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Thursday, May 14, 2009 · sitting No. 58

Liberals move hoist to kill first nations matrimonial rights bill

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on Bill C-8, the Family Homes on Reserves and Matrimonial Interests or Rights Act. Liberal MP Todd Russell moved a six-month hoist motion that would kill the bill, citing lack of support from first nations women and groups. Conservative MP John Duncan said the motion blindsided the aboriginal affairs committee and ignored 103 prior consultations.

In Question Period, Liberal MP Ralph Goodale pressed the government on employment insurance eligibility rules that leave many jobless workers without benefits. Minister Tony Clement replied that the government would not raise payroll taxes and noted 80 per cent of contributors receive benefits. Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe challenged the Prime Minister's claim that a 360-hour threshold would automatically yield 52 weeks of benefits.

Liberal MP Bob Rae and Minister Bev Oda exchanged statements on the worsening humanitarian crisis in Sri Lanka, where a hospital was reportedly bombed and 50,000 civilians remain trapped. NDP leader Jack Layton asked what steps Canada had taken to secure the release of Aung San Suu Kyi from house arrest in Burma.

Decided that day

  • C-5 received royal assent
  • S-3 received royal assent
  • C-7 advanced in first chamber
  • C-386 introduced

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2009-05-14

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 49%, opposition 51% of the words spokenGovernment businessGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:00Last speech 22:20Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 12 h 15 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
68Bills Pass While Answers DodgeThe House granted royal assent to two bills and advanced two others while devoting nearly all its time to substantive business. Question Period produced few direct answers and the Speaker issued nine calls to order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Marine Liability Act

Liberal MP Andrew Kania said his amendment on maritime liens was rejected for partisan reasons after committee members agreed to oppose all Liberal proposals.

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Fisheries and Oceans

Liberal MP Denis Coderre asked why the fisheries minister would not meet Atlantic lobster fishers facing collapsed prices and bankruptcy.

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Foreign Affairs

Liberal MP Irwin Cotler asked why the government would not bring Canadian citizen Abousfian Abdelrazik home from Sudan despite security services clearing him.

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Forestry Industry

Bloc Québécois MP Paule Brunelle pressed the government to match auto-sector loan guarantees for struggling forestry firms.

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Pension Plans

NDP leader Jack Layton asked why the government allows AbitibiBowater to cut pensions while granting a $17.5-million severance to its former executive chairman.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Employment InsuranceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Answer promotes existing EI system and tax concerns without addressing the call to change eligibility rules.We will not be in favour of a system that drives higher payroll taxes, which will not be to the benefit of workers and not to the benefit of businesses.
  2. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner's past statements and party instead of addressing EI policy.I see the member for Kings—Hants applauding his House leader there.
  3. partly answered
    Fisheries and OceansDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the crisis and notes upcoming meetings but does not specify actions like licence buybacks.She is having a meeting tomorrow with industry and provincial leaders in Moncton, and we expect some good solutions to come out of that meeting.
  4. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansLawrence MacAulay (Liberal) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). substantive question.Answer calls the question premature and defers to a future meeting without confirming any program.this question is a little premature.
  5. deflected
    Lobster IndustryMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Mr. Randy Kamp (Conservative). loaded question.Answer criticizes the questioner and points to existing plans without new commitments for the lobster fishery.obviously the member and some of his colleagues are missing the things that we already have done.
  6. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer responds with counter-questions about past votes rather than explaining the EI claim.can the leader of the Bloc Québécois answer my questions?
  7. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains the regional EI system but does not address or correct the specific 52-week claim.the employment insurance system is based on the unemployment rate in the regions of Quebec and Canada.
  8. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends the current regional system and criticizes alternatives without acknowledging or correcting the error.The drawback to the system proposed by the Liberal party is that it would destabilize the foundations of our employment-based economy.
  9. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to government stimulus measures and contrasts their benefit extension without addressing the specific reform demands or the honesty accusation.They proposed eliminating the two week waiting period, but we have given five more weeks of benefits to the unemployed, which is to their advantage.
  10. answered
    BurmaJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter Kent (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the government's position and actions regarding Aung San Suu Kyi's release and medical care.We have called for her immediate release, along with all political prisoners in Burma.
  11. misdirected
    Employment InsuranceJack Layton (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the EI qualification statistics and instead attacks the opposition coalition while restating government actions.The coalition is alive and well. The coalition is working together on this issue.
  12. misdirected
    Pension PlansJack Layton (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to EI praise and coalition attacks instead of addressing pension protections or the specific company case.Here on this side of the House, we are saying that coalitions like the one formed in December must be stopped.
  13. answered
    Sri LankaBob Rae (Liberal) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines concrete steps including ceasefire calls, aid amount, and willingness to meet the community.We have put forward $7.5 million in aid and we are willing to meet with the Tamil Canadian community.
  14. partly answered
    Sri LankaBob Rae (Liberal) asked Bev Oda (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions ongoing work with the UN and aid but provides no new specific actions beyond dialogue.We will continue to work with those countries, with the Security Council and the other United Nations agencies.
  15. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.The answer blames the prior Liberal government and the no-fly list instead of addressing current policy or bringing the individual home.The reason the Liberals could not do anything was because Mr. Abdelrazik was on the al-Qaeda Taliban no-fly list.
  16. deflected
    Foreign AffairsIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the sanctions list obligation without addressing the policy on rights or the security services' assessment.Mr. Abdelrazik is on this list and he was on this list when the hon. member was the minister of justice and he could not do anything at that time.
  17. deflected
    Forestry IndustryMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates general compliance without confirming agreement on the specific statement.it is important to state that all government measures respect our agreements such as that with the World Trade Organization.
  18. partly answered
    Forestry IndustryMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses legal constraints under the softwood agreement but does not address timing or equivalence to the auto sector.We cannot give Canadian companies an advantage over American companies.
  19. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.States no decisions made without giving the requested yes-or-no commitment on the squadron.No decisions have been made with respect to the location of existing assets or aircraft required in the future.
  20. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.Responds with a personal insult and attack on the prior government rather than addressing the commitment.the only thing that member is losing is his sense of reality.
  21. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Defends the government's record without admitting to or addressing the claim of misleading the House.the Liberal proposal is to have Canadians work for 360 hours to collect EI benefits, which works out to 45 days.
  22. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). loaded question.Repeats the calculation and contrasts proposals without addressing the accusation of misleading.360 hours at eight hours a day works out to 45 days.
  23. partly answered
    Infrastructure FundsMr. Sukh Dhaliwal (Liberal) asked Rob Merrifield (Conservative). substantive question.Denies the premise and cites one provincial example without quantifying further bankruptcies or job losses.The provincial Government of British Columbia has received hundreds of millions of dollars for 140 projects.
  24. answered
    Infrastructure FundsMrs. Lise Zarac (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.Directly references announced spending amounts and a specific project in the riding.we announced $12 billion in infrastructure spending in our action plan in January.
  25. deflected
    Forestry IndustryMr. John Rafferty (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists general forestry initiatives without addressing the specific issue of small companies' access to credit programs.I can go through a whole list of initiatives that this government has taken, including the access to the $5 billion in new credit that he seems to disparage.
  26. deflected
    Forestry IndustryMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the NDP's record instead of outlining any plan regarding the U.S. subsidy.However, everything that we have done, the NDP has opposed.
  27. partly answered
    Border Service AgencyMr. Thierry St-Cyr (Bloc) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the protest and supports the Official Languages Act but deflects responsibility to the independent IRB.However, the IRB is a quasi-judicial independent board and as such decides on its own processes and procedures as far as language is concerned.
  28. answered
    Border Service AgencyMr. Thierry St-Cyr (Bloc) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly states CBSA's commitment to the Official Languages Act and the translation requirement for evidence.Under the rules of the Immigration and Refugee Board, all documents presented as evidence are required to be translated in the official language of the proceedings.
  29. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Francis Valeriote (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition's tax policies instead of addressing the timing of a scrappage program.The answer of members on the other side of the House is more payroll taxes and more taxes across the board.
  30. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Francis Valeriote (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer highlights inconsistencies in the opposition leader's statements rather than committing to a scrappage program timeline.In British Columbia he says that he does not want to help the auto sector, yet in the House the ex-auto critic stands every week and says that they want to be helpful to the auto sector.
  31. partly answered
    Vale IncoMr. Claude Gravelle (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states that options are being examined but notes the timing of announcements falls outside Investment Canada obligations.However, the hon. member might want to check his facts.
  32. deflected
    Status of WomenMs. Irene Mathyssen (NDP) asked Helena Guergis (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses developing an action plan but avoids committing to long-term shelter funding.I am in the process of developing an action plan for women and one of the pillars is in fact focused on ending violence against women.
  33. partly answered
    Forestry IndustryMr. Anthony Rota (Liberal) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses the concern by noting contacts with industry and US administration but offers no timeline or specific demand for cancellation.she has been in contact with the Obama administration to correct this issue.
  34. misdirected
    Science and TechnologyMr. Robert Vincent (Bloc) asked Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.Turns to attacking the Bloc Québécois for past votes instead of justifying the funding decision.What is very disappointing and, frankly, dishonest is when the Bloc stands in the House and makes these accusations, yet it voted against any funding for research at the University of Sherbrooke.
  35. deflected
    Business of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.Begins by attacking Liberal tax policy rather than outlining the week's agenda as asked.one thing that will not be on the agenda is what the Liberal leader is always asking for and that is tax increases.
  36. misdirected
    Business of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the business query and launches an attack on the Bloc leader's language instead.It is absolutely shameful that he would stand in his place, use derogatory and unparliamentary language, and accuse ministers of the Crown of lying.
  37. deflected
    Points of OrderMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.Avoids addressing the request for review by shifting blame back to the Bloc.We did not accuse any member of this House of lying, on the contrary.
  38. answered
    Points of OrderMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Mr. Tom Lukiwski (Conservative). substantive question.Directly addresses the procedural point about royal recommendation for the bill.Without commenting on the merits of the bill, I submit that the bill must be accompanied by a royal recommendation because it would require new spending.