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Friday, May 16, 2008 · sitting No. 97

Commons debates Tsawwassen treaty as opposition probes security lapses

The House devoted the largest share of its sitting to debate on the Tsawwassen First Nation Final Agreement Act under Government Orders. Conservative MP John Cummins told the House that fewer than 200 band members voted in a referendum tainted by cash payments and other inducements, and that overlapping claims from eight other bands remain unresolved. Liberal MP Keith Martin praised Cummins for a well-researched speech and said the treaty is the first urban agreement in Canada.

Question Period opened with Liberal MP Bob Rae asking Public Safety Minister Peter Van Loan whether the government had conducted a security review of Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier’s conduct and that of his partner. Van Loan replied that private lives should remain private and accused the Liberals of gossip. Bloc Québécois MPs later pressed the same issue, citing the partner’s past associations, while Van Loan said national security was not at risk.

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Who held the floor · 2008-05-16

Government (Conservative)OppositionOver the day: government 48%, opposition 52% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:1011:0012:0013:00Last speech 13:30Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 20 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
29Another sitting that went nowhereThe House devoted most speaking time to substantive topics yet recorded no votes and advanced no bills. Question period produced mostly deflected or misdirected answers.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

National Defence

Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette said the government had announced three different figures for military spending in one week and called for transparency. Minister of Transport Lawrence Cannon replied that an action plan had been presented openly to the public.

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Forestry Industry

NDP MP Libby Davies asked why the government was directing billions to oil companies while forestry communities such as Mackenzie, B.C., lost mills. Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn said the government had ended the oil-sands tax subsidy and was providing a billion-dollar community development trust.

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Foreign Affairs

Liberal MP Bonnie Brown asked whether the government would support a full international ban on cluster bombs. Parliamentary Secretary Deepak Obhrai said Canada was participating in the Oslo process and had signed the Wellington declaration.

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Atomic Energy of Canada Limited

Liberal MP Omar Alghabra asked whether cancelling the MAPLE reactor project would worsen the medical-isotope shortage. Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn said the project had never produced an isotope and that termination would allow AECL to focus on power reactors.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    National SecurityBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids addressing the requested security review by dismissing the topic as private lives.Mr. Speaker, I am surprised that after anxiously awaiting his first opportunity to ask the first question, the member has instead chosen to ask about people's private and personal lives.
  2. deflected
    National SecurityMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The response shifts to accusing the opposition of gossip instead of engaging the interjection.The hon. member opposite says I should stop insulting people, but that is the line of questioning we are receiving from the Liberal Party right now, which is not just insulting people but inquiring into their private and personal lives.
  3. deflected
    National SecurityBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to a personal attack on Liberals rather than addressing the public interest claim.There was a fellow who once said that the definition of a Liberal is clearly someone who does not even know how to blush because he has lost the capacity to be embarrassed.
  4. misdirected
    National SecurityBob Rae (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's consistency on foreign affairs instead of addressing the travel cost query.it is interesting that the member's party is the same party that has been saying for the last week or so that it is concerned and wants to see Canada stand tall on the world stage, and now it is being critical of the concept of the foreign affairs minister actually representing Canada at international forums such as the Francophonie conference in question.
  5. misdirected
    National SecurityDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The response counters by attacking the Liberal sponsorship scandal rather than answering about the security review.However, the hon. member belongs to a party where for one of its lead organizers in Quebec we know we saw some organized crime when it was engaging in the sponsorship scandal, ripping off taxpayers and lining its pockets.
  6. deflected
    National SecurityDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer labels the question as gossip without addressing whether national security was considered.this member may be fond of gossiping, but the fact is that this is not a national security issue.
  7. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to criticizing the Bloc on sovereignty instead of addressing transparency on military spending.In other matters, I would point out to the hon. member that Ms. Marois has just presented an action plan on sovereignty.
  8. deflected
    National DefenceMr. Pierre Paquette (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the funding history but avoids the manipulation and transparency concerns raised.That is something that took place under the Liberal government.
  9. misdirected
    Minister of Foreign AffairsMs. Pauline Picard (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to attacking the Bloc Québécois instead of addressing security concerns raised.the true and the greatest threat to Canada's security is the separation proposed by the Bloc Québécois.
  10. misdirected
    Minister of Foreign AffairsMs. Pauline Picard (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Answer mocks the Bloc with tabloid references rather than responding to the security risk query.Under this leader of the Bloc Québécois , we can now read Allô Police and other supermarket tabloids.
  11. answered
    Forestry IndustryMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses oil subsidies and aid to forestry communities.It is our government that has ended the tax subsidy for the oil sands projects in future.
  12. misdirected
    Forestry IndustryMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the NDP's past provincial record instead of outlining federal steps on pine beetle risks.I cannot believe the nerve of the NDP members who stand up and raise the pine beetle issue in the House.
  13. partly answered
    National DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains the long-term plan but does not confirm budget provisions.this is a long term plan, and the long term plan calls for 20 years and to spend $30 billion by 2028
  14. misdirected
    National DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to questioning Liberals on carbon tax instead of clarifying defence costs.What Canadians would like to know is what the Liberals' plan is on the carbon tax that they are going to be charging Canadians.
  15. partly answered
    National DefenceMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer outlines plan elements but omits cost details or timeline for specifics.the 20 year plan that the government has announced includes replacing six core fleets, including the destroyers, land combat vehicles and fixed-wing research and rescue aircraft.
  16. misdirected
    National DefenceMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer deflects to carbon tax criticism rather than reconciling conflicting cost figures.Canadians would like to know about the carbon tax that the Liberals will charge them.
  17. partly answered
    Air TransportationMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). loaded question.Addresses existence of discussions but ignores call for minister to act.The CBSA is willing to work closely with the airport on this important issue and hopes to find a resolution upon which they both can agree.
  18. deflected
    Air TransportationMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). substantive question.Repeats that talks are private without answering whether costs will be paid.although we cannot disclose the information about private discussions taking place between the CBSA and the airport, discussions are ongoing pursuant to conditions in the agreement signed by CBSA and the airport.
  19. deflected
    The EnvironmentMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores the expired agreements and pivots to attacking the prior government.After a decade of denial, a decade of neglect from the Liberals, it is this government that is protecting species at risk.
  20. deflected
    The EnvironmentMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.Avoids the funding deadline and again attacks Liberals on sewage.We are the first government that is stopping the dumping of raw sewage, another legacy of the Liberal government.
  21. answered
    Atomic Energy of Canada LimitedMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). substantive question.Directly states the decision will not affect isotope supply and explains why.This will not impact isotope production in Canada, period.
  22. misdirected
    Atomic Energy of Canada LimitedMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.Attacks the prior Liberal government instead of addressing privatization concerns.We all know, under the leadership of the former Liberal government, the Liberals spent hundreds of millions of dollars on this project.
  23. partly answered
    Foreign AffairsMs. Bonnie Brown (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.States participation in Oslo process but does not confirm support for a full ban.We have agreed to participate in the Oslo process.
  24. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Bonnie Brown (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Ignores attendance issue and pivots to attacking Liberals on carbon tax.Perhaps the Liberals should talk more about their carbon tax, which Canadians are more interested in because it will destroy the economy.
  25. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids the question on embassy conditions by citing court proceedings.as the matter is currently now before the courts, it would be inappropriate for us to comment right now.
  26. misdirected
    National DefenceMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The response attacks the NDP rather than addressing the CDA contract details.I know there are people in the country, and the NDP are among them, who do not like to see our military front and centre.
  27. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Gary Lunn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to attacking a Liberal carbon tax instead of the Beaufort leases.We do not have a plan to raise the price of gasoline to $2.25 a litre.
  28. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.The response accuses the asker of attacking scientists and first nations rather than addressing spill risks.Why is that member attacking first nations? Why is he attacking Canadian scientists? Shame on him.
  29. partly answered
    Portrait GalleryMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the bidding process but does not address why the capital region was rejected.We believe it is important that Canadian heritage be accessible to all Canadians, from coast to coast to coast.
  30. deflected
    Portrait GalleryMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites external support instead of confirming the location decision.the Minister of Canadian Heritage has received numerous amounts of correspondence supporting our government's position.
  31. deflected
    Labour Market TrainingMs. France Bonsant (Bloc) asked Mrs. Lynne Yelich (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists general programs without confirming the Quebec transfer.the Government of Canada has programs for all Canadians from coast to coast to coast, throughout ten provinces and three territories.
  32. partly answered
    Interparliamentary AffairsMs. France Bonsant (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer affirms support but shifts blame to Liberals for delays.we have to work with the decision-makers to move things forward.
  33. answered
    Post-Secondary EducationMr. Michael Savage (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly states the government's action on the issue.Canada has approached the government of the U.K. to talk about revisiting the issue, as I said yesterday.
  34. deflected
    SportMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the concern but redirects to local solutions instead of addressing federal action.I think local amateur sporting organizations can take care of some of these things.
  35. deflected
    SportMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Responds by promoting alternative approaches rather than addressing the call for a national program.We believe in supporting, as I said, local sports organizations.
  36. partly answered
    TasersMr. Don Bell (Liberal) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). substantive question.The response notes ongoing processes without specifying action on the recommendation.As more information becomes available, we will deal with the issue.
  37. deflected
    Regional Economic DevelopmentMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked Mr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific challenge about the list and funding decision.CED continues to support economic organizations by funding one-time projects that are time-limited and time-defined and generate concrete and measurable results.
  38. partly answered
    HealthMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Mr. Steven Fletcher (Conservative). substantive question.The response emphasizes existing safety measures without addressing the call to ban the implants.We have a very stringent mechanism to review these products.