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Tuesday, May 27, 2008 · sitting No. 99

Commons presses government on foreign affairs security breach

Question period consumed the largest share of the sitting as opposition members repeatedly challenged the government over the resignation of the member for Beauce as foreign affairs minister. Liberal leader Stéphane Dion said the Prime Minister showed an appalling lack of judgment by not taking the matter seriously earlier and called for a full independent investigation. Government House leader Peter Van Loan replied that the Prime Minister acted once a cabinet rule breach was confirmed and that Foreign Affairs would review the situation.

The House also devoted substantial time to second reading of Bill C-55, the Canada-EFTA free trade agreement implementation act. Bloc Québécois MP Serge Cardin supported the bill but urged a national strategy for shipbuilding, while Liberal MP Derek Lee defended the 10-to-15-year tariff phase-out as a reasonable adjustment period.

Decided that day

  • Amendment to motion failed
  • S-228 advanced to second reading
  • C-57, C-550 and C-551 introduced
  • C-459 passed first and second chamber stages

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Who held the floor · 2008-05-27

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 30%, opposition 70% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:30Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 25 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
66Bills Advance on Trade and EnvironmentThe House spent the bulk of its time on foreign affairs, a free-trade deal and environmental legislation, moving several bills through introduction and readings. One amendment failed while Question Period produced mostly deflected answers, yet substantive business accounted for nearly all words spoken.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer distinguishes private life from rule breach and notes action taken but sidesteps the core accusation of poor judgment.as soon as the Prime Minister was aware that a cabinet rule had been breached, the Prime Minister took action.
  2. deflected
    Foreign AffairsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates the member's error and resignation without addressing calls for further investigations into security breaches.this was an error on the part of the hon. member for Beauce , who realized he had committed a very serious mistake, and his resignation has been accepted.
  3. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer corrects the claim of no investigation but does not address the demand for an independent probe or secrecy concerns.We have asked the Department of Foreign Affairs to look into the situation.
  4. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges multiple questions and begins addressing document contents but is cut short.there were a number of questions included there that 35 seconds do not give me time to answer.
  5. deflected
    Foreign AffairsGarth Turner (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer responds to interruption by criticizing the interrupters rather than engaging substantively.if they want to hear the answer, they can listen to it.
  6. answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly confirms the mix of public and classified documents and their purpose for the NATO summit.those were a mix of publicly available documents, as well as some classified documents.
  7. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer reiterates that private life was not a factor and avoids addressing prior knowledge of security risks.The member for Beauce made a mistake, he took responsibility for it, and he tendered his resignation.
  8. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses the premise by shifting focus to what the US President said rather than addressing the screening or knowledge questions.I do not think that the things the President of the United States said about Ms. Couillard were matters of national security.
  9. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing prior knowledge of the documents and instead repeats that action was taken once the breach was known.The Prime Minister took action as soon as he learned that cabinet rules were breached.
  10. answered
    Foreign AffairsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly confirms under oath that the PMO had no prior information about the documents.The Prime Minister 's Office had no information about the documents prior to yesterday.
  11. misdirected
    Foreign AffairsJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question about seeking a UN Security Council seat and instead attacks past Liberal spending.The last time Canada sought a seat on the national stage several million dollars were spent under the Liberal government conducting a campaign, including handing out free tickets to special events to members of the United Nations.
  12. deflected
    Foreign AffairsJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists unrelated government activities abroad instead of addressing steps to restore Canada's international image.Canada will continue to show leadership on the world stage, the kind of leadership that we have shown in Afghanistan where our forces have been carrying on some of the toughest work that has been required to advance the cause and the values that we believe in
  13. answered
    Foreign AffairsDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly states the government does not investigate private citizens and claims no knowledge of the bugging allegation.I can tell members that this government is not in the business of investigating the private lives of private citizens.
  14. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer confirms documents were returned and analysis requested but does not address whether they were copied or passed to organized crime.The Department of Foreign Affairs has been asked to analyze the situation, and it could request the assistance of the appropriate agencies.
  15. deflected
    Foreign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to private lives rather than explaining why the government took five weeks to learn of the missing documents.as many of the questions have been over the past several weeks, about the private lives of private citizens.
  16. deflected
    Foreign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer begins by mocking the question and then cuts off without completing a substantive response.following your worthy intervention, Mr. Speaker, I think I have almost forgotten what the question was.
  17. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Francine Lalonde (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer addresses the minister's mistake but avoids any discussion of the Prime Minister's judgment in the appointment.the member for Beauce made a mistake.
  18. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Francine Lalonde (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer focuses solely on the resignation timing and ignores the listed mistakes and appointment judgment.
  19. misdirected
    Airport SecurityMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer begins by dismissing the question as unrelated to the Beauce affair before giving a partial response on screenings.this has nothing to do with the private life of the member for Beauce
  20. deflected
    Airport SecurityMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts blame to the prior Liberal government instead of addressing current screening procedures.It is a question of an application for a contract that occurred under the Liberal government.
  21. deflected
    Foreign AffairsKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies deception but pivots to private lives and rules without addressing why security concerns were dismissed earlier.We believe and continue to believe that the private lives of Canadian citizens are the private lives of Canadian citizens.
  22. deflected
    Foreign AffairsKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates rules and the resignation without explaining the delay or addressing media coverage of national security.He paid the price for that by offering his resignation and that resignation was accepted.
  23. deflected
    Foreign AffairsUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer reframes the question as government control over personal lives rather than addressing the national security discussion.what I hear from the hon. member is a suggestion that the personal lives of people are a matter that the government should be controlling and inquiring into.
  24. deflected
    Foreign AffairsUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer insists the issue was only about a document and avoids any discussion of risk assessment during the relationship.It mattered not if that document had been left in a restaurant, at a friend's home or at Madam Couillard's home.
  25. partly answered
    HealthMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Acknowledges receipt of report but does not address publishing the research or experts' objections.We have received a report and we will be studying it.
  26. misdirected
    HealthMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). substantive question.Attacks the questioner's motives and party instead of addressing when the government will act.in the paroxysm of self-righteousness, which characterizes NDP policy, he has made a conclusion without having read the report.
  27. deflected
    Canada-United States RelationsNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Denies the premise of the leak without providing new information on who leaked the memo.the hon. member simply asserted as fact something for which he has no evidence whatsoever.
  28. deflected
    Canada-United States RelationsNavdeep Bains (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Repeats prior findings on circulation of memo rather than addressing cleanup of alleged PMO leaks.The memo in question from foreign affairs was not made available to the Prime Minister 's chief of staff until a much later date.
  29. misdirected
    Canada-United States RelationsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Shifts focus to criticizing Liberals and prior questions about private life instead of security breaches.The questions that were asked with regard to the private life of the hon. member for Beauce are not appropriate questions and we continue to stand by that view.
  30. deflected
    Canada-United States RelationsRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores the litany of trust issues and narrows to one document incident without broader accountability.I will resist the temptation for today to respond to the litany that the hon. member raised and focus simply on the question of the documents that were dealt with yesterday
  31. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The provided answer is incomplete and does not address the tender security check question.
  32. partly answered
    Public SafetyMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Addresses the contract point but pivots to criticizing focus on private life rather than fully explaining security process.The fact is that no contract of that type was awarded.
  33. deflected
    JusticeAnita Neville (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the specific allegation of conflict by pivoting to partisan criticism of Liberals.I think what is really upsetting the Liberals is that now we are making the appointments and they are not.
  34. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the policy question by referencing a meeting and sarcastically mentioning YouTube.we will do that without the benefit of YouTube, like the member tries to use from time to time.
  35. deflected
    Aboriginal AffairsMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the premise as hyperbole and lists unrelated meetings instead of addressing systemic negligence.I will admit up front that I will never be able to keep up with the hyperbole of that member.
  36. answered
    Code of ConductMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly explains the judicial appointment process to counter the conflict claim.All individuals, Mr. Speaker, who are interested in a judicial appointment have to apply through the judicial advisory committees.
  37. misdirected
    HealthMs. Judy Wasylycia-Leis (NDP) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer turns to insulting the asker by suggesting she resign rather than addressing federal home care leadership.she should resign from Parliament, run provincially for the leadership of the NDP, and then she can do something about home care in her province.
  38. answered
    Foreign AffairsBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly clarifies that the issue was unsecured documents, not the relationship itself.The issue in question was that documents were left inappropriately in an unsecured place.
  39. partly answered
    Inter-Parliamentary UnionMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer gives a vague assurance of facilitation without committing to easing specific rules.I can assure the House that we are doing everything possible to make this assembly a great success.