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Thursday, November 28, 2024 · sitting No. 378

Commons debates GST holiday bill amid clashes over borders and economy

The House spent the largest share of its sitting on Government Business No. 43, which concerns proceedings on Bill C-78 to provide a temporary GST and HST exemption on groceries, children's clothing, diapers and restaurant meals. Liberal MP Karina Gould moved that debate be not further adjourned, and members from several parties debated the measure's scope and timing.

In Question Period, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre pressed the government on border control and immigration numbers, while Liberal ministers Jean-Yves Duclos and Marc Miller defended the safe third country agreement and removal processes. Separate exchanges saw Conservative MPs criticize the carbon tax and housing costs, with Liberal MPs Soraya Martinez Ferrada and Sean Fraser highlighting new rebates and provincial housing agreements.

Decided that day

  • 2nd reading of Bill C-78 passed
  • Government Business No. 43 passed
  • Motion for closure passed
  • Several motions to adjourn or proceed passed

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Who held the floor · 2024-11-28

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 43%, opposition 57% of the words spokenOrders of the DayGovernment businessGovernment businessGovernment business▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:0019:0020:00Last speech 22:05Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 12 h 0 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
58Bill Moves Forward Through Procedural FogThe House devoted most of its time to advancing Bill C-78 through second reading, which passed along with several related procedural motions. Yet sixty points of order or privilege and mostly deflected answers in Question Period kept the tone argumentative.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Privilege

Conservative MP Frank Caputo accused Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux of minimizing an allegation of groping by the Prime Minister after Lamoureux suggested a complaint might relate to a bad date; Lamoureux rose on a point of order to clarify he had referred to the opposition leader.

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Government Business No. 43—Proceedings on Bill C‑78

Conservative MP John Brassard asked for tape to repair the apparent rupture of the NDP-Liberal coalition agreement after NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh withdrew support on some measures.

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Border Security

Bloc Québécois MP Alain Therrien said the government had no plan for border resources until the Prime Minister met premiers the previous evening and announced increases that the Bloc had sought for weeks.

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The Economy

NDP MP Laurel Collins said the proposed $250 working Canadians rebate excludes seniors, persons with disabilities and those unable to work, and asked whether the Liberals would fix the measure.

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International Trade

Conservative MP Ryan Williams said Canada has lost 90,000 softwood lumber jobs in nine years and asked why no deal has been reached with the United States.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.Answer discusses US relationship and past agreement without addressing the requested plan for border order or tariffs.just 18 months ago, we signed a new safe third country agreement that the United States has been very happy with ever since
  2. misdirected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to attacking the opposition leader's security clearance instead of addressing confidence in the Prime Minister on border issues.One thing that is within his control is asking for his security clearance to protect himself from his own blatant incompetence.
  3. misdirected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Marc Miller (Liberal). loaded question.Answer explains temporary residents then pivots to accusing the opposition of pandering rather than outlining a plan.What the member opposite, the Leader of the Opposition , is doing, with the member for Edmonton Mill Woods , is going around to these people, pandering to them
  4. misdirected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Marc Miller (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks the questioner on pandering and security clearance instead of providing a plan to address border issues.He needs to grow a pair, get the briefing—
  5. misdirected
    Leader of the Liberal Party of CanadaPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the claims of lost control and instead promotes GST cuts while attacking the opposition.What have we heard from the Leader of the Opposition ? He is opposed to tax cuts.
  6. deflected
    Border SecurityMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.Answer restates general cooperation with the US and premiers without explaining the delay in increasing border resources.The Prime Minister had an excellent meeting yesterday with Canada's premiers, and we are going to continue to work together to deal with the issues raised during that conversation.
  7. deflected
    Border SecurityMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). substantive question.Answer emphasizes shared interests and conversations but provides no details on timing, method or scale of border resource increases.I have had conversations with Premier Legault, and just this morning, I spoke with Minister Biron
  8. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). substantive question.Answer shifts focus to a GST tax break and attacks the opposition instead of addressing fixes for the $250 cheques.all we hear from the other side of the House is a party of grinches who refuse to change
  9. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Laurel Collins (NDP) asked Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends eligibility rules instead of addressing whether the rebate will be fixed.The $250 cheque that we want to send out is a cheque that we want to send to workers.
  10. deflected
    The EconomyMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer cites business councils and cuts off without addressing the call for a carbon tax election.Small business owners in my community and across the country will benefit as a result of the tax cut.
  11. misdirected
    The EconomyMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Mr. Peter Fragiskatos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the opposition leader's consistency rather than addressing the free vote request.Will the real Pierre Poilievre stand up in the House of Commons?
  12. misdirected
    TaxationMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer accuses the opposition of threatening MPs instead of addressing the GST holiday or election call.I know that the Leader of the Opposition knows a thing or two about threatening his own MPs, because if they do not speak in three-word slogans, we never hear from them again.
  13. deflected
    TaxationMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer explains GST removal on items but ignores the carbon tax hike and threats mentioned.the GST that we are proposing to remove is going to be removed on essential items like groceries, children's clothing, diapers and car seats.
  14. deflected
    TaxationMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer promotes the tax holiday and attacks the Conservatives' agenda without addressing the election demand.I do not understand why my colleague on the other side of the House does not want to support Canadians.
  15. misdirected
    HousingMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer declares the question unacceptable and pivots to criticizing the Conservative position on housing.The question is not acceptable and neither is the position.
  16. deflected
    SeniorsMs. Andréanne Larouche (Bloc) asked Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes the GST holiday and attacks the Bloc instead of addressing the royal recommendation for Bill C-319.What I do not understand is why the Bloc Québécois does not want to support a measure that will directly help not only all Quebeckers, but also seniors during this period.
  17. misdirected
    SeniorsMs. Andréanne Larouche (Bloc) asked Mr. Stéphane Lauzon (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc's voting record rather than addressing the call to increase OAS.The Bloc Québécois has consistently voted against seniors.
  18. misdirected
    SeniorsMs. Andréanne Larouche (Bloc) asked Mr. Stéphane Lauzon (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the Bloc's consistency instead of explaining the choice against increasing OAS.They cannot say one thing to one audience and something else to another.
  19. deflected
    TaxationMr. Brad Vis (Conservative) asked Rechie Valdez (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes the tax break's benefits without addressing the reprogramming costs or calling an election.Our tax break is not just good for small businesses; it is good for their customers.
  20. deflected
    International TradeMr. Ryan Williams (Conservative) asked Mr. Maninder Sidhu (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights past trade actions but does not provide a plan for a softwood lumber deal.We have a proven track record when it comes to negotiating.
  21. deflected
    International TradeMr. Ryan Williams (Conservative) asked Mr. Maninder Sidhu (Liberal). loaded question.The answer cites trade volumes but avoids addressing the lack of a softwood lumber plan or the proposed Canada-first measures.We had $1.3 trillion of trade last year with the U.S., which is a record since we renegotiated NAFTA in 2018.
  22. partly answered
    Indigenous AffairsMs. Lori Idlout (NDP) asked Mr. Anthony Housefather (Liberal). substantive question.The answer notes funding increases but does not address the backlog or non-compliance with tribunal orders.Since 2016, Indigenous Services Canada has funded approximately 7.8 million products, services and supports for first nations children.
  23. partly answered
    Persons with DisabilitiesMr. Taylor Bachrach (NDP) asked Mr. Vance Badawey (Liberal). substantive question.The answer references a summit but does not commit to specific actions on airline mistreatment cases.In May, for example, we had a summit to listen to and learn from those who have accessibility issues.
  24. misdirected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Tom Kmiec (Conservative) asked Marc Miller (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the questioner's facts instead of outlining an enforcement plan for temporary migrants.the members opposite should get their facts straight.
  25. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Tom Kmiec (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks past Conservative cuts instead of addressing specific deployment questions.it seems the Conservatives are a little nervous about me responding, probably because I am going to point out the fact that they cut over 1,000 jobs from CBSA.
  26. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). loaded question.Answer discusses relationship importance and talks without outlining any concrete plan.Naturally, we are going to have a very good plan, because it serves the interests of Canadians.
  27. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Mélanie Joly (Liberal). loaded question.Answer references past agreement and experience but avoids addressing border protection plan or election call.Instead of playing politics on the backs of Canadians, we need to work together.
  28. misdirected
    TaxationMr. Gabriel Ste-Marie (Bloc) asked Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Bloc for not understanding vulnerable people instead of addressing subsidy fairness.By downplaying the impact that the measure we introduced today will have on Canadians' and Quebeckers' wallets, some members are showing that they do not understand what people are going through, especially vulnerable people.
  29. partly answered
    TaxationMr. Gabriel Ste-Marie (Bloc) asked Rechie Valdez (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses small business impact with revenue claims but does not address compensation request.this tax holiday is not just good for Canadians, but it will also give a boost to small businesses.
  30. deflected
    Public SafetyMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). loaded question.Answer dismisses data as skewed and pivots to investment praise without addressing policy admission.while Conservatives use skewed data to talk down Canada, Liberals are investing in the brave police who do this hard work every single day.
  31. deflected
    Public SafetyMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). loaded question.Answer insults the member and highlights past cuts instead of addressing urgency or policy failure.I think it is safe to say we do not want to know what is in the member's head.
  32. misdirected
    Public SafetyMr. Richard Martel (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to Quebec-specific theft stats and investments, ignoring election call and victim support claims.Auto theft is down 41% in Quebec.
  33. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Dan Mazier (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservatives on climate instead of addressing the quadrupling of the carbon tax amid US tariffs.If it were up to the members of the Conservative Party of Canada, they would let the planet burn.
  34. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Dan Mazier (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to Jasper forest fires and Conservative record instead of responding to the carbon tax or election call.This is the party that has let the people of Jasper down.
  35. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMrs. Shannon Stubbs (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.The answer accuses the asker of hypocrisy on climate science rather than addressing the economic impact or axing the tax.The member on the other side of the House ran on a platform that included putting a price on pollution.
  36. partly answered
    PensionsMr. Richard Cannings (NDP) asked Mr. Anthony Housefather (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the issue and commits to discussion with unions but provides no plan to reverse the two-tier plan.We will be discussing this with different parts of the government, including the unions, and we will come to the right decision.
  37. answered
    JusticeMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses expediting Bill C-63 to committee to protect children from online predation.Getting this bill into committee is of paramount importance for all of us who want to combat online sex predation
  38. deflected
    Business of the HouseMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer announces an unrelated bill and criticizes Conservatives but ignores the request to table green fund documents.I am not going to thank my hon. colleague for his question because it was not exactly complimentary, but I am going to answer it anyway.