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Thursday, May 17, 2007 · sitting No. 156
Commons examines rising Afghanistan mission costs in supply debate
The House devoted most of the sitting to committee of the whole on the business of supply. Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor said incremental costs of the Afghanistan mission to date stand at $2.6 billion and projected costs to the end of February 2009 stand at $4.3 billion.
In question period the opposition pressed the government on the cancellation of the court challenges program and its effects on linguistic minorities. Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion cited testimony from Gisèle Lalonde and asked the Prime Minister to reinstate the program while Heritage Minister Josée Verner defended new funding for official languages.
Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe challenged the government over Bill C-56 and its impact on Quebec's representation in the House, citing a unanimous National Assembly motion calling for withdrawal of the bill.
Decided that day
- C-47 advanced at second reading
- Bills C-444, C-445 and C-446 introduced
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Who held the floor · 2007-05-17
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Criminal Code
Justice Minister Rob Nicholson opened third reading debate on Bill C-10, which sets minimum penalties for firearms offences, saying the measures would give offenders reason to consider consequences before acting.
Read the exchangeOfficial Languages
Liberal MP Michael Ignatieff asked why the government had appointed a unilingual chair to the national commission of a bilingual region and failed to name a bilingual ombudsman for crime victims.
Read the exchangeDemocratic Reform
Industry Minister Maxime Bernier told the House that Bill C-56 includes a constitutional guarantee that Quebec will never have fewer than 75 seats regardless of population changes.
Read the exchangeSummer Career Placement Program
Human Resources Minister Monte Solberg said every cent previously allocated to the not-for-profit sector for summer jobs had been preserved this year and that his department was reviewing cases where applications were rejected.
Read the exchangeCourt Challenges Program
Heritage Minister Josée Verner told the House the government had added $30 million to promote linguistic duality after the Leader of the Opposition questioned funding levels for official languages communities.
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- deflectedCourt Challenges ProgramStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer refuses to address reinstatement due to court proceedings and pivots to unrelated funding while attacking the opposition.
The Leader of the Opposition and his party voted against that additional $30 million.
- deflectedCourt Challenges ProgramStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer disputes figures but does not address restoring the claimed $80 million cut to official languages funding.
The new money is the $642 million.
- deflectedCourt Challenges ProgramStéphane Dion (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer ignores the question on minority access to the Charter and instead highlights unrelated new spending.
These are concrete actions to promote the linguistic duality of Canada.
- misdirectedOfficial LanguagesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's personal background and redefines 'real Canadian' instead of addressing official languages issues.
I could understand the member for Etobicoke—Lakeshore , the deputy leader of the Liberal Party, having trouble understanding what a real Canadian is since he spent 30 years outside of Canada, in the United States recently.
- partly answeredOfficial LanguagesMr. Michael Ignatieff (Liberal) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The answer notes the motion but does not commit to adopting the commissioner's recommendations.
we took good note of the motion passed yesterday at the National Assembly
- deflectedDemocratic ReformMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.The answer disputes the premise with a quote but does not explain the reason for any reduction in Quebec's weight.
As a founding nation, Quebec has a constitutional guarantee: it will never have fewer than 75 members in the House of Commons in Ottawa, even if its population were to decrease.
- misdirectedDemocratic ReformMr. Gilles Duceppe (Bloc) asked Lawrence Cannon (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's experience and claims Quebec's interests are served without addressing withdrawal of the bill.
I do not think he has a great deal of experience in the National Assembly.
- deflectedDemocratic ReformMrs. Vivian Barbot (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer repeats guarantees for Quebec but does not address withdrawing the bill as requested by the National Assembly.
as I have already said, the bill includes guarantees for Quebec.
- deflectedDemocratic ReformMrs. Vivian Barbot (Bloc) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). rhetorical question.The question challenges members to rise and speak, which is rhetorical, and the answer sidesteps by noting members rose then pivots to constitutional principles.
the Conservative members from Quebec have risen.
- misdirectedIndustryJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks about protecting industries from takeovers, but the answer attacks opposition delay tactics on unrelated justice bills.
Let me talk about delay and obstruction.
- partly answeredIndustryJack Layton (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The question seeks conditions on the Alcoa takeover, and the answer addresses the policy framework and economic context without committing to action.
- partly answeredSummer Career Placement ProgramJohn Godfrey (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks why funding was rejected for a specific camp, and the answer notes equal funding overall while promising to investigate specific cases.
I am asking my department to get to the bottom of it.
- misdirectedSummer Career Placement ProgramMr. Paul Zed (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The question attacks the denial of funding with loaded language, and the answer counters by listing funded groups and criticizing the prior Liberal record.
I simply have to point out that the Liberals' record is that in the past they cut summer career programming for students many times.
- deflectedSummer Career Placement ProgramHedy Fry (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The question accuses the government of cuts and incompetence, and the answer deflects by correcting the funding amount and attacking the questioner's record.
It is that member who should apologize for misleading the House with respect to the amount of funding that is going to the not for profit sector.
- answeredSummer Career Placement ProgramMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks what the government hopes to accomplish by rejecting applications, and the answer directly explains that groups must apply and meet criteria each year.
Groups do not automatically receive funding.
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMr. Richard Nadeau (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). substantive question.The question asks if the court challenges program will be reinstated, and the answer pivots to criticizing the Bloc and listing other funding instead.
concrete action will come from this side of the House and certainly not from the benches of the Bloc Québécois
- deflectedOfficial LanguagesMr. Richard Nadeau (Bloc) asked Josée Verner (Conservative). loaded question.Answer attacks the Bloc Québécois instead of addressing the court challenges program.
This is a great deal more than the Bloc Québécois can do for communities outside Quebec.
- partly answeredAboriginal AffairsMr. Marc Lemay (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer gives overall spending totals but does not address the specific $938 million shortfall.
the budget this year for the Government of Canada includes $10.2 billion in expenditures for aboriginal programs and services.
- deflectedAboriginal AffairsMr. Marc Lemay (Bloc) asked Jim Prentice (Conservative). substantive question.Answer restates overall spending without engaging the specific shortfall or mismanagement claim.
This year, the budget includes $10 billion for federal aboriginal programs.
- misdirectedSummer Career Placement ProgramMs. Raymonde Folco (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the questioner's past record rather than addressing the program cuts.
When she was answering questions on this very issue when she was on this side of the House, she suggested that students should just stay in school as a way of dealing with the cutbacks the Liberals brought in.
- partly answeredSummer Career Placement ProgramMs. Bonnie Brown (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.Answer explains program goals and funding level but does not address the specific denial in Oakville.
We are continuing to make sure that those in the not for profit sector are provided with $77.3 million in funding, which is exactly what that sector received last year.
- misdirectedSummer Career Placement ProgramMs. Ruby Dhalla (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists approvals in the riding instead of addressing the denied organizations.
in her riding, St. John Ambulance was approved.
- misdirectedSummer Career Placement ProgramGerry Byrne (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.Answer lists funded groups and attacks the questioner's past government instead of addressing the college funding loss.
- deflectedAfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). loaded question.Answer shifts to filibuster defense and crime bills rather than addressing censored reports.
We do not delay justice bills for 270 days or 175 days because we actually do not want to get tough on crime.
- misdirectedAfghanistanMs. Dawn Black (NDP) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer denies claims and attacks the NDP's knowledge instead of addressing report contents.
I can understand the member opposite from the NDP not knowing that but certainly members on the other side of the House did the same thing since 2002 when the mission began.
- misdirectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer pivots to attacking the questioner over sponsorship scandal rather than addressing the cover-up claim.
the member opposite would know a lot about cover-ups, of course, with his involvement previously in keeping information private around the sponsorship scandal.
- deflectedAfghanistanDenis Coderre (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). loaded question.Answer restates that the redaction process has not changed without addressing the cover-up accusation.
I will say it again that the process with respect to redaction and with respect to internal reports has not changed.
- deflectedForeign AffairsKen Dryden (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer condemns Ahmadinejad but shifts to criticizing opposition nitpicking instead of explaining court decision.
- misdirectedForeign AffairsKen Dryden (Liberal) asked Peter MacKay (Conservative). substantive question.Answer attacks the questioner as bombastic and references past Liberal failures rather than answering about the motion.
what political posturing, what bombastic baloney from the member opposite.
- partly answeredCanada Summer Jobs ProgramMs. France Bonsant (Bloc) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.Answer affirms the groups' work and explains program goals but does not directly confirm if they deserve funding.
These groups do tremendous work, and no one questions that.
- deflectedTelecommunicationsMr. Jean-Yves Roy (Bloc) asked Maxime Bernier (Conservative). substantive question.Answer promotes government policy and attacks Bloc record instead of addressing rural rate increases.
unlike the Bloc Québécois, which has been sitting on the opposition benches for 13 years now and has done absolutely nothing for Quebec consumers.
- answeredMinisterial ExpensesMs. Tina Keeper (Liberal) asked Jason Kenney (Conservative). substantive question.Answer directly states that expenses have been submitted and will be posted per rules.
all of them have been submitted and will be posted by departmental officials in full accordance with the rules.
- deflectedSummer Career Placement ProgramMs. Denise Savoie (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The answer restates maintained funding levels without addressing the requested job loss ratio.
We have maintained every cent of funding for the not for profit sector; $77.3 million.
- deflectedSummer Career Placement ProgramMs. Denise Savoie (NDP) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). loaded question.The answer pivots to unemployment rates and accuses misleading instead of quantifying students without work.
It does not flatter her when she misleads the House that way.
- partly answeredPoints of OrderRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Monte Solberg (Conservative). substantive question.The answer explains the document is notes and will be public but declines to table it immediately.
I do not think it is the usual practice to share our notes for question period.
- deflectedBusiness of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the questions but offers no details on the business agenda.
I would be happy to make an effort to answer all those questions.
- answeredBusiness of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer directly outlines the next day's business and the week's schedule.
- misdirectedBusiness of the HouseRalph Goodale (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer attacks the opposition for filibustering instead of addressing the Thursday question fairness point.
Had that not been held up in committee so long, the list would not have taken so long to read?
- deflectedBusiness of the HouseMr. Derek Lee (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer defends the length of the response by reinterpreting the question rather than shortening future answers.
He asked, in addition to next week, what other aspects of the government's agenda did we wish to see completed before we finished the session for the summer.
- deflectedPoints of OrderMr. Marcel Proulx (Liberal) asked Peter Van Loan (Conservative). substantive question.The answer claims not to have heard the comment and redirects to general attacks on integrity from the opposition.
I know where they come from mostly.
- deflectedPrivilegeJim Karygiannis (Liberal) asked Diane Finley (Conservative). substantive question.The answer challenges the validity of the privilege claim on procedural grounds without addressing the letter's content.
I submit that the member's question of privilege is not valid for two reasons.
- misdirectedPrivilegeAndrew Telegdi (Liberal) asked Mr. Dave Batters (Conservative). substantive question.The answer shifts focus to criticizing the opposition's conduct at committee rather than addressing the privilege claim.
What I found at that committee that day was absolutely shocking.