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Friday, December 13, 2024 · sitting No. 389

Liberals pressed on deficit blowout and Canada Post strike in Commons

Oral questions on finance consumed the largest share of the sitting. Conservative MP Michael Barrett said the outgoing finance minister's $40-billion deficit guardrail had been breached by the prime minister's spending and asked whether she would be replaced by Mark Carney. Liberal MP Peter Fragiskatos replied that the government had the lowest debt and deficit in the G7 and accused the Conservatives of voting against tax relief measures.

The government also faced questions on the Canada Post strike after Labour Minister Steven MacKinnon invoked section 107 of the Canada Labour Code to order workers back. NDP MP Lisa Marie Barron said the move assaulted workers' rights while Conservative MP Rick Perkins asked what price had been paid to keep the NDP supporting the government.

Routine proceedings included the presentation of several committee reports and the tabling of a treaty on civil aviation safety.

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2024-12-13

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 46%, opposition 54% of the words spokenOrders of the DayQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedings▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:00Last speech 13:15Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 10 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
26Privilege points pile up, bills stallThe House devoted most of its time to procedural topics and raised 33 points of order or privilege while Question Period produced almost no direct answers. Only one bill was introduced and no votes were held.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Housing

NDP MP Peter Julian cited the Parliamentary Budget Officer to say more than two million Canadians lack adequate housing and asked when the government would address corporate greed in rents. Liberal MP Peter Fragiskatos said the government had reversed previous cuts and lifted 87,000 people off the street through its programs.

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Innovation, Science and Industry

Bloc Québécois MP Xavier Barsalou-Duval said the federal government must immediately confirm subsidies under the zero-emission transit fund to help Lion Electric reach a creditor agreement by December 16. Liberal MP Anthony Housefather said the government would continue working with the province and investors to support the electric-bus industry.

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Passports

Bloc Québécois MP Sébastien Lemire said residents of Abitibi-Témiscamingue must drive six hours for expedited passport service and asked when equipment delivered to Rouyn-Noranda 15 months ago would be used. Liberal MP Stéphane Lauzon said 98 per cent of Canadians have access within 10 business days and urged advance planning.

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Privilege

Conservative MP Scott Reid asked whether civil liberties and the ability to be with loved ones at death counted as metrics of pandemic performance. Bloc Québécois MP Gabriel Ste-Marie asked whether the government respected workers' rights after invoking the Canada Labour Code against Canada Post employees.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    FinanceMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the question about the finance minister and deficit entirely.the Conservatives are trying to distract from their voting record.
  2. deflected
    FinanceMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to past Conservative governments instead of addressing the deficit question.Stephen Harper had the worst rate of economic growth going back to R.B. Bennett in the 1930s.
  3. deflected
    FinanceMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to listing government programs and Conservative positions rather than the deficit.We have a school food program that is supporting no fewer than 400,000 kids in four different provinces.
  4. deflected
    FinanceMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mr. Francis Drouin (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes the GST holiday and attacks Conservatives instead of discussing the deficit.Tomorrow morning, Canadians and Quebeckers will have a GST holiday.
  5. deflected
    FinanceMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mr. Francis Drouin (Liberal). loaded question.The answer criticizes the Conservative economic statement and repeats the GST point without addressing the deficit.Their plan is to fix the budget, and then it is a big blank page.
  6. misdirected
    International TradeMrs. Marilène Gill (Bloc) asked Mr. Francis Drouin (Liberal). substantive question.The answer agrees superficially but redirects blame to Conservative MPs instead of addressing Senate actions.It is shameful what Conservative members did in the House.
  7. misdirected
    International TradeMrs. Marilène Gill (Bloc) asked Mr. Francis Drouin (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes the Prime Minister's calls but attacks the Conservative leader on supply management.Almost 50% of Conservatives voted against supply management.
  8. partly answered
    HousingMr. Peter Julian (NDP) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer defends government housing efforts but does not address taking on corporate greed.87,000 people have been lifted off the street and almost 150,000 people who would be homeless are not homeless because of our strategy on that.
  9. deflected
    HousingMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Dan Vandal (Liberal). loaded question.The answer discusses general investments without addressing the specific family or why help is refused.we have been working since 2015 on creating partnerships with provinces, territories and indigenous leaders to get more houses built all over the north.
  10. misdirected
    FinanceMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner's rhymes and pivots to unrelated achievements instead of addressing the deficit question.while that member practises on things that rhyme with F-words, our minister actually renegotiated NAFTA with Trump.
  11. misdirected
    FinanceMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). loaded question.The answer accuses Conservatives of insults and ends by questioning their stance on a woman in the role rather than answering on the deficit.it is pretty clear that when the Conservatives have no real argument or debate, they just insult people.
  12. misdirected
    FinanceMr. Philip Lawrence (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to praising IMF ratings and attacking Conservative housing cuts instead of confirming the deficit figure.What do we see on the Conservative side? It is a plan to make cuts, including a plan to cut $10 million for housing in Peterborough, the member's community.
  13. misdirected
    FinanceMr. Philip Lawrence (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to praising a local mayor and housing investments while ignoring the deficit question entirely.A few weeks ago, I spoke with Peterborough's Mayor Jeff Leal, who is a good man.
  14. deflected
    FinanceMr. Jamie Schmale (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends the finance minister's record on child benefits and attacks Conservatives on families rather than addressing the guardrail or deficit.What has that done for this country's economy? Among other things, 110,000 women have been able to re-enter the workforce because child care has now moved to an affordable level.
  15. deflected
    FinanceMr. Jamie Schmale (Conservative) asked Mr. Kevin Lamoureux (Liberal). loaded question.The answer celebrates GST tax breaks and calls Conservatives the grinch without confirming or denying the deficit amount.Last night, the Senate of Canada passed the legislation that is going to give a GST tax break starting tomorrow for all Canadians in all regions of the country.
  16. partly answered
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Xavier Barsalou-Duval (Bloc) asked Mr. Anthony Housefather (Liberal). substantive question.The answer commits to working with partners on Lion Electric but offers no specific action on the subsidy announcement requested.we will continue to work with the province. We will continue to work with investors.
  17. partly answered
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Xavier Barsalou-Duval (Bloc) asked Mr. Anthony Housefather (Liberal). substantive question.Addresses support for electric buses and jobs but does not confirm immediate full subsidies for Lion Electric clients.We will continue to do this work. We want to save these jobs.
  18. deflected
    FinanceMr. Shuvaloy Majumdar (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). substantive question.Ignores the free vote question and instead attacks Conservative record and proposed cuts.They talk about the idea of fixing the budget. For them that means cutting, and they would cut dental care, pharma care, support for families across the board and pensions.
  19. deflected
    FinanceMr. Shuvaloy Majumdar (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). loaded question.Avoids the carbon tax election question and pivots to insults and government achievements while questioning the opposition.While the Conservatives want to know about a free vote, I am wondering whether they will have a free question.
  20. misdirected
    FinanceMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Mrs. Élisabeth Brière (Liberal). substantive question.Ignores the deficit limit question entirely and shifts to praising the Canada child benefit and attacking Conservatives.When I meet with them, they always remind me of how important the Canada child benefit is for the families they serve.
  21. misdirected
    FinanceMr. Jacques Gourde (Conservative) asked Mr. Stéphane Lauzon (Liberal). loaded question.Ignores the question about the finance minister and Mark Carney and instead thanks volunteers and criticizes the opposition on GST relief.I also thank the Deputy Prime Minister for making this important gesture and giving us a GST holiday, a measure the Conservatives voted against.
  22. answered
    LabourMs. Lisa Marie Barron (NDP) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). substantive question.Directly addresses the refusal to protect postal workers by explaining the proposed arbitration process to ensure a fair deal and sustainability.That is why the government has proposed, and I have proposed, a way forward where we can avoid the postal workers' being on picket lines for an untold and unknown amount of time, take a pause and have an independent, respected arbitrator look at the situation
  23. partly answered
    HousingMr. Gord Johns (NDP) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). substantive question.Addresses non-market housing progress with numbers but does not commit to rapidly building more or stopping alleged caving to investors.Eighty-seven thousand people who were on the street are now living in non-market housing. Close to 150,000 people who were going to be homeless have been housed as a result of the investments the current government has made.
  24. deflected
    FinanceMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). loaded question.Ignores the question about pressuring the finance minister and instead repeats fiscal claims while attacking Conservative cuts.What would the Conservatives do? They would make cuts. In fact the member, with all due respect to her, ought to listen to what the mayor of Kelowna recently said.
  25. misdirected
    FinanceMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked Marci Ien (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the opposition on misogyny instead of addressing the deficit or finance minister question.We will not take any lessons from the party across the aisle.
  26. misdirected
    FinanceMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). loaded question.Answer defends the minister and attacks Conservative caucus dynamics rather than addressing the deficit promise.
  27. deflected
    FinanceMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Marci Ien (Liberal). loaded question.Answer lists government policies for women and criticizes Conservatives but does not address the deficit or hypocrisy claim.There are such policies as $10-a-day child care, which has thousands of women who have gone back to the workforce because they can now do so, and the national action plan to end gender-based violence
  28. partly answered
    PassportsMr. Sébastien Lemire (Bloc) asked Mr. Stéphane Lauzon (Liberal). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the request and states next steps for assessing expanded services without committing to immediate action.As early as next Tuesday, we will be meeting with the minister to discuss this issue.
  29. deflected
    PassportsMr. Sébastien Lemire (Bloc) asked Mr. Stéphane Lauzon (Liberal). substantive question.Answer reiterates national statistics and urges advance planning instead of addressing the specific regional service request.Now, I would still urge everyone to plan ahead.
  30. misdirected
    FinanceMr. Martin Shields (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to dental care program and attacks Conservative intentions rather than addressing the deficit question.Are the Conservatives saying that, as part of this big, bold idea, more of a slogan, in fact, to fix the budget, they would get rid of dental care?
  31. deflected
    FinanceMr. Martin Shields (Conservative) asked Mr. Maninder Sidhu (Liberal). loaded question.Answer promotes GST tax break instead of addressing the deficit or finance minister question.This is thanks to the tax break on GST that our Liberal government brought forward.
  32. misdirected
    FinanceMr. Eric Melillo (Conservative) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids confirming any deficit figure and instead questions what Conservatives would cut.Can they offer one thing? Where are they going to start cutting?
  33. misdirected
    Leader of the Liberal Party of CanadaMr. Todd Doherty (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the free vote request entirely and instead attacks Conservative health policy cuts.What they would do with these cuts is drive illness, which will drive cost and is just plain dumb.
  34. deflected
    FinanceMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). substantive question.The response explains the Air Canada share sale but pivots to criticizing Conservative cuts instead of stating the deficit figure.What would the Conservatives cut? What would they cut to ensure that the budget is, as they say, fixed?
  35. partly answered
    LabourMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). loaded question.The answer describes the labour intervention but avoids confirming an order to return to work or any NDP deal.we acted decisively today to offer a creative solution to the labour dispute between Canada Post and its workers.
  36. deflected
    TaxationMs. Leila Dance (NDP) asked Filomena Tassi (Liberal). substantive question.The response promotes the temporary GST break and its benefits but does not address making the cut permanent.Our government is delivering Canadians a tax break on GST starting tomorrow, December 14, and this is really going to benefit retailers and consumers.
  37. partly answered
    LabourMr. Kevin Vuong (Independent) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). loaded question.The answer outlines the minister's labour code actions but sidesteps the NDP support and political accusations.Today, I acted decisively to use one of the powers granted to the Minister of Labour by Parliament, under the Canada Labour Code, to provide a reasonable solution to workers and a creative way out of this very fundamental impasse that we see at the bargaining table.