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Thursday, February 7, 2008 · sitting No. 46
Prebudget consultations take up most of Commons time
Conservative MP Diane Ablonczy moved that the House take note of the prebudget consultations undertaken by the Standing Committee on Finance. Members agreed to split the allotted time into two 10-minute speeches each. Conservative MP Dean Del Mastro opened the debate by thanking groups that appeared before the committee and noting the quality of their presentations.
Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper on the Afghanistan mission, accusing the government of wasting a year after Parliament voted to end combat operations in February 2009. Harper replied that NATO had been informed of Canada's position and that the choice remained to strengthen or abandon the mission. Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe and NDP Leader Jack Layton raised the manufacturing crisis and health-care shortages in separate exchanges with Harper.
Decided that day
- C-37 advanced at second reading
- C-41 received royal assent
- Three new bills introduced
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Who held the floor · 2008-02-07
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Other moments
HIV-AIDS among Aboriginal People
NDP MP Libby Davies moved to adjourn the House for an emergency debate on rising HIV infection rates among aboriginal people in Vancouver East and across Canada. Conservative MP Steven Fletcher asked Davies to reflect on 13 years of Liberal mismanagement of the file.
Read the exchangeCommittees of the House
Conservative MP Rob Merrifield presented the third report of the Standing Committee on Finance on prebudget consultations. Conservative MP Rick Casson presented the second report of the Standing Committee on National Defence on procurement.
Read the exchangeCanadian Forces Superannuation Act
NDP MP Peter Stoffer introduced three bills to end CPP clawbacks on superannuation for veterans and RCMP members, provide free passports to veterans and seniors, and prohibit mining companies from using freshwater lakes as tailings sites.
Read the exchangePetitions
NDP Leader Jack Layton presented a petition on the Bangladesh flood that killed more than 3,500 people. Liberal MP Mike Wallace presented petitions on human trafficking and HIV-AIDS prevention.
Read the exchangeQuestion Period, exchange by exchange
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- deflectedAfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer restates mission details and conditions without addressing the claim of wasting a year.
NATO is also aware that this government is willing to extend that commitment if we can get certain conditions fulfilled by NATO countries.
- deflectedAfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats Manley recommendations and binary choice without addressing the never-ending mission accusation.
We accept the recommendations of the Manley panel, namely that we should extend our mission if NATO provides more troops and equipment.
- misdirectedAfghanistanStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts focus to demanding truth from all parties instead of addressing mismanagement or never-ending mission claims.
On that fundamental question, those two choices, Canadians deserve the truth from every political party.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer refers to panel consultations and military agreement without answering the three specific questions posed.
In terms of the additional troops and equipment that the panel identified as necessary to training, to long term success and exit, we have discussed those recommendations with the chief of the defence staff and the military.
- partly answeredAfghanistanMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states the 1000 troops requirement and NATO precondition but does not specify origin or exact role of troops.
Without a response from NATO to these requests, Canada will not extend the mission in Afghanistan.
- deflectedManufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer highlights existing plan without addressing calls to improve it or set aside election rumours.
The community development trust is a plan that will help many industries in several provinces.
- deflectedManufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists past actions and notes Bloc support without committing to use surplus for immediate improvements.
with two budgets, two economic statements from the Minister of Finance and a softwood lumber agreement, this government is taking action to help the forestry sector and other sectors of our economy.
- deflectedManufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer emphasizes past competitiveness measures instead of addressing use of surplus for immediate sector aid.
The commitment of $1 billion across Canada for the most vulnerable sectors is an initiative that deserves to be recognized.
- misdirectedManufacturing and Forestry IndustriesMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Bloc Québécois record instead of addressing the question on workers in Maniwaki.
for 18 years the Bloc Québécois has done zero itself in terms of projects, bills, jobs created.
- partly answeredHealthJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses wait times and cooperation with provinces but rejects the premise without covering privatization or shortages.
I do not agree that the health care problems are getting worse, although I do agree that health care remains a major challenge for this country.
- partly answeredHealthJack Layton (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.The answer discusses cooperation and progress on wait lists but does not address private clinics or specific shortages.
We are starting to make progress.
- deflectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the existing agreement without addressing notification to Parliament before resuming transfers.
The Canadian Forces have the discretion to enforce the agreement in the field.
- misdirectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer invites debate and constructive proposals instead of addressing the question on safeguards or the scandal.
I would ask my hon. colleague to take part in this debate with us and to present constructive proposals to help Canada have a mission that responds to the concerns of our country and the Canadian Forces and to what the Afghan government and the international community are seeking.
- misdirectedNatural ResourcesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition for inconsistency rather than explaining the delay in informing the minister.
One week they are saying we did not act soon enough and on another week they are saying we should have acted sooner.
- misdirectedNatural ResourcesMr. Omar Alghabra (Liberal) asked Tony Clement (Conservative). loaded question.The answer again attacks Liberal leadership instead of clarifying the timeline of when ministers were informed.
When is the opposition going to show leadership on that side of the House?
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the transfer agreement without explaining what happens to detainees who are not transferred.
That agreement is still in place and they may, at their discretion, transfer Afghan detainees.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer shifts focus to criticizing the Bloc's position on a debate rather than clarifying detainee transfers.
Why is the Bloc Québécois against letting Canadians have an open and transparent debate on the future of our mission in Afghanistan?
- deflectedElection ReturnsMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the question about Conservative delays by accusing opposition parties of hiding activities.
the opposition parties, including the Bloc Québécois, do not want a balanced debate that would examine the activities of the Bloc Québécois and the Liberals.
- deflectedElection ReturnsMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to demanding scrutiny of opposition parties instead of addressing Conservative committee delays.
if all the activities of the opposition parties are above board, then what are they hiding?
- deflectedTradeScott Brison (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer offers vague praise for standing up for Canadians without addressing ITAR exemptions or the specific case.
What we do for the good of Canadians is always in the interests of Canadians.
- partly answeredTradeScott Brison (Liberal) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the review process and that no approvals have been granted for the MDA transaction.
To this point, no such transaction has been submitted to the minister and no approvals have been granted.
- partly answeredGovernment ContractsJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the contract's value and admits administrative rules were not followed but will be going forward.
Administrative functions were not followed, but the rules will be followed from here on out.
- deflectedGovernment ContractsJohn McCallum (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer begins to restate prior points but cuts off without addressing the Treasury Board president's inaction.
- deflectedGovernment ContractsMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats value-for-money claims and pivots to praising budget 2007 instead of addressing rule-breaking.
It is part of what brought us budget 2007, a document that resolved the fiscal imbalance that the Liberals left for 13 long years.
- deflectedGovernment ContractsMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer pivots to budget 2007 infrastructure spending instead of addressing the contract breach or sanctions.
Good value for money was provided.
- answeredJusticeJudy Sgro (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly states there are no plans to introduce legislation on the death penalty.
The government has no plans to change its policy and introduce any legislation in this area.
- answeredJusticeIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly states respect for Supreme Court decisions and no intention to legislate on the death penalty.
We respect the decisions and the directions of the Supreme Court.
- deflectedThe EconomyJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.Answer discusses past tax cuts and accuses Liberals of inconsistency rather than addressing current economic concerns or the minister's statement.
It is a little in contrast to what the member for Markham—Unionville is asking.
- deflectedThe EconomyJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.Answer highlights economic fundamentals and expansion instead of addressing the quoted remark or CPP/RRSP losses.
We are experiencing the second longest period of economic expansion in Canadian history
- partly answeredInfrastructureMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges ongoing work with Shannon but does not commit to the requested additional $11 million.
We are working with them every day to try to make the situation as good as we can.
- deflectedInfrastructureMs. Christiane Gagnon (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.Answer lists other Quebec projects and notes the matter is in court instead of addressing the promise to regain ownership of the bridge.
As my hon. colleague is aware, this matter is presently before the courts.
- misdirectedElection ExpensesKaren Redman (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks Liberals for blocking broader investigations and quotes media criticism instead of addressing the committee vote or in-and-out scheme.
Opposition MPs are perverting the role of parliamentary committees and turning them into courts of inquisition to attack one another and settle their petty partisan squabbles
- deflectedFirst Nations Technical InstituteMs. Jean Crowder (NDP) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.The question frames the issue with an unsupported premise of mere talk and demands a funding commitment that the answer sidesteps by emphasizing business plans instead.
We have for the last several years attempted to get this institute to come up with a business plan that would make it sustainable in the longer run.
- deflectedStanding Committee on Procedure and House AffairsMr. Yvon Godin (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The question assumes partisan delay and misconduct without evidence and the answer evades by offering only a general endorsement of the chair.
I know the chair of that committee and I believe he always takes his responsibilities seriously.