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Wednesday, June 6, 2007 · sitting No. 165
Budget bill advances to third reading as Atlantic accord sparks clashes
The House spent the largest share of the sitting on third reading of Bill C-52, the Budget Implementation Act, 2007. Parliamentary secretary Diane Ablonczy told the House the legislation would deliver tax relief and investments outlined in Advantage Canada. Liberal MP Michael Savage pressed Ablonczy on changes to the Atlantic accord and asked whether Nova Scotia would receive the full benefits promised in earlier agreements.
Question period opened with repeated exchanges on the government's climate-change plan. Liberal leader Stéphane Dion cited a Tyndall Centre study and charged that targets for the oil sands were weaker than industry plans. Minister Peter Van Loan replied that the government's approach would achieve a 20 per cent reduction by 2020 and matched commitments made with the European Union.
Decided that day
- Bill C-298 passed adding PFOS to Virtual Elimination list
- Fourth Report of Citizenship and Immigration Committee adopted
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Who held the floor · 2007-06-06
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Atlantic Accord
Conservative MP Bill Casey told the House the budget's consequential amendments altered a signed 12-year Atlantic accord and asked the government to honour the original contract. Finance minister Jim Flaherty replied that Nova Scotia had chosen a one-year option under the modified formula and would not be worse off.
Read the exchangeRoyal Canadian Mounted Police
Bloc Québécois MP Serge Ménard asked Public Safety minister Stockwell Day to order a public inquiry after access-to-information records showed officers who committed sexual assaults received only reprimands. Day said he had asked the commissioner to review the 114 cases cited.
Read the exchangeAfghanistan
Liberal MP Denis Coderre tabled a document showing the government held data on detainee transfers and asked why the figures had not been released. Defence minister Gordon O'Connor said the details were an operational security matter and would not be discussed in the House.
Read the exchangeD-Day
Conservative MP James Moore and Liberal MP Geoff Regan both marked the 63rd anniversary of the D-Day landings, paying tribute to the Canadian soldiers who advanced farthest into occupied France on June 6, 1944.
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- deflectedThe EnvironmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.Answer ignores the Tyndall Centre claim and pivots to unrelated European praise.
we are proud of our plan to help the environment and reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks Liberal record instead of addressing whether targets are weaker than industry plans.
I think that is exactly what we were on track for by 2020 if we stuck with the Liberal practice, which had already gotten us a 33% increase in emissions by the time the Liberals left government.
- misdirectedThe EnvironmentStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to attacking past Liberals via Sheila Copps quote rather than responding to the studies cited.
It was actually by the former Liberal environment minister Sheila Copps.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer defends the 20% target and international approach but does not address the Kyoto fight claim directly.
we have a plan in place that results in actual, real reductions in greenhouse gas emissions, 20% by 2020.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer accuses Liberals of confusion and cites their past positions instead of addressing oil sands targets.
I think it is the Liberal Party.
- partly answeredThe EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.Answer states the 60-70% target and EU alignment but avoids the credibility question on Kyoto signature.
Canada is committed to reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 60% to 70% with respect to 2006 levels.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer claims credibility from action but does not address the 1990 vs 2006 baseline or Fillon/Merkel criticism.
we have plenty of credibility, because we are taking action now, after years of inaction.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMrs. Claude DeBellefeuille (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). loaded question.Answer repeats 20% by 2020 claim without engaging the 80-megatonne gap or fabricated-statement charge.
I want to assure the member that Canada is committed to a major reduction, a 20% absolute reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2020.
- deflectedThe EnvironmentMr. Christian Ouellet (Bloc) asked Mr. Mark Warawa (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question on Quebec special status and instead attacks the prior Liberal record.
This is what the media said about the Liberal leader: ...the Leader of the Opposition's "record as environment minister was abysmally bad, earning him a reputation as the Dr. Doolittle of climate change".
- misdirectedThe BudgetDominic LeBlanc (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer attacks the NDP voting record instead of addressing the Atlantic accord issue raised.
- deflectedThe BudgetMs. Alexa McDonough (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer lists funding figures but does not address whether the Atlantic accord promise was broken.
For Nova Scotia, under the fiscal balance package, more than $2.4 billion and $1.3 billion for equalization; $130 million for offshore accord offsets;
- misdirectedThe BudgetRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer dismisses the question by attacking the Liberal leader's views on fiscal imbalance rather than addressing the accord or caucus issue.
that question comes from a member of a party, the leader of which says that fiscal imbalance is a myth.
- deflectedThe BudgetRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). rhetorical question.The answer continues to restate the fiscal imbalance point without engaging the broken-promise accusation.
I know the member for Wascana wishes that his leader had not said that but he did say that.
- misdirectedThe BudgetRobert Thibault (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer labels the question a personal attack and pivots to equalization instead of responding to the loyalty or resignation demand.
personal attacks like that always say more about the person saying them than about the person receiving them.
- partly answeredThe BudgetRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the province's options and resulting transfers but does not address the broken-promise claim directly.
the Province of Nova Scotia has the option of electing the new system, the modified O'Brien system, this year or continuing with the Atlantic accords.
- partly answeredAtlantic AccordMr. Todd Russell (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges respect for Crosbie and restates the accord choice but does not address the spinelessness or caucus loyalty attack.
those accord agreements are the status quo agreements which they can choose to continue with or they can go with the modified O'Brien formula.
- deflectedAtlantic AccordMr. Todd Russell (Liberal) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to past Tory achievements rather than addressing the current vote or Atlantic accord betrayal.
let me remind the hon. member and the House that it was a Tory government, a Conservative government, that gave us the original Atlantic accord.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Meili Faille (Bloc) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses to address the specific case and instead cites general processes without committing to action.
we will not comment on the specific case or on the specific facts.
- deflectedCitizenship and ImmigrationMs. Meili Faille (Bloc) asked Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Conservative). substantive question.The answer again refuses specifics and points only to existing processes without addressing the humanitarian request.
as much as the member would like me to comment on the specifics of the particular case, I have indicated that I will not, and I shall not.
- partly answeredRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer provides numbers on cases and promises review but does not address the call for a public inquiry.
It is, however, false to say that every case involved sexual misconduct.
- deflectedRoyal Canadian Mounted PoliceMr. Serge Ménard (Bloc) asked Stockwell Day (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the bilingualism question and shifts to unrelated RCMP procedural changes.
Also, changes will be made to the procedure for investigating instances where officers may have done something inappropriate.
- deflectedThe BudgetMr. Gary Merasty (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer highlights budget numbers instead of addressing the accusation that Saskatchewan MPs failed to stand up for the province.
the Conservative members for Saskatchewan have certainly stood up for Saskatchewan, for a budget that delivers $878 million in new money for the province of Saskatchewan.
- deflectedThe BudgetMr. Gary Merasty (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer lists funding figures and attacks the prior Liberal record rather than responding to the doughnut or trust accusation.
here is what the member for Wascana did not do for Saskatchewan that this Conservative government has done: $226 million more under equalization;
- deflectedThe BudgetMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer defends the budget and attacks Liberals instead of addressing the Prime Minister's broken promises or refusal to meet premiers.
Once again, over 13 years the Liberals did not get the job done.
- deflectedThe BudgetMarlene Jennings (Liberal) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). loaded question.The answer promotes budget benefits instead of addressing the call for a premiers' meeting on constitutional issues.
Because we have addressed the fiscal imbalance, which the Liberal Party does not believe exists, $2.1 billion will go to the provinces and territories this fiscal year for health care, education, infrastructure, skills training and the environment.
- deflectedThe BudgetMr. Peter Stoffer (NDP) asked Loyola Hearn (Conservative). loaded question.The answer mocks the question and shifts to defending the government's approach without addressing truth-telling claims.
We are not sitting on our hands or running around the country complaining like the hon. member or like the Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador.
- partly answeredAtlantic AccordMr. Bill Casey (Independent) asked Jim Flaherty (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains flexibility and election options but does not explicitly confirm honoring the accord without amendments.
Budget 2007 provides Nova Scotia flexibility and more money, as well as respecting the Atlantic accords and giving the province of Nova Scotia the opportunity to make an election.
- deflectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). loaded question.The answer cites operational security without addressing the cover-up allegation or access to information disagreement.
as I have said a number of times in the House, the details with respect to detainees is an operational security matter, and we will not discuss this matter in the House.
- deflectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Gordon O'Connor (Conservative). loaded question.The answer repeats that it is a military matter without providing any detainee numbers or status details requested.
The military have declared this as operational security, and we will respect it.
- misdirectedAfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the member's consistency instead of explaining why operational security prevents disclosure of detainee numbers.
again, as is so often the case with the hon. member, it is untrue.
- misdirectedAfghanistanUjjal Dosanjh (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.The answer criticizes the member's stance on the US rather than addressing why Canada withholds numbers unlike the Pentagon.
once again, it is convenience with the truth by the member opposite; when he finds it convenient, he wraps his arms around the American example.
- partly answeredInternational CooperationMs. Caroline St-Hilaire (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer confirms the 8% commitment and extra funds but does not address whether that meets the $25 billion G-8 pledge.
in our most recent budget, we reiterated our 8% commitment to international aid, and we also announced $300 million in additional funds.
- misdirectedInternational CooperationMs. Caroline St-Hilaire (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.The answer ignores the 0.7% target and plan request, instead attacking the Bloc Québécois after mentioning an unrelated doubling commitment.
our government has set targets it can meet, which is something the Bloc Québécois will never be able to do.