the many Canadians who, through no fault of their own, are unemployed and looking for work.
  2. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer denies the claim but pivots to repeating support for the action plan without addressing deficit duration or structural nature.Mr. Speaker, that is not the case at all. We presented our economic action plan to this House in January.
  3. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims transparency but does not address releasing resources or opening books to the PBO.Mr. Speaker, we have run an open and transparent government. It was this government that brought forth countless measures to get a hold of the public finances of this country—
  4. deflected
    Foreign AffairsJoseph Volpe (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.Answer avoids the specific date and involvement question by citing general consular volume.on any given day the Department of Foreign Affairs deals with thousands of open consular cases.
  5. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsJoseph Volpe (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to general border enforcement statistics and an affidavit instead of addressing the inquiry delay or ministerial involvement.In the first eight months of this year over 4,000 people were stopped while attempting to enter our country with passports that were not theirs or were false.
  6. misdirected
    CinarMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to urging support for crime legislation instead of explaining RCMP decision or political pressure.One thing is for sure: we are encouraging the Bloc to support our getting tough on crime agenda.
  7. deflected
    CinarMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates that intellectual property must be respected but does not address a public inquiry or Justice Canada role.Mr. Speaker, once again, it is important to emphasize that intellectual property rights must be respected in this country.
  8. misdirected
    CinarMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Bloc support for legislation rather than confirming cooperation with any RCMP investigation.Why do those members not look into supporting our tough on crime legislation? Why will they not do that for a change?
  9. misdirected
    CinarMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the repayment question entirely and instead attacks the Bloc Québécois on unrelated bills.Which is the more dumb move on their part?
  10. misdirected
    Tax HarmonizationJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to attacking Layton's past tax positions rather than addressing why the HST is being imposed despite opposition.
  11. deflected
    Tax HarmonizationJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the HST concerns by sarcastically comparing Layton to Colonel Sanders instead of responding to the tax grab criticism.the leader of the NDP complaining about high taxes would be like Colonel Sanders complaining about the rights of chickens.
  12. deflected
    Tax HarmonizationJack Layton (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to past NDP tax policies in Saskatchewan and attacks the NDP record rather than addressing household debt and the HST impact.To hard hit taxpayers in Saskatchewan, the previous NDP government was not satisfied with a 5% sales tax.
  13. deflected
    AfghanistanMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids explaining the refusal to testify by invoking court rules and suggesting the asker is implying improper interference.Surely the hon. member is not suggesting that the government would involve itself in the proceedings that are currently before the court.
  14. answered
    AfghanistanMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly addresses the mandate non-renewal by stating it follows the standard four-year term for all commissioners.Mr. Tinsley has in fact been the commissioner for four years.
  15. answered
    AfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states the government's position that it will await the Afghan-led ECC determination before commenting.We will wait for a determination by that body.
  16. answered
    AfghanistanBob Rae (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reiterates that the government will comment only after the Electoral Complaints Commission finishes its work on the fraud extent.The commission is in the process of doing its work and once it has finished, we will be able to comment on the result of the election.
  17. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the Bloc Québécois voting record instead of addressing the claimed lack of EI impact in Quebec.What sort of thrill do the Bloc members get out of always being against the unemployed and, in this case, against Quebec's interests?
  18. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists unrelated government positions and accuses the Bloc of opposing Quebec interests rather than addressing compensation for Quebec's parental insurance system.Why is the Bloc against that? Why is it against the fact that we want harsher sentences for child traffickers?
  19. partly answered
    Canada-U.S. RelationsMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states that provinces' interests are being protected in negotiations but does not address specific exclusions requested.we have worked in partnership with all the provinces to protect their interests.
  20. deflected
    Canada-U.S. RelationsMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer emphasizes provincial inclusion at the table and a different approach from the prior government without confirming any plan to seek the listed exclusions.We are going to include the provinces at the federal negotiating table.
  21. misdirected
    Natural ResourcesMr. Paul Szabo (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to past Liberal scandals and government accountability measures instead of addressing the Prime Minister's refusal to hold the minister accountable.for a Liberal to stand in this House and accuse anyone of breaking every rule in the book, I think that phrase was originally spoken by the Auditor General in relation to the political fundraising scandal involving the Liberal Party.
  22. deflected
    Natural ResourcesMr. Paul Szabo (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer points to independent officers and upcoming opinions without the minister providing any account of her own conduct.The member opposite has asked for their opinion and we look forward to receiving it.
  23. deflected
    Government AdvertisingMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims the government does not bill taxpayers for partisan advertising and shifts to key messages without providing any spending figure.the Government of Canada does not bill the taxpayer for that kind of advertising.
  24. deflected
    Government AdvertisingMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Vic Toews (Conservative). substantive question.Answer changes the subject to H1N1 public information instead of supplying the requested advertising expenditure total.let us deal with the issue of H1N1.
  25. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the term limit and process continuity but avoids addressing the request for an extension.I would ask the member to show a little patience and a little respect for a process that is arm's-length from government.
  26. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Jack Harris (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the question with a personal insult rather than addressing the extension or reappointment request.I would ask the hon. member to loosen the chin strap on his tinfoil hat, get away from the conspiracy theories and let the commission do its important work.
  27. partly answered
    HousingMr. Christian Ouellet (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists funding measures but does not address the specific withdrawal from 52,000 Quebec units.that is exactly what we have done with the economic action plan.
  28. deflected
    HousingMr. Christian Ouellet (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats prior spending claims and attacks the Bloc instead of addressing use of CMHC retained earnings.The Bloc is voting against it.
  29. partly answered
    Aboriginal AffairsAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Helena Guergis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes support for Sisters in Spirit but does not address launching a national investigation.our government takes the issue of murdered and missing aboriginal women very seriously.
  30. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Helena Guergis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer reiterates support for existing research without addressing calls for immediate action or a full investigation.our government support for Sisters in Spirit and for identifying the root causes of racialized and sexualized violence that our aboriginal women are experiencing in overwhelming rates is not questionable.
  31. partly answered
    Salmon IndustryMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes meetings held but does not commit to an emergency summit or specific actions.I have already met personally with harvesters from British Columbia to hear their views on the situation and to provide input on how we should respond.
  32. deflected
    Salmon IndustryMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promises a future plan without addressing the lack of action or the 2004 commitment.We will be bringing our plan forward.
  33. deflected
    HealthMs. Kirsty Duncan (Liberal) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides the rollout date but avoids explaining the delay relative to the US by reframing as a safety issue rather than a timeline comparison.The rollout will be the first week of November, which we have been saying for the last three months.
  34. deflected
    ExporailMrs. Carole Freeman (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists other museum investments and states work continues on Exporail but does not explain specific plans to comply with the House motion.We are still working on Exporail in Montreal, but our government has already created two new museums and has increased funding for the others.
  35. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMs. Linda Duncan (NDP) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). loaded question.The answer opens by calling the question misdirected and then addresses public input broadly rather than the specific claim of violating consultation commitments.