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Wednesday, May 28, 2008 · sitting No. 100

Commons spends day on estimates amid contract questions for finance minister

The House devoted most of its time to committee of the whole consideration of the 2008-09 main estimates. Debate focused on a sole-source contract let by the finance department and on whether the minister or his staff bore responsibility for administrative lapses.

Liberal MP John McCallum pressed Finance Minister Jim Flaherty on why the minister had not apologized to taxpayers and had instead blamed his chief of staff. The minister replied that the work had been completed for value received and that corrective steps had been taken once the irregularities were discovered.

Decided that day

  • C-13 received royal assent
  • C-55 and C-445 passed second reading
  • C-33, S-224 and C-21 advanced in first chamber
  • C-552 introduced
  • Bill referred to Finance committee after second reading
  • Bill referred to International committee after second reading
  • Bill passed third reading
  • Motion that the question be now put passed

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Who held the floor · 2008-05-28

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 53%, opposition 47% of the words spokenQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedingsGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 14:0515:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:0021:0022:00Last speech 23:15Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 9 h 10 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
62Bills Advance While Answers DodgeThe House devoted most of its time to substantive business and moved multiple bills forward, including granting royal assent to C-13 and passing four recorded votes. Question Period produced few direct answers and five points of order interrupted proceedings.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Foreign Affairs

Liberal leader Stéphane Dion asked the government to call a full independent inquiry into the forced resignation of the foreign affairs minister, saying the Prime Minister’s handling had become an international embarrassment. Conservative MP Peter Van Loan replied that the Prime Minister had acted immediately on national-security grounds once the breach was known.

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Canada-U.S. Relations

NDP leader Jack Layton asked whether the government would use every legal technique to identify those behind the leak of the Obama memo. Conservative MP Peter Van Loan said the Clerk of the Privy Council’s investigation had cleared the Prime Minister’s chief of staff and the ambassador in Washington.

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Taxation

Conservative MP Patrick Brown asked the finance minister to comment on Liberal plans for a carbon tax. Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said the proposal would harm seniors, manufacturers and the poor.

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Health

NDP MP Libby Davies asked Health Minister Tony Clement whether the government would respect a B.C. Supreme Court ruling protecting Insite. Clement said the government disagreed with the judgment and was examining its options.

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Cluster Munitions

NDP MP Alexa McDonough said the Conservative government was threatening the integrity of the cluster munitions treaty being negotiated in Dublin. Liberal MP Mark Eyking noted Canada’s earlier leadership on the land-mine ban and urged continued engagement.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Foreign AffairsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the Prime Minister's actions but avoids addressing the request for a full independent inquiry.As soon as he became aware of the breach that occurred, he took action and the resignation of the foreign affairs minister was forthcoming.
  2. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer addresses the status of the documents and ongoing review but does not fully respond to the demand for evidence from a serious investigation.For example, we know that the documents were returned to the Government of Canada.
  3. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts to attacking the Liberal leader on unrelated foreign policy positions instead of addressing the national security concerns raised.The difference when we talk about embarrassment on the international stage is a Liberal Party leader who advocates invading Pakistan as a way of success in Afghanistan.
  4. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to listing government achievements and attacking Liberal ideas rather than addressing the accusations of interference and lost documents.Canada's leadership on the world stage is impressive.
  5. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer diverts to historical Conservative foreign policy successes and attacks on Liberals instead of addressing the current reputation damage.It is that way because of Conservative governments and people like John Diefenbaker and like Brian Mulroney, who led the fight against apartheid.
  6. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates cabinet rules and the resignation without engaging the question of why the security problem is being denied.The issue of the documents is very important and security is very important.
  7. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer asserts that action was taken promptly but avoids addressing the timeline of the Prime Minister's initial response.The Prime Minister acted as soon as he learned that cabinet rules had been broken.
  8. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the existence of security systems and links the resignation to their breach but does not directly confirm or deny the specific tracking system mentioned.there are various systems in the departments and with cabinet for ensuring security of documents.
  9. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores timing and concealment claims, restating only the resignation reason.The mistake made by the member for Beauce was a serious one and that is the reason for his resignation.
  10. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses inquiry possibility but not whether other documents are missing.the minister of foreign affairs was asked to examine the situation.
  11. answered
    Canada-U.S. RelationsJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly reports the Clerk's findings and lack of evidence for the suggested leak source.In their findings clearing the Prime Minister 's Chief of Staff and our ambassador in Washington as not having released any classified information, the difficulty, of course, was that the memo in question was circulated to over 200 people
  12. answered
    Foreign AffairsUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer supplies the requested timeline and retrieval details without evasion.Documents were left. They were left in an unsecured place. Madam Couillard undertook with her lawyer to return those, and they were returned.
  13. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the asker as naive instead of confirming or denying the CSIS-PMO meeting.I hope the member opposite is not so naive as to think that meetings between CSIS members and the Prime Minister on any subject would be a matter of total public record.
  14. deflected
    Foreign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer dismisses press reports without addressing the Prime Minister's statement timing.Sometimes journalists get things wrong.
  15. deflected
    Foreign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer claims immediate action but does not explain the five-week gap after issues first surfaced.As soon as the Prime Minister became aware of this issue, action was taken and the resignation of the foreign affairs minister resulted.
  16. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer reframes to document security and avoids the bidder security-check question entirely.In the matter involving the minister of foreign affairs, the issue is the documents that were left in an unsecured location.
  17. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps whether ministers knew of risks by pivoting to privacy.
  18. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks the asker instead of addressing the alleged meeting or report.the only thing being proven here is that the hon. member from Quebec City is very engrossed in members' private lives.
  19. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats the privacy stance without engaging the transparency or responsibility claims.it is not this government's objective to make the private lives of the members of this House transparent.
  20. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The reply shifts to the PM's trip and criticizes Liberals rather than answering about checks.We will not inquire into them, monitor them or control them no matter how many times the Liberal Party encourages us to do that.
  21. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer clarifies the timeline but does not confirm or deny RCMP/CSIS involvement.The Department of Foreign Affairs has been asked to look into the situation.
  22. deflected
    Foreign AffairsUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The response refuses to discuss security meetings on principle without answering yes or no.It would not be, nor should it be, nor will it be the policy of any prime minister to be publicly talking about meetings he or she may or may not have had with members of CSIS.
  23. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer insults the asker and accuses him of games instead of confirming the meeting.he is just playing a silly game right now.
  24. deflected
    HealthMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.The answer expresses disagreement and general goals but does not assure compliance with the ruling.we on this side of the House care about treating drug addicts who need our help.
  25. deflected
    HealthMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's ideology instead of addressing the court decision or Insite.it is a bit rich for the member from the New Democratic Party to start lecturing us on ideological positions.
  26. deflected
    Canada-U.S. RelationsNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the report's findings and shifts blame to Liberals rather than explaining why Americans were not interviewed.as the report that was undertaken by the Clerk of the Privy Council indicated, there were media sources that did not cooperate and there were others where there was no point in approaching.
  27. misdirected
    Canada-U.S. RelationsNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner for smearing the Clerk instead of addressing the report's failure to interview Americans.the hon. member belongs to a party that claims to stand up for public servants, yet he stands in the House, under the privilege provided to members of the House, and smears the reputation of the top civil servant in this country
  28. misdirected
    JusticeAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to unrelated crime issues in Winnipeg and attacks the questioner's party record instead of addressing the judicial appointment.If she wants to get involved in justice issues, instead of worrying about no appointment, maybe she could go back and talk to law enforcement agencies in Winnipeg who are quite concerned about auto theft and youth crime.
  29. deflected
    JusticeAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes the government's justice agenda without addressing the Treasury Board President's appointment or past conviction.We are doing something that has not been done in this country for a long time. We are standing up for victims and law-abiding Canadians.
  30. partly answered
    Shipbuilding IndustryMr. Serge Cardin (Bloc) asked David Emerson (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes the phase-out period and financing support but does not commit to an aggressive maritime policy as recommended.the free trade agreement with the EFTA countries has the longest phase-out in Canadian history built into it in terms of a 10 to 15 year phase-out for the shipbuilding industry.
  31. deflected
    Regional DevelopmentMr. Jean-Yves Roy (Bloc) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). loaded question.The answer gives a generic statement on the mandate without addressing funding cuts or the specific review.Economic Development Canada's mandate is to support economic development in Canada, and that is what we are working to achieve.
  32. deflected
    Foreign AffairsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer clarifies the minister's statement but avoids reconciling the conflicting stories on whether it is a private or security matter.He simply said that people who were concerned about national security did not talk about these kinds of meetings in a public forum.
  33. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Nathan Cullen (NDP) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the query by asserting world leadership without addressing carbon pricing or the specific commitments requested.the member is absolutely wrong. He knows Canada now is a world leader in the fight against climate change.
  34. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to attacking the NDP's voting record instead of addressing the request for a plan with an absolute cap on emissions.the NDP record on the environment is unbelievable.
  35. answered
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Todd Russell (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly explains the rejection of Kelowna and lists concrete action plans on water, housing, claims and rights.That is why we are moving on specific things such as action plans on clean water, action plans on housing, including the first ever market housing fund, action plans on specific claims, action plans on human rights.