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Thursday, November 27, 2008 · sitting No. 8

Commons resumes throne speech debate amid economic warnings

The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to resuming debate on the address in reply to the Speech from the Throne. Bloc Québécois MP Serge Cardin told the House that Quebec must hold sole authority over infrastructure investments and that the tax rebate to municipalities must be adjusted. Conservative MP Steven Blaney said the speech would position the Canadian economy and expedite infrastructure projects across Quebec and Canada.

Question period featured repeated exchanges on the economy. Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion said the Prime Minister had misled Canadians by dismissing the possibility of a deficit during the election campaign. Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that Canada remains in surplus thanks to the Minister of Finance and holds the strongest fiscal position in the G7.

The finance minister later tabled the economic and fiscal statement. Opposition members immediately criticized the document as ideological rather than a practical response to global economic deterioration.

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2008-11-27

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 43%, opposition 57% of the words spokenRoutine proceedingsSpeech from the ThroneQuestion PeriodSpeech from the Throne▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:0014:0015:00Last speech 16:45Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 6 h 45 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
20Another sitting that went nowhereThe sitting was dominated by resumed debate on the Address in Reply and scattered economic topics, with minimal time on substantive business. No bills advanced, no votes were held, and Question Period produced mostly deflected answers amid several points of order.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Privilege

Liberal MP Wayne Easter raised a question of privilege over a letter sent by Conservative MP David Anderson under franking privileges that urged a change in Canadian Wheat Board leadership.

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Automotive Industry

Liberal MP Gerard Kennedy said the government had known for months about serious trouble in the auto sector yet had done nothing beyond sending the minister to Washington.

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Political Party Funding

Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe warned that cuts to political party financing in the economic update would create a democratic crisis instead of addressing the economic one.

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Terrorism

Conservative MP Nina Grewal condemned the terrorist attacks in Mumbai and expressed solidarity with India and Canadians of Indian descent.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer states general actions taken but supplies no concrete status update on Canadians at risk.The ministry of foreign affairs is doing all it can to contact and help Canadian citizens who are affected by this.
  2. deflected
    The EconomyStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing the accusation of misleading and instead restates current fiscal position and upcoming update.
  3. deflected
    The EconomyStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the question about paralysis and games and pivots to repeating claims of fiscal strength.This country is virtually alone at this moment in continuing to run a surplus.
  4. partly answered
    Automotive IndustryMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer describes meetings held but does not explain why concrete Canadian support measures have not yet been announced.One of my first actions as industry minister was to meet with the Canadian CEOs to get their picture on the situation.
  5. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Gerard Kennedy (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the call for immediate action and instead criticizes the opposition's approach while claiming facts are still being gathered.I know that is alien to the shoot, fire, aim gang over there, but on this side of the House, we care about the decisions we make.
  6. deflected
    Political Party FundingMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses to discuss the financing cuts and directs attention to the forthcoming fiscal statement instead.I ask the leader of the Bloc to wait for that statement.
  7. partly answered
    The EconomyMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists past actions and future meetings but does not commit to implementing the proposed measures today.We are going to act today and will take more action in the weeks to come, especially in cooperation with the provinces.
  8. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids addressing the recovery plan request and instead lectures the questioner while deferring to the budget process.I am not sure if it was an economic question or not.
  9. answered
    The EconomyMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly rebuts the claim of inaction by detailing prior stimulus measures.we have not been waiting for anything.
  10. deflected
    The EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer ignores the democracy attack and pivots to past economic record.Protecting the entitlements of political parties is not going to do anything for the Canadian people.
  11. deflected
    The EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer restates prior actions without addressing the refusal to act now.On the contrary, Mr. Speaker, the government has been acting for a year now.
  12. deflected
    The EconomyJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer shifts focus to the Finance Minister's upcoming statement and fiscal prudence.I am sure when the Minister of Finance gets up, today he will do what he has always done
  13. partly answered
    Forestry IndustryUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Lisa Raitt (Conservative). substantive question.The answer outlines some plan elements but does not address the softwood deal's job impact.we have a comprehensive plan on dealing with this situation.
  14. deflected
    Forestry IndustryUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the deal's history instead of addressing current worker impacts.The deal has the virtual unanimous support of the industry.
  15. partly answered
    Automotive IndustryMr. Bernard Patry (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes information gathering but offers no timeline or specific aid plan.at this time we are gathering the information we need to make the right decision.
  16. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Bernard Patry (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites past announcements without providing a new worker support timeline.we have already announced a number of action plans for the automotive industry
  17. deflected
    Arts and CultureMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked James Moore (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the old program's efficiency rather than addressing restoration of funding or the Quebec nation recognition claim.The Bloc Québécois wants a program that spent over 70% of its budget on administration, not on artists.
  18. deflected
    Arts and CultureMrs. Carole Lavallée (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accuses the asker of pettiness and lists unrelated spending instead of addressing culture jurisdiction transfer.I am always surprised by how petty the Bloc Québécois can be when it comes to discussing cultural issues.
  19. partly answered
    AfghanistanMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains the security-development link but does not address the Karzai quote or militarization critique directly.unfortunately the hon. member does not understand that it is impossible to have development without security.
  20. deflected
    AfghanistanMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats prior points on UN invitation and objectives while ignoring the personal attack and call for strategy review.we are in Afghanistan at the invitation of the United Nations.
  21. partly answered
    The EconomyJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer describes the insured mortgage program mechanics but does not address demanding banks lower credit costs for small business.Through our insured mortgage purchase program, we have put that money through CMHC, but we have also put in a system that allows individuals to gain credit from the banks.
  22. deflected
    The EconomyJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to past tax cuts and opposition votes instead of addressing current bank credit costs or the deficit impact.What a novel idea, Mr. Speaker, helping small business.
  23. partly answered
    Employment InsuranceMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims steps to improve EI and targeting help but offers no concrete assurance on availability amid rising job losses.We will target help to those who need help the most.
  24. deflected
    Employment InsuranceMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). loaded question.Answer focuses on premium collection independence and government backing without addressing the $2 billion fund adequacy or job protection.It is an independent board that sets the amount for the premiums and that independent board is backed by money and backed by the government.
  25. deflected
    Canadian Wheat BoardMr. Bill Siksay (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the ethics violation query and shifts to unrelated Wheat Board complaints.when NDP members get up, they never ask about the real issues concerning the Canadian Wheat Board.
  26. deflected
    Canadian Wheat BoardMr. Bill Siksay (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer evades the suspension question by attacking the NDP's sources and motives.I am sorry that they only get their advice from extremists in the agriculture community.
  27. partly answered
    AfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the end date and security but does not engage with the request to correct course.there was a vote taken in this place that did involve an end date, and that is 2011.
  28. misdirected
    AfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the Bloc's realism instead of justifying the spending increase.What is scandalous, Mr. Speaker, is that the Bloc and that member seem to be completely out of touch with reality
  29. deflected
    Canadian Wheat BoardWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to criticizing Liberal policy rather than addressing access to voter lists or third-party rules.after the last election the member for Malpeque acknowledged that the Liberals' agriculture policy just was not working.
  30. deflected
    Canadian Wheat BoardWayne Easter (Liberal) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses the law-breaking claims and counters with unrelated Wheat Board examples.Sound and fury, Mr. Speaker, signifying nothing.
  31. partly answered
    Credit Card Interchange FeesMr. Bruce Hyer (NDP) asked Diane Ablonczy (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the issue and notes ministerial action but offers no concrete plan.The Minister of Finance has written to the banks about this issue asking them to deal with it.
  32. partly answered
    HealthMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked Leona Aglukkaq (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states intent to introduce legislation but does not address the backlog or Bill C-51 concerns.this government is committed to bringing forward new legislation on that.
  33. deflected
    Government SpendingMr. Todd Russell (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts entirely to past Liberal cabinet sizes instead of addressing current Conservative spending accusations.At the end of Jean Chrétien's time in government, he had 39 members in cabinet, as did Paul Martin, this with only 133 Liberal members of Parliament in the House.
  34. deflected
    Meat Processing IndustryMr. André Bellavance (Bloc) asked Jean-Pierre Blackburn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the $50 million promise but refuses to specify any amount for the named company and defers to the future budget.The amount of $50 million was mentioned, but we will have to wait for the budget to see about that.
  35. deflected
    Fisheries and OceansMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Gail Shea (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses general treaty principles and conservation but provides no timeline or mandate details for the salmon review.While we do not want to delay the treaty process, we must ensure that the fish are there for future generations.
  36. answered
    Business of the HouseMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.Answer outlines the immediate schedule, designates an opposition day, and addresses the ways and means motion.I would like to designate Monday, December 1 as an allotted day pursuant to the order I mentioned earlier.
  37. partly answered
    Points of OrderDan McTeague (Liberal) asked Jay Hill (Conservative). substantive question.Answer commits to obtaining the letter from the absent minister but does not table it immediately.I will certainly approach her and make sure that we are able to provide that.