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Friday, November 16, 2007 · sitting No. 18
Senate tenure bill advances to second reading amid constitutionality debate
Government House leader Peter Van Loan moved second reading of Bill C-19 to amend the Constitution Act 1867 on Senate tenure. The bill stands at the second-reading stage after initial debate.
In Question Period Liberal MP Irwin Cotler pressed Justice Minister Stockwell Day to delay extradition of witness Karlheinz Schreiber for the Airbus inquiry. Day said competing public interests in the inquiry and extradition agreements must both be respected.
NDP MP Paul Dewar and Bloc Québécois MP Réal Ménard raised Afghan detainee issues with Parliamentary Secretary Laurie Hawn. Hawn said investigations continue with Afghan authorities after new allegations surfaced.
Decided that day
- C-23 introduced
- C-18 advanced to second reading
- C-24 introduced
- C-476 introduced
- C-477 introduced
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Who held the floor · 2007-11-16
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Constitution Act, 2007 (Senate tenure)
NDP MP Paul Dewar asked House leader Peter Van Loan why the government does not hold a referendum on Senate changes rather than consult only insiders.
Read the exchangeRoyal Canadian Mounted Police
Liberal MP John McKay asked Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day for a national review of taser use after video of the Vancouver death was released.
Read the exchangeInfrastructure
NDP MP David Christopherson told Transport Minister Lawrence Cannon that only half the promised infrastructure money reaches municipalities while cities face a $60-billion deficit.
Read the exchangePublic Safety
Bloc Québécois MP Thierry St-Cyr urged Parliamentary Secretary Stockwell Day to seize vehicles of cigarette smugglers under the Excise Act 2001.
Read the exchangeCanada Student Financial Assistance Act
Conservative MP Daryl Kramp defended the government's record on post-secondary funding while debating Bill C-284 to alter administration of access grants.
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- deflectedAirbusIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites procedure and declines to comment specifically instead of addressing the request to postpone extradition.
When an individual is in such a situation, it is not an appropriate time for the government to make specific comments on that individual.
- partly answeredAirbusIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges competing interests and notes the witness would still need to be available but does not commit to postponing extradition.
In any case, what happens is that a person would still have to be available to testify.
- deflectedAirbusIrwin Cotler (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.The answer references past practice and subpoena powers while avoiding any commitment on using ministerial discretion to delay extradition.
the full public inquiry comes complete with the power of subpoena and requiring the key individuals to testify wherever they might be.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats the subpoena point and dismisses the question as scripted without confirming action on extradition.
I realize the member opposite did not have time to change his script after I just answered in detail that question, so I will respond to it again.
- misdirectedAirbusMr. Mark Holland (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition leader's past positions and questions the inquiry's legitimacy rather than addressing the extradition decision.
this member is actually undermining the work of Professor Johnston.
- deflectedAirbusMs. Monique Guay (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer dismisses the witness's statements and pivots to the inquiry process without addressing postponement authority.
I am interested in the words and plans of Professor Johnston, but not in the comments of an individual who may be implicated in the process.
- deflectedAirbusMs. Monique Guay (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer emphasizes the inquiry process and Professor Johnston without confirming any intent to postpone extradition.
We have initiated a process for a very open inquiry.
- misdirectedAirbusMs. Pauline Picard (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.The answer counters with an attack on a Bloc colleague's past affiliation instead of addressing the appointments or inquiry mandate concerns.
based on my friend's approach, perhaps she would have a problem with one of her own colleagues from the Bloc Québécois having at one time been a member of Mr. Mulroney's caucus.
- deflectedAirbusMs. Pauline Picard (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer restates the existence of a mandate without addressing whether it covers the Minister of Labour.
Professor Johnston has set the mandate. I can assure my hon. colleague that there will be an open and transparent process for answering questions.
- partly answeredAirbusMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the inquiry's scope and powers but avoids commenting on the specific deportation request.
the Minister of Justice does not comment on specific cases related to extradition, but I can say and give the member the assurance that this is going to be a full public inquiry.
- misdirectedAirbusMr. Pat Martin (NDP) asked Mr. Pierre Poilievre (Conservative). substantive question.The answer pivots to attacking the previous Liberal government instead of addressing the request to implement lobbyist changes.
that accountability act forbids public office holders, ministers, parliamentary secretaries and their staff from engaging in lobbying for five years.
- deflectedAirbusRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.The answer accuses the opposition of politics and avoids addressing the contradiction with Mulroney's signed statement.
we well understand the politics of what is happening here.
- deflectedAirbusRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.The answer references a letter to the asker and restates the inquiry without addressing the apology request.
We understand that he received a letter about his comments on this subject.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer urges withholding information until the inquiry without addressing who the chief of staff worked for.
it is important for people who have information not to reveal it until the appropriate time as part of the open and transparent inquiry.
- misdirectedAirbusMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts to criticizing Liberals and defending a member instead of addressing the chief of staff issue.
there are Liberals in this House today who were also involved with Mr. Mulroney.
- answeredAfghanistanMr. Réal Ménard (Bloc) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly explains the government's immediate action on the allegations and ongoing work with Afghan authorities.
as a matter of fact, the government took action immediately when substantiated or apparently substantiated allegations were brought forward.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Réal Ménard (Bloc) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). substantive question.Answer dismisses the call to stop transfers and pivots to investigation and accusations against prisoners.
in case my colleague is hard of listening, we are working with the Afghan authorities.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Marcel Lussier (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses EU-France engagement but does not address the risk of taxes on Quebec exports.
Mr. Fillon was very clear that the purpose of this plan was not to target Canada.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentMr. Marcel Lussier (Bloc) asked John Baird (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks previous Liberal government instead of addressing costs or abandonment of industry.
Quebec gave us Jean Chrétien and the leader of the Liberal party to work on resolving this problem.
- deflectedAirbusMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer criticizes opposition for changing positions rather than explaining limits of the mandate.
Their leader could not get over it, but he finally understood that it is going ahead.
- deflectedAirbusMs. Yasmin Ratansi (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends Johnston's reputation instead of confirming in writing that government actions are included.
if the member opposite knows anything about the sterling reputation of Professor Johnston, she would know that he is not the type of person who would take kindly to the thought of being, as she said, handcuffed.
- misdirectedAirbusMs. Tina Keeper (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer shifts to Liberal $40 million scandal and urges forwarding info instead of addressing Doucet contacts.
when it comes to details of where the $40 million in stolen money went, which have come out through the Gomery inquiry, with Liberal friends they seem to have no information at all.
- deflectedAirbusMs. Tina Keeper (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer repeats call for inquiry and information sharing without committing to table lobbying records.
I encourage members, if they have information that will help us and Professor Johnston get to the bottom of these questions, to by all means bring that information forward.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.Answer calls facts wrong and defends new arrangement instead of explaining why tracking and agreement compliance remain poor.
it should come as no surprise that my hon. colleague has his facts completely wrong.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Paul Dewar (NDP) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner personally rather than addressing the detainee monitoring claim.
For the member to suggest that somehow Canada is negligent or criminal in this is absolutely absurd and he ought to be ashamed of himself.
- deflectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to general nation-building instead of responding to the specific question about the governor's statement on beating prisoners.
We are not abusing anybody's rights. We are working together with the Afghan authorities to ensure that those rights are sustained under the Geneva Convention and every other agreement we have entered into.
- misdirectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). loaded question.Answer insults the member and pivots to Canadian efforts abroad instead of addressing the transfer stoppage question.
the only thing that is confirmed here is the standing violation of common sense in this House from the member.
- partly answeredRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges ongoing investigations but does not directly address whether withholding the tape was acceptable.
A number of investigations are ongoing to determine what exactly happened and what series of circumstances could have led to such a disastrous conclusion to that particular matter.
- answeredRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceJohn McKay (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly confirms that a review of taser use was requested shortly after the incident.
Just a few days after this tragic incident took place almost a month ago, I asked for a review in terms of tasers themselves.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMr. Thierry St-Cyr (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer corrects a factual claim but does not address whether the RCMP will seize vehicles of smugglers.
I never said it was illegal to seize vehicles whose owners break the law.
- deflectedPublic SafetyMr. Thierry St-Cyr (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer focuses on correcting the member's wording about what the minister said rather than addressing the interdepartmental committee proposal.
It is important to state the facts, the truth.
- answeredJusticeMr. Mario Silva (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the government has no intention of changing the law on the death penalty.
the death penalty is no longer part of Canadian law and this government has absolutely no intention of changing that.
- partly answeredInfrastructureMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer supplies concrete funding figures and delivery mechanisms in direct response to the infrastructure funding query.
We have committed $33 billion, unprecedented, of which $17 billion will be going to local communities and to municipalities across the country.
- answeredInfrastructureMr. David Christopherson (NDP) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer cites a specific recent announcement and dollar amount tied to the municipality named in the question.
we announced the FLOW project in the greater Toronto area, with $83 million for the BRT, the bus rapid transit system in Mississauga.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsMr. Massimo Pacetti (Liberal) asked Greg Thompson (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to veterans and attacks the prior Liberal government instead of addressing the Italian-community funding commitment.
The Liberals left a number of things uncompleted on their watch.