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Friday, May 30, 2008 · sitting No. 102

Commons debates bloc bid to scrap immigration clauses from budget bill

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on government orders for the Budget Implementation Act 2008. Bloc Québécois MP Thierry St-Cyr moved five motions to delete clauses 116 through 120 concerning changes to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. Conservative MP Ted Menzies spoke against the amendments and said they would remove needed improvements while Liberal MP Lloyd St. Amand questioned the emphasis on temporary workers over family reunification.

Question period opened with repeated exchanges on missing classified documents. Liberal MP Bob Rae pressed Foreign Affairs Minister Peter Van Loan for an independent inquiry into the seven-week reporting delay and the handling of the documents. Van Loan said an internal departmental review was under way and rejected the need for a public inquiry.

Further exchanges in question period centred on the Insite safe-injection site. NDP MP Libby Davies asked Health Minister Tony Clement to reverse the decision to appeal a court ruling allowing the site to operate. Van Loan replied that the government favours prevention and treatment over supervised injection.

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Who held the floor · 2008-05-30

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 39%, opposition 61% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:00Last speech 13:25Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 20 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
35Another sitting that went nowhereThe sitting devoted most time to the budget bill and foreign affairs yet passed no bills and held no votes. Question period produced mostly deflected answers.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

The Arctic

NDP MP Dennis Bevington said other Arctic nations share the NDP view that sovereignty should be pursued through cooperation and international law rather than military force.

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Official Languages

Bloc Québécois MP Raymond Gravel cited the commissioner of official languages report and said the government lacks vision and leadership on francophone communities.

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Securities

Bloc Québécois MP Robert Bouchard asked the government to drop its plan for a single securities commission after Quebec and most provinces opposed it.

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Afghanistan

NDP MP Dawn Black raised reports that soldiers are prescribed antidepressants while deployed and asked whether troops with post-traumatic stress disorder are being sent into combat.

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Airbus

Liberal MP Michael Savage pressed the government to name a commissioner for the promised public inquiry into the Mulroney-Schreiber affair after seven months of delay.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Foreign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates internal review without addressing independent inquiry or seven-week gap.It is being conducted by the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade to determine if there are any concerns that remain with regard to the documents that were left in an unsecured location.
  2. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to judging the former minister's personal conduct instead of addressing need for independent inquiry.In this case, actually, the individual was his own judge of his own conduct. and that is why the member for Beauce , when he was minister, submitted his resignation, passing judgment himself as judge.
  3. deflected
    Foreign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer denies inquiry into personal relationship and claims questions on documents are recent, avoiding the call for independent review.the questions for several weeks have been about a personal relationship. We do not intend to have a public inquiry into a personal relationship.
  4. answered
    Foreign AffairsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly states the timeline of when the Prime Minister was informed, addressing the contradiction raised.The Prime Minister became aware on Monday afternoon of the fact that documents had been left in an unsecured place and the breach had occurred.
  5. answered
    Foreign AffairsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer explicitly rejects the premise and states the timeline without evasion.I will not tell the House that the Prime Minister was aware of this on Sunday because that would be lying to the House.
  6. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer cites passport rules and shifts to the minister's personal relationship status instead of confirming passport type.On an entirely unrelated matter, I do notice that the opposition is very interested in the personal life of the former minister of foreign affairs.
  7. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats rules and refuses to confirm passport for the individual, pivoting to relationship status.I am not going to comment on whether any individual had a passport, but I will comment to this limited extent on the minister's private life.
  8. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Pauline Picard (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer reiterates rules and relationship status without addressing the inquiry or knowledge of past.In an unrelated matter, the previous minister of foreign affairs, the member for Beauce , was not at any time when he was minister of foreign affairs in a legally married or legally recognized common law spousal relationship with anybody.
  9. answered
    Foreign AffairsMs. Pauline Picard (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly explains the rule violation and resulting resignation.That is why the minister tendered his resignation. That is why the resignation was accepted.
  10. deflected
    HealthMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates government policy without addressing questions about meeting users or Insite contact role.the interest of this government is ensuring that people can get off drugs.
  11. deflected
    HealthMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats anti-drug strategy talking points instead of responding to the reversal demand or science claim.The most important harm reduction measure is to get people off drugs.
  12. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer clarifies legal passport requirements but refuses to confirm specifics for the individual.to obtain a diplomatic passport, one has to be legally married or in a legally recognized common law relationship.
  13. deflected
    Foreign AffairsDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to distinction between traveller and spouse status without confirming passport possession.
  14. answered
    Foreign AffairsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the planned review to address the seven-week gap concern.that is why the Department of Foreign Affairs is going to conduct a review.
  15. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition's versions of events rather than addressing the PMO notification timeline.I hear so many versions of what happened from over there. No wonder some people get confused.
  16. partly answered
    Official LanguagesMr. Raymond Gravel (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.Answer confirms upcoming release but does not address the delay or partisan motives raised.We have already said that we plan to launch the next phase of the action plan by the end of spring.
  17. deflected
    Status of WomenMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to general official languages funding without addressing Status of Women cuts or program criteria.For example, we have allocated $30 million for assistance to official language communities here in Canada.
  18. deflected
    SecuritiesMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses problems with separate regulators and encourages review but avoids committing to heed the National Assembly motion.We encourage the provinces to take a serious look at this.
  19. deflected
    SecuritiesMr. Robert Bouchard (Bloc) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters the premise by noting some provinces see benefits but sidesteps the call to abandon the plan and the personal attack.There are provinces that recognize the benefits.
  20. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsLarry Bagnell (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses humane treatment assurances but does not engage with concerns about the fairness of the military commission process.The Government of Canada has sought and will continue to receive assurances that Mr. Khadr is being treated humanely.
  21. deflected
    Foreign AffairsLarry Bagnell (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats prior points on charges and humane treatment while ignoring the new information about the judge's removal and calls for repatriation.However, any questions regarding whether Canada plans to ask for the release of Mr. Khadr are premature and speculative as the legal process and the appeals are still going on.
  22. deflected
    Official LanguagesMr. Jean-Claude D'Amours (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). loaded question.The answer blames Liberals for voting against measures instead of confirming a timeline or concrete action on the action plan renewal.The Liberals voted against that measure.
  23. partly answered
    Official LanguagesMr. Jean-Claude D'Amours (Liberal) asked Mr. Pierre Lemieux (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms continued current funding and a spring announcement but does not address the expired plan's impact on Quebec anglophones.In the meantime, we have ensured that all the current funding for official language communities across Canada will continue during this period.
  24. deflected
    AfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer emphasizes monitoring and fitness assessments but avoids addressing whether soldiers with PTSD are being deployed.No soldiers go into combat or into operations when they are not fit to do so.
  25. partly answered
    AfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer discusses support measures for returning soldiers but pivots to the mission and avoids directly addressing capacity concerns or the loaded premise.We have made tremendous strides in the last number of years in that area.
  26. answered
    AirbusMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the process and states the inquiry will be established soon, directly addressing the timeline question.He has identified the discrete issues that will be examined by such a public inquiry, which will be established soon.
  27. deflected
    AirbusMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the accusation about constricting terms and instead restates that the inquiry is being set up.The terms of reference are available now, and we look forward to that taking place soon.
  28. misdirected
    Canada-U.S. RelationsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the leak inquiry and clears Brodie instead of answering whether Sensenbrenner was on the distribution list.His very clear finding was that the distribution list used by Foreign Affairs in this case was too broad and that the classification of the document was inappropriate.
  29. misdirected
    Canada-U.S. RelationsGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the Liberals for prior accusations rather than answering whether Sensenbrenner was questioned.They considered him guilty and were ready to send him to the gallows.
  30. deflected
    Library and Archives CanadaMr. Richard Nadeau (Bloc) asked Jim Abbott (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges importance but provides no information and promises a later response instead of authorizing construction.I have no notice or knowledge of exactly where this is but, taking his question very seriously, I will respond to him and give him the information for which he is asking.
  31. answered
    Francophone Education and Training ConferenceMr. Thierry St-Cyr (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms awareness and states measures are being taken to allow delegates entry promptly.We want the conference to be a great success and we are taking measures to ensure that the delegates are allowed to enter Canada as soon as possible.
  32. deflected
    Economic DevelopmentMr. Ken Boshcoff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids committing to funding levels and instead pivots to attacking a Liberal carbon tax.That is why we are taking care to stand up for northern Ontario residents by opposing a carbon tax.
  33. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer ignores the trip and embarrassment framing to pivot to unrelated reputation metrics.the Prime Minister has returned from his trip and he returned to a country that is better respected on the world stage than it was previously.
  34. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. David Anderson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists general energy priorities without addressing the nuclear waste safety question.nuclear energy is certainly one of the options in that mix.
  35. partly answered
    HealthMs. Tina Keeper (Liberal) asked Mr. Steven Fletcher (Conservative). loaded question.The answer corrects the premise on science and clarifies appeal scope but does not explain use of taxpayer funds.The fact is that the science is mixed.
  36. answered
    MiningMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the funding decision for the specific project and provides regional totals.In the case of the particular proposal for CEMI in Sudbury, that is one that would not maximize the leverage of the FedNor money as we would like to see it through northern Ontario.