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Monday, June 2, 2008 · sitting No. 103
Commons debates budget bill as Liberals split on immigration changes
The House spent the largest share of its time on the budget implementation bill, Bill C-50. Debate focused on changes to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act in Part 6, with Conservative MP Jim Abbott questioning Liberal support and Liberal MP Andrew Telegdi confirming he voted against the bill in committee. NDP MP Peter Julian pressed Liberals to join the NDP and Bloc to defeat the legislation.
In Question Period, Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion demanded a full independent inquiry into the handling of classified documents by the former foreign affairs minister. Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the government accepted the resignation and ordered a departmental review. NDP Leader Jack Layton and Liberal MP Stéphane Dion also challenged the government on climate policy and the carbon tax.
Decided that day
- Bill C-50 passed
- Two amendments to Bill C-50 defeated
- Bills S-4, C-555 and C-556 introduced
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Who held the floor · 2008-06-02
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Bloc Québécois MP Robert Carrier said seniors receiving the GIS remain $110 below the low-income cutoff despite government increases.
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Liberal MP Brian Murphy asked when the government would name a commissioner for the Mulroney-Schreiber inquiry, and Conservative MP Peter Van Loan replied that the government is waiting for a suitable candidate.
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Liberal MP Ujjal Dosanjh said the Treasury Board president faces an insurmountable conflict of interest in seeking a judicial appointment, and Justice Minister Rob Nicholson replied that all appointments are made on merit.
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Liberal MP Joyce Murray accused Health Minister Tony Clement of ignoring science on Insite, and Clement said the government wants to expand treatment options beyond the site.
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- deflectedForeign AffairsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends internal review instead of addressing request for independent inquiry.
That is what we are doing now.
- deflectedForeign AffairsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats commitment to departmental review rather than ordering independent inquiry.
We are doing exactly that and we will ensure that is done in an independent and professional manner.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to NAFTA review instead of answering the screening question.
with respect to the NAFTA issue, the clerk of the Privy Council and the department conducted a thoroughly independent, professional review.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts focus to the minister's resignation rather than the Prime Minister taking responsibility.
as the hon. member for Etobicoke—Lakeshore quite rightly observed, the minister did take responsibility for his actions.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer reframes the Italy claim as an Italian government announcement without addressing the blunder or apology.
After that meeting it was the government of Italy that announced the fact that it was reviewing the caveats that it has in place on its forces in Afghanistan.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer emphasizes minister's resignation but avoids addressing whether PM knew of Couillard's past.
The former minister did the honourable thing by resigning.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates minister's responsibility without addressing PM's knowledge or judgment.
In this case, the minister admitted that he failed to protect classified documents.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer narrows issue to document location and ignores question about prior knowledge of Couillard.
It mattered not that it was Madam Couillard's house.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates a timeline fact without addressing the accusation of hiding the truth or lack of judgment.
Mr. Speaker, it is clear that the Prime Minister found out on Monday afternoon that the documents had been left at Ms. Couillard's home.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the minister's role and notes mandatory targets but does not explain why a cap and trade system is blocked.
It is interesting to see this meeting between the governments of Quebec and Ontario and I can say that the national targets established by this government are mandatory targets and that the provinces cannot disregard them.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains regulatory options and rejects carbon taxes but avoids addressing the premiers' initiative or the minister's remarks.
The option undertaken by the Minister of the Environment is to establish a regulatory mechanism.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking the Liberal carbon tax instead of addressing the attack on premiers or the climate plan.
I will work with Dalton McGuinty to defeat the Liberal carbon tax plan any time, any place, any day of the week.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes the government's plan and criticizes the Liberal approach but does not address the distortion claim or produce a new plan.
We have a plan to cut, in absolute terms, our greenhouse gas emissions.
- misdirectedThe EconomyMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks Liberals on carbon tax instead of addressing the minister's incorrect growth statement or GDP shrinkage.
Canadians know full well they cannot trust the Liberals, who want to impose a carbon tax
- partly answeredThe EconomyMs. Martha Hall Findlay (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites job numbers and economic strength but does not address the recession definition or trust issue from the GDP error.
it is regrettable to see a new member of Parliament so pessimistic about our country.
- answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states support for fixed targets and details the regulatory plan and carbon exchange.
Last year we were very proud to announce our plan of action to regulate major polluters.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes the government's own plan without addressing the Quebec-Ontario exchange or oil companies claim.
We have found real solutions for our environment. This is the first time in Canadian history that we have a government with a real plan of action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
- deflectedFederal Spending PowerMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). substantive question.Responds with achievements instead of addressing the specific bill requirements for opt-out.
In budget 2008, we reformed the millennium scholarships, which everyone condemned and which had been invented by our centralizing Liberal predecessors.
- misdirectedFederal Spending PowerMr. Jean-Yves Laforest (Bloc) asked Christian Paradis (Conservative). loaded question.Turns to criticizing the Bloc Québécois instead of addressing the promise.
Certainly not the Bloc Québécois, which has never kept a single promise here in the House of Commons.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Instead of answering, makes a personal remark about the member's past electoral record.
I know that on his previous audition the voters of Ontario watched for five years and then took a pass.
- answeredForeign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Directly addresses the process by saying it is the department's responsibility.
Since it is the department's processes, that is the best place to do it and that is why it is there to do that job.
- answeredForeign AffairsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Provides the timeline of when the PM was informed, countering the premise of delay or cover-up.
The facts are that the government became aware and the Prime Minister became aware of the problem that the documents had been left in an unsecured place on Monday afternoon.
- answeredForeign AffairsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Directly states the fact that the Prime Minister was advised on Monday.
The truth is that the Prime Minister was advised on Monday.
- deflectedInfrastructureMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Mr. Brian Jean (Conservative). substantive question.Focuses on positive aspects of their budget rather than explaining the infrastructure deficit.
The permanent gas tax fund sets a new standard for the way the Government of Canada supports cities and communities.
- deflectedInfrastructureMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Mr. Brian Jean (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores the study on property taxes and instead quotes praise for the government.
have chosen to invest in our economic prosperity, our quality of life and our future, and for that we applaud them.
- deflectedJusticeUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses vetting process generally but avoids the specific conflict of interest raised about the Treasury Board President.
all the appointments this government has made were thoroughly vetted through a judicial advisory committee.
- misdirectedJusticeUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to attacking Liberals for losing appointment power rather than addressing the conflict of interest.
I appreciate that the Liberals are upset about the fact that they do not make the appointments anymore and I can assure the House that will continue for a long time.
- partly answeredEthicsMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states the government is waiting for the inquiry after receiving Johnston's report but does not give a timeline.
We now have Mr. Johnston's report and are waiting for a public inquiry to begin.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Brian Murphy (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer gives a one-word sarcastic reply that avoids committing to any action or timeline.
- deflectedBill C-484Ms. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer sidesteps the bill's content and Quebec opposition by noting private members' bills are allowed.
Apparently the hon. member is upset that private members can introduce private members' bills, but those are the rules that we have and each member can vote accordingly.
- misdirectedBill C-484Ms. Johanne Deschamps (Bloc) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer mocks the Bloc for not liking House rules instead of addressing the bill's alleged impact on women.
If it really upsets the Bloc, why does it not introduce a private member's bill to get rid of private members' bills, if that is what it does not like?
- deflectedHuman RightsSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer accepts the apology as sufficient but does not address the lack of follow-up actions requested by the community.
We heard it in this House and I believe we all agree that it was a heartfelt, sincere and genuine apology and this government has accepted that apology.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to past Liberal policies and general emission rules without addressing the Kearl decision or Arctic drilling.
We will ensure that every environmental law is respected so we can do the right thing for our planet and our future.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking the Liberal carbon tax and praising NDP opposition instead of addressing subsidies or Imperial Oil plans.
I want to thank the NDP for being brave enough to stand with those of us in the government against the Liberals' carbon tax plan.
- partly answeredHealthMs. Joyce Murray (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites committee statistics on Insite outcomes and emphasizes treatment focus but does not address the court ruling or ideology claim.
the expert advisory committee was very clear. It found that only 3% of those who attend Insite actually get referred to treatment and that only 10% of those who use Insite use it for all their injections.
- misdirectedTourismMark Eyking (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer flatly denies the premise of declining tourism numbers without engaging the recommendations or government inaction cited.
the member is not correct in his facts. Tourism continues to be a thriving industry in this country.