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Thursday, November 15, 2007 · sitting No. 17
Commons debates face covering at polls amid elections act overhaul
The House spent the largest share of its sitting on government orders amending the Canada Elections Act to require voters to show their faces. Bloc Québécois MP Pierre Paquette argued the change would uphold equality between men and women, while Liberal MP John Godfrey said the measure addressed a nonexistent problem after only four veiled women voted in recent Quebec byelections.
Question period featured repeated exchanges on the Mulroney-Schreiber affair. Liberal MP Ralph Goodale pressed the Prime Minister to widen the terms of reference for the inquiry led by Dr. David Johnston, and Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied that the existing mandate already permitted examination of any connected matters.
Further questions in the period addressed Afghan detainee transfers and residential school compensation payments. Bloc Québécois MP Claude Bachand called for an immediate halt to transfers, and Conservative Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier said an Afghan investigation was under way.
Decided that day
- Bill C-6 moved through second reading
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Who held the floor · 2007-11-15
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Afghanistan
Bloc Québécois MP Gilles Duceppe called Foreign Affairs Minister Maxime Bernier a jerk after the minister suggested the member for Saint-Jean seek a seat in the National Assembly.
Read the exchangeRoyal Canadian Mounted Police
NDP MP Libby Davies called for a full review of taser use following the death of Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver airport, and Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day said multiple investigations including a coroner's inquest were already under way.
Read the exchangeIncome Trusts
Liberal MP John McCallum presented a petition from 4,000 Canadians who lost retirement savings after the government imposed a 31.5 per cent tax on income trusts.
Read the exchangeManufacturing Sector
Bloc Québécois MP Paul Crête urged Finance Minister Jim Flaherty to direct the Bank of Canada to protect the manufacturing sector from the rising dollar, and Conservative MP Ted Menzies replied that the government would not interfere with the bank's independence.
Read the exchangeStatus of Women
Bloc Québécois MP Nicole Demers cited a World Economic Forum report showing Canada had slipped to 18th place on gender equality and pressed Status of Women Minister Josée Verner for proactive pay equity legislation.
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- deflectedAirbusRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies premise and attacks opposition motives rather than addressing the terms of reference.
These are rather pathetic attempts by the opposition to link them to this government.
- misdirectedAirbusRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to attacking the questioner's credibility on an unrelated tax records claim instead of the mandate limits.
I would not say the only person's credibility, but one of the people's credibility who is very much in question this week is the member for Wascana
- misdirectedAirbusRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Answer dismisses all claims as fabrications and pivots to attacking the Liberal Party's corruption record.
I am afraid the Liberal Party of Canada has the trademark on corruption.
- deflectedAirbusLucienne Robillard (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates the process without addressing whether the mandate covers the specific meetings or discussions.
That process will give us the answers we are looking for.
- deflectedAirbusLucienne Robillard (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats that Johnston can set terms without confirming if the listed actions fall inside the mandate.
Mr. Johnston can set the terms of reference for the inquiry and ask important questions for himself, for Canadians, and also for us.
- answeredAirbusMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states the decision belongs to the Minister of Justice and the government will not comment on the judicial process.
Clearly, the government will not comment on such a judicial process.
- partly answeredAirbusMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer acknowledges two public interests but does not address whether extradition should be postponed.
We do recognize, however, that there are two issues of public interest here
- answeredAirbusMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly clarifies that Johnston may report sooner than the 57-day maximum if possible.
Mr. Johnston is free to provide his report much more quickly, if possible.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Michel Guimond (Bloc) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question implies guilt without evidence; answer avoids direct response by deferring to Johnston and attacks the asker.
However, I am certain that Mr. Johnston will not propose an inquiry into Canadian federalism, desired by the Bloc Québécois.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer dismisses the question as fabrications and defers to Johnston without addressing the specific recusal query.
We now have a process and Mr. Johnston will carry out his mandate.
- partly answeredAirbusMr. Thomas Mulcair (NDP) asked Stephen Harper (Conservative). loaded question.Question assumes corruption and demands repayment; answer addresses the inquiry terms but ignores the repayment demand.
Professor Johnston will draft the terms of reference for the full public inquiry, and that is one matter on which he will obviously make recommendations.
- deflectedAirbusRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.Question challenges consistency on cover-up; answer shifts to process and public record without addressing the PCO briefing issue.
immediately upon receiving a signed affidavit by Mr. Schreiber of certain allegations, the Prime Minister and this government took action.
- misdirectedAirbusRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.Answer warns the asker about letters received instead of addressing the ministers' involvement or PCO briefing.
I understand he may have received some letters already about certain things he has said, and he should be careful.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer praises Johnston but dismisses concerns as ridiculous assertions without confirming scope on Terrien.
We fully expect that all the way along we will hear ridiculous and bizarre assertions from across the way.
- deflectedAirbusMr. Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.Question accuses of cover-up; answer claims credit for inquiry and notes disappointment without addressing Terrien's role.
in my opinion, it is clear that hon. members are disappointed because we are now proceeding with a public inquiry.
- answeredAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.Question cites Geneva Convention violation; answer directly states actions taken with Afghan counterpart on investigations.
I recently wrote to my counterpart in Afghanistan, the foreign minister, to formally ask that serious, formal, exhaustive investigations be launched into these allegations of abuse.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMr. Claude Bachand (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the prisoner transfer question entirely and launches a personal political attack on the asker.
If there is no future here in Ottawa, I suggest that my colleague from Saint-Jean do what his colleague from Saint-Lambert did and go talk to the Parti Québécois about becoming a PQ candidate.
- partly answeredManufacturing SectorMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). substantive question.The answer addresses the non-interference point but sidesteps the specific request to advise the governor on manufacturing impacts.
it would not be the habit of this government to interfere with the Bank of Canada.
- deflectedManufacturing SectorMr. Paul Crête (Bloc) asked Mr. Ted Menzies (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists general budget measures without addressing the call to implement the committee's specific fiscal recommendations.
We have reduced income tax rates for corporations.
- deflectedGovernment ContractsMr. Todd Russell (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.The answer avoids the lobbying contact question and instead criticizes the opposition for not understanding the inquiry process.
From the very first day when the Prime Minister announced the process of a full public inquiry and leading up to that, from that very first moment the Leader of the Opposition did not understand it, did not get it, did not even hear it.
- misdirectedGovernment ContractsMr. Todd Russell (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the request to table lobbying records and instead attacks Liberal credibility over the Gomery inquiry.
the credibility of the Liberals would be a little bit fortressed if while they are asking these questions, they would also help us in some other investigations that are going on, for instance, the $40 million that somebody over there or some of their friends are still hiding related to the Gomery inquiry.
- partly answeredAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the May agreement and access measures but does not address ordering an end to transfers or returning detainees.
Clearly, the measures that are taken now do ensure that we have greater access.
- partly answeredAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.The answer describes the agreement and interviews conducted but does not commit to ending transfers or directly addressing the Geneva Convention demand.
Unlike what the government before us did, with this agreement we have conducted 32 interviews with Taliban prisoners and we are making sure that this agreement is respected.
- partly answeredAfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims the agreement is working and mentions an investigation but does not admit failure to track prisoners or outline concrete new steps.
The agreement that we signed is working.
- deflectedAfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates government actions and transparency without addressing the why question or obligation under agreements.
we are doing our work. We did 32 interviews with Taliban prisoners.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends the agreement and notes an investigation but does not address when transfers will stop or leadership on torture.
we signed an agreement that allows us to improve upon the previous agreement signed by the previous government, an agreement that was not the best of all NATO countries.
- deflectedAfghanistanMr. David McGuinty (Liberal) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). loaded question.Answer quotes media praise for the agreement and restates process instead of addressing mounting cases or concern over torture.
The new deal transforms Canada into the standard-bearer for all foreign countries in the monitoring of transferred prisoners in Afghanistan
- answeredRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceMs. Bonnie Brown (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly addresses the taser use question by confirming multiple ongoing investigations and a requested review.
I have also asked for a review in terms of the use of tasers.
- answeredRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceMs. Bonnie Brown (Liberal) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Answer confirms prior request for taser review and lists all investigations under way, addressing the call for hearings.
before the Liberal call on this, I had asked for a review related to the use of tasers.
- partly answeredStatus of WomenMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.Answer addresses the ranking slip by noting other countries' actions but does not commit to any new tangible steps like pay equity legislation.
Canada has not regressed. It is simply that other countries have taken more proactive measures.
- misdirectedStatus of WomenMs. Nicole Demers (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the Bloc member personally and changes subject to past budget increase instead of addressing receptiveness to advice.
scream as she may, the Bloc Québécois member will never be able to get anything for the women of Canada.
- answeredAboriginal AffairsMs. Tina Keeper (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.Answer directly rebuts the pilfering claim by stating the funds were advanced payments already sent to seniors.
The $82 million that was in question in the newspaper article has already been spent as an advance payment to seniors, former residential school students.
- partly answeredRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceMs. Penny Priddy (NDP) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer mentions a review on tasers but does not detail directives or officers' status.
I have asked for a review related to the use of tasers.
- deflectedRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceMs. Penny Priddy (NDP) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Avoids addressing the request to remove RCMP by listing other investigations.
The policy of a police force investigating something that has happened internally is fairly common.
- misdirectedAboriginal AffairsLarry Bagnell (Liberal) asked Chuck Strahl (Conservative). loaded question.The answer explains the payments but does not address the demand for apology or returning money.
The full $1.9 billion will be sent to residential school students.
- partly answeredMaher ArarMr. Bill Casey (Independent) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.Mentions O'Connor report but not specific investigations into leaks.
all of the recommendations of the O'Connor report were put into place.
- answeredBusiness of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Provides detailed plans for the week and next.
Next, I am pleased to say that we will begin debate on our bills to make the Senate more democratic and accountable.
- partly answeredBusiness of the HouseMs. Libby Davies (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.States the supply period but does not assure committees will study estimates first.
It is our intention to proceed sometime in accordance with the Standing Orders with the last supply day in that period.
- deflectedCanada Elections ActMs. Catherine Bell (NDP) asked Mr. Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.Corrects record on NDP involvement instead of addressing bill flaws raised.
at no time did the NDP raise the issue of these riding addresses.
- answeredCanada Elections ActLarry Bagnell (Liberal) asked Mr. Gary Goodyear (Conservative). substantive question.Acknowledges cooperation and adds related points on voting access.
The member should know that special ballots, mail-in ballots, allow folks that are in another country to go to the Canadian embassy and vote there.
- deflectedCanada Elections ActMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question is a speech with no answerable query and the reply attacks tone while restating positions instead of addressing disenfranchisement concerns.
the gloom and doom from down the way is just silly, frankly.
- deflectedCanada Elections ActMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mr. Laurie Hawn (Conservative). rhetorical question.The statement raises no question and the reply simply contradicts without engaging the new Bill C-6 reference.
You didn't see this problem in Bill C-31.
- misdirectedCanada Elections ActMr. Dennis Bevington (NDP) asked Mrs. Betty Hinton (Conservative). substantive question.The questions seek explanation for rejecting a simple oath solution but the reply pivots to a sarcastic comparison and accuses the asker of making silly statements.
occasionally in this place, when we are debating any piece of legislation or private member's bill or whatever the case may be, oftentimes some very silly statements are made.