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Thursday, May 15, 2008 · sitting No. 96
Commons debates aboriginal women's shelters report as defence plan draws fire
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on a concurrence motion for the fourth report of the Standing Committee on Status of Women, moved by Liberal MP Tina Keeper. The report calls for increased core funding for aboriginal women's shelters and an end to certain funding practices. Conservative MP Rod Bruinooge moved to adjourn the debate, leaving the motion unresolved.
In Question Period, Liberal MP Ralph Goodale pressed the Prime Minister on the absence of a detailed defence strategy and costing, while the Prime Minister defended the plan to rebuild the forces over 20 years. NDP MP Jack Layton questioned the government on rising energy costs and the lack of a consumer protection plan.
Decided that day
- C-47 advanced to second reading
- C-548 introduced
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Who held the floor · 2008-05-15
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Family Homes on Reserves and Matrimonial Interests or Rights Act
Liberal MP Paul Szabo said the Assembly of First Nations viewed the consultation process on Bill C-47 as hollow, while Conservative MP Harold Albrecht cited 109 consultation sessions across Canada.
Read the exchangeForeign Affairs
Liberal MP Marlene Jennings asked whether the Prime Minister had lost confidence in the foreign affairs minister after security concerns, and Conservative MP Maxime Bernier defended the government's record on international engagement.
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Liberal MP Mark Holland asked whether any cabinet members had been interviewed by the RCMP in the Cadman matter, and Conservative MP James Moore said the only offer made to Cadman was to rejoin the Conservative caucus.
Read the exchangePrivilege
NDP MP Olivia Chow raised a question of privilege over government advertising on Bill C-50, and Conservative MP Peter Van Loan said the complaint did not meet the timeliness requirement under parliamentary procedure.
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Conservative MP Richard Harris asked when the government would deliver its promised apology for residential schools, and Parliamentary Secretary Rod Bruinooge said the Prime Minister would issue the apology on June 11.
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- misdirectedNational DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the prior Liberal government instead of addressing whether the announcement showed respect for the forces.
They were on the record, receiving it very well and being very glad that the decade of darkness under the previous government was over.
- partly answeredNational DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the cost figures but then shifts to attacking the Liberals rather than addressing the two-year timeline or lack of details.
The $30 billion figure represents the size of the budget of the Department of National Defence at the end of the 20 year period.
- deflectedNational DefenceRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists equipment and troop numbers while attacking the Liberals instead of tabling a detailed strategy or correcting the $10 billion error claim.
I expect every step along the way the Liberal Party will oppose rebuilding the Canadian military, but it never hesitated to send them into dangerous combat situations.
- partly answeredNational DefenceDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.The answer clarifies the $30 billion versus $45-50 billion distinction but ignores the request to identify who is telling the truth about the total cost.
The budget by the end of 20 years is going to be approximately $30 billion, but the capital cost acquisition of six major pieces of equipment is going to be around $45 billion to $50 billion.
- deflectedNational DefenceDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats prior talking points about the decade of darkness and equipment without tabling the strategy or addressing transparency demands.
It is very clear, after the decade of darkness of that party, which sent our troops into harm's way without equipment, that this government will have equipment for our soldiers.
- partly answeredNational DefenceMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the $30 billion annual budget and $45-50 billion capital figures but does not reconcile them with the $96 billion forecast mentioned.
The budget for National Defence will be $30 billion in 20 years, after the rebuilding of the forces that we have proposed.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer asserts clarity on troops and equipment while attacking the Bloc instead of promising to table a foreign policy or detailed military plan.
I know that the Bloc is opposed to these investments in Canada's military, yet it is asking for economic spinoffs from these investments.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the three priorities of the strategy without addressing the claim that a detailed document was shelved to mislead the public.
this week the Prime Minister and the Minister of Defence announced the Canada first defence strategy based on three priorities.
- deflectedNational DefenceMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.Answer ignores secrecy and transparency query to attack Liberals instead.
Canadians are proud that after a decade of darkness by the Liberals, this government is finally rebuilding our defence capabilities.
- deflectedEnergy CostsJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses global prices and NDP website but never addresses ombudsman appointment.
The government tried to protect consumers by reducing taxes, but unfortunately the NDP and the other opposition parties voted against those reductions for taxpayers and consumers.
- deflectedEnergy CostsJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats attack on NDP carbon-tax stance without engaging proposed solutions or ombudsman.
This is the real opinion of the NDP members. It is why they back every measure from the Liberals and everybody else to propose carbon taxes and higher gas taxes.
- misdirectedNational DefenceBryon Wilfert (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). substantive question.Answer labels question hypocritical and attacks prior Liberal record rather than addressing current aircraft fleet.
it is amazing to have a hypocritical question come from the party on that side which was responsible for the search and rescue aircraft and did not do anything.
- deflectedNational DefenceBryon Wilfert (Liberal) asked Mr. Deepak Obhrai (Conservative). loaded question.Answer cites past spending and decade of darkness without giving any firm delivery date for new aircraft.
despite the decade of darkness, this government has acted.
- deflectedForeign AffairsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists UN and Darfur activities but never addresses minister's status or possible replacement.
I am proud of our record since we have been in power because we have been an active member of the United Nations.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses questions as silly about personal lives and attacks opposition voting record instead of confirming security checks.
the opposition members continue to ask silly questions about people's personal lives.
- answeredMinister of Foreign AffairsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly confirms the existence of the stated security rules.
- misdirectedMinister of Foreign AffairsMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the Bloc Québécois instead of addressing the investigation question.
Without an agenda and no longer even able to talk about referendums or separation, the eternal leader of the Bloc Québécois has been reduced to common gossip.
- partly answeredAir TransportationMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses CBSA willingness to resolve but does not confirm granting special status.
CBSA is willing to work closely with the airport authority on this important issue and it hopes to find a resolution.
- partly answeredAir TransportationMr. Mario Laframboise (Bloc) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). substantive question.Answer notes ongoing discussions but avoids committing to settling fees or status.
discussions are ongoing and pursuant to the conditions in the agreement signed by CBSA with the airport and CBSA does hope to find a resolution to the current issue.
- deflectedRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). loaded question.Answer reframes as internal matter without identifying any instructor.
the commissioner of the RCMP made an announcement to create a strategic communication position within the RCMP and that is an internal and an operational matter.
- deflectedRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses the premise as crazy and restates non-interference without addressing control motive.
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the member personally instead of confirming any RCMP interviews.
no Liberal question period farce is ever fully complete without a cameo appearance by the member for Ajax—Pickering
- misdirectedEthicsMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates the Cadman offer and attacks the asker rather than answering yes or no.
taxpayers do not deserve members of Parliament like him shooting off their mouths, getting themselves into lawsuits and asking taxpayers to pay their legal bills.
- deflectedCopyrightMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer jokes about the member's style instead of addressing the copyright policy.
I would like to assure him today that his exaggeration, hyperbole and overacting that he has copyrighted will not be prohibited under any legislation the government introduces.
- deflectedCopyrightMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer avoids explaining why WIPO was not debated first by deferring discussion to a future bill.
I would suggest that my hon. friend await the copyright bill and then at that time he can debate DMCA, WIPO, and all the other acronyms that he wishes to bring to the floor of the House of Commons.
- misdirectedFilm IndustryMs. Tina Keeper (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The response attacks the opposition's past record instead of addressing the bill's current impact on filmmakers.
that is truly a hypocritical question given that this is what was proposed by the Liberal Party when it was in power.
- misdirectedFilm IndustryMs. Tina Keeper (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to the member's past vote rather than explaining effects on the film industry.
in fact, the member is refusing to admit that she voted for this bill when it was introduced in the House last fall.
- partly answeredMont-Tremblant International AirportMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges ongoing talks but refuses to disclose details or commit to a timeline.
discussions are ongoing and pursuant to the conditions in the agreement signed by CBSA and that airport, CBSA hopes to find a resolution they can both agree on.
- deflectedMont-Tremblant International AirportMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Mr. Dave MacKenzie (Conservative). substantive question.The response repeats that it is a private matter without addressing the call for an immediate solution.
as I have already indicated, the matter is a private matter between CBSA and the airport.
- partly answeredHeritage BuildingsMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer denies delays but offers only a vague assurance that discussions continue.
we are pursuing our discussions.
- deflectedHeritage BuildingsMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The response criticizes the member and defers to experts without committing to decisions.
The member has been making a scene about this since the beginning, but she knows that she cannot deliver the goods when it comes to the armoury.
- misdirectedCanadian Coast GuardGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the previous government's record instead of correcting the disputed claim about the Coast Guard College.
I inherited a major mess and I inherited it from that member.
- deflectedCanada Post CorporationMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the bill's purpose but sidesteps the contradiction with the review by deferring to process.
Bill C-14 is still before the House. The legislative process will follow its course during the Canada Post Corporation strategic review.
- deflectedCanada Post CorporationMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer claims agreement to maintain delivery but ignores the bill, cuts, and moratorium request entirely.
firmly and with determination, the House agreed to maintain and restore rural mail delivery and that is exactly what the government is going to undertake in the coming weeks and months.
- answeredCanadian Coast GuardMr. Rodger Cuzner (Liberal) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer directly rebuts the claims of political downgrading and confirms training and operations are unaffected.
The Canadian Coast Guard College has over 30 boats that it uses, two similar to the ones that have left and almost the same size.
- partly answeredBusiness of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists bills for debate but omits the specific schedule, estimates evenings, and document details requested.
today we will continue to debate Bill C-47 , which is a bill to provide basic rights to on reserve individuals to protect them and their children in the event of a relationship breakdown
- answeredPrivilegeMs. Olivia Chow (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the procedural validity by citing rules on timeliness of privilege questions.
The first point I would like to raise is that the member did not raise the question of privilege at the earliest opportunity.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderGeoff Regan (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses tabling a different document instead of responding to the Coast Guard funding document request.
I am quite happy to table that document, in both official languages, at this time so the official opposition House leader will have an opportunity to familiarize himself with the matters he was asking questions on today.