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Monday, November 26, 2007 · sitting No. 24
Tackling Violent Crime Act advances at report stage amid opposition criticism
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on report stage of Bill C-2, the Tackling Violent Crime Act. Liberal MP Brian Murphy said the omnibus measure combined earlier bills already examined in committee and noted some improvements. Bloc Québécois MP Paul Crête called the legislation a political move by the Conservatives to appear decisive on crime.
In Question Period the main exchanges concerned the environment. Liberal leader Stéphane Dion accused the Prime Minister of sabotaging the Commonwealth conference by refusing binding targets. Environment Minister John Baird replied that Canada insisted on commitments from all major emitters including the United States, China and India.
Further exchanges covered the manufacturing sector and infrastructure funding. Bloc Québécois MP Paule Brunelle pressed Industry Minister Jim Prentice to match Quebec's assistance plan. Liberal MP Paul Zed criticized the government's response to the municipal infrastructure deficit.
Decided that day
- Bill C-2 passed
- Clause 42 deletion defeated
- S-203 advanced in first chamber
- S-220 completed second reading
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Who held the floor · 2007-11-26
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Old Age Security Act
Conservative MP Garry Breitkreuz opened debate on Bill C-362 to ease residency requirements for old age security benefits, praising Canada's pension system.
Read the exchangeYouth Criminal Justice Act
Liberal MP Ruby Dhalla said Bill C-25 amending the Youth Criminal Justice Act must address root causes of youth crime such as poverty rather than rely on deterrence.
Read the exchangePoverty
NDP MP Peggy Nash cited a United Way report showing rising poverty rates among Toronto families and called on the government to redirect corporate tax savings to social programs.
Read the exchangeJustice
Liberal MP Sue Barnes asked Justice Minister Rob Nicholson whether Canada would seek clemency for Canadian Chen Naizhi facing execution in China.
Read the exchangeEducation
NDP MP Denise Savoie said the government profits from high interest rates on student loans and should reduce those rates immediately.
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- deflectedThe EnvironmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer counters premise with government targets but avoids addressing sabotage accusation.
Canada believes we have an important leadership role to play.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberal record and opposition leader instead of addressing denial or Bali sabotage claim.
Why? Because the leader of the opposition never did anything to fight climate change.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to big emitters and past Liberal inaction without addressing sabotage or binding targets.
We are not prepared to allow the big emitters, the big polluters like the United States, China and India, to get off the hook.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer emphasizes need for all countries and past inaction but ignores emissions rise claim and Bali question.
For 10 long years after the Kyoto protocol was signed, Canada did absolutely nothing while the Liberal Party was in power.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer cites media quote and calls for all emitters without addressing binding targets or emissions rise to 2050.
This is a crisis of environmental and world proportions.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer rejects premise and stresses all big countries must act but does not address sabotage or Howard comparison.
We think that all big countries should take action—that everyone should take action—to solve this serious problem and fight climate change.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly explains timing of action by other countries and Canada's past rise but pivots to big emitters.
Great Britain, Germany and France began to take action ten years ago.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Answer focuses on Kyoto flaws and need for all countries without addressing embarrassment or economic harm claims.
That protocol required countries right across the world to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, but it did one thing badly.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Bernard Bigras (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific claim about refusing opposition accompaniment and instead recites policy goals.
We want to see a regime that would have binding targets on all the big countries.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer sidesteps the question about future accountability and repeats the need for China and India to participate.
Aspirational goals do not cut it.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked John Baird (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer avoids addressing domestic targets or excuses and pivots to the need for binding targets from other countries.
We need countries such as the United States, China and India to accept binding targets, just as Canada is prepared to do.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentLucienne Robillard (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the Liberal record instead of addressing the Prime Minister's stance or the Bali conference.
Over the last 10 years greenhouse gas emissions have spiralled out of control, both here in Canada, when that member was in the Liberal cabinet, and around the world.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentLucienne Robillard (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's past record rather than addressing the Bali conference or isolation claims.
The member had an opportunity to stand up for the environment when she was in cabinet.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the individual Liberal member instead of responding to the isolation or Commonwealth claims.
It was the member for Ottawa South
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the question on binding targets and leadership and instead criticizes past Liberal inaction.
that member failed to do it on the throne speech.
- partly answeredManufacturing SectorMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the manufacturing crisis and states the federal role but provides no specific new measures.
I realize that the current situation is not good.
- deflectedManufacturing SectorMs. Paule Brunelle (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites broad economic stats instead of addressing the call for immediate action on manufacturing.
Our country continues to have a strong and healthy economy.
- partly answeredManufacturing SectorMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims ongoing action via tax policy but does not commit to the specific measures requested.
It has been very concerted action that is helping the manufacturing sector.
- misdirectedManufacturing SectorMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to job-creation numbers and attacks Bloc isolationism rather than addressing plant closures.
The answer is not Bloc isolationism and protectionism.
- misdirectedInfrastructureMr. Paul Zed (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the member's vote record instead of addressing the infrastructure deficit timeline.
why did he vote against the largest infrastructure program since the end of the second world war
- deflectedInfrastructureMr. Paul Zed (Liberal) asked Mr. James Moore (Conservative). substantive question.The answer disputes the premise about Liberal programs rather than outlining new commitments.
If the Liberals got the job done, why are the mayors complaining?
- partly answeredFederal-Provincial RelationsMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges under-representation and states intent to add seats but does not explain differential treatment.
We are looking into correcting that, to give them more seats.
- deflectedFederal-Provincial RelationsMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates the plan to protect small-province guarantees without engaging the revenge premise.
We are seeking to correct that and we are doing it in a way that respects the guarantees to smaller provinces without wiping them out.
- deflectedPovertyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites poverty-reduction statistics and training spending but does not address targeted help for Toronto families.
As Statistics Canada reveals, over the last number of years instances of poverty have actually decreased.
- partly answeredPovertyMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.Addresses job numbers but sidesteps poverty gap and unemployment insurance concerns.
The truth is, in the last 22 months, 652,000 jobs have been created in this country.
- misdirectedPovertyMs. Ruby Dhalla (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.Ignores the poverty report and instead attacks the Liberal plan and leader.
The Star also points out that the Liberal leader has no idea of what it is like to live in poverty.
- partly answeredPovertyMs. Ruby Dhalla (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.Lists government programs but does not address the call for a national poverty plan.
put in place a working income tax benefit.
- answeredJusticeSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Directly states the government will review the specific case mentioned.
With respect to the case in China, we will have a close look at that.
- deflectedJusticeSue Barnes (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). loaded question.Gives a general consular response instead of addressing the death penalty principle or specific case.
With respect to human rights and standing up for human rights, this government has a record second to none.
- deflectedGuaranteed Income SupplementMr. Yves Lessard (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.Notes indexing exists but avoids the request for full retroactivity on GIS.
The Canada pension plan, old age security and the guaranteed income supplement are extraordinarily important programs.
- deflectedInternational AidMs. Caroline St-Hilaire (Bloc) asked Mr. Brian Pallister (Conservative). substantive question.Highlights existing aid efforts without addressing the 0.7% GDP target shortfall.
This government is committed as well to doubling the international aid envelope in Africa by 2010 from 2002 levels.
- answeredNational Capital CommissionMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked John Baird (Conservative). loaded question.Affirms support for the existing greenbelt policy, implicitly rejecting development plans.
I completely agree with the member.
- partly answeredEducationMs. Denise Savoie (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.Answer corrects the profit claim but pivots to reforms without addressing interest rate reduction.
In fact, the Canadian student loan program does not make a profit.
- deflectedEducationMs. Denise Savoie (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses rhetoric and corrects facts but avoids the specific policy criticisms by restating investments and reforms.
The member is wrong on her facts.
- answeredAirbusRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses the request by referencing the letter and response to the committee chair.
I received a letter from the chair of the ethics committee on Thursday.
- partly answeredSeniorsMs. Louise Thibault (Independent) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the issue and explains one reform but does not address the advertising campaign or GIS improvements raised.
This is why we have taken a number of steps to ensure that people are more aware of the benefits available to them.
- misdirectedPoints of OrderRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Rob Nicholson (Conservative). substantive question.Answer avoids tabling the letter and instead redirects by suggesting the asker consult a colleague.
Why does the hon. member not just talk to his colleague?
- misdirectedPoints of OrderMs. Peggy Nash (NDP) asked Mr. Richard Harris (Conservative). substantive question.Answer ignores the request to correct the record and instead raises an unrelated prior incident.
this is not the same point of order.