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Monday, November 18, 2024 · sitting No. 370

House debates Indigenous economic barriers report as ethics clashes dominate question period

The House spent the largest share of its time on a concurrence motion for the second report of the Standing Committee on Indigenous and Northern Affairs, moved by Conservative MP Jamie Schmale. The report examines barriers to economic development in Indigenous communities, including limited access to capital and inadequate infrastructure. Schmale said the debate was not a game and reminded members that an Indigenous procurement program is being taken advantage of by Employment Minister Randy Boissonnault.

Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux countered that the Conservatives were playing a multi-million dollar game to block legislation and asked why the report had been called up for debate. Schmale replied that Indigenous entrepreneurship and access to programs were serious matters requiring further supports from the federal government.

Decided that day

  • Referral of a question of privilege to committee (subamendment) passed

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

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Who held the floor · 2024-11-18

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 29%, opposition 71% of the words spokenOrders of the DayQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedings▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 11:0512:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:25Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 7 h 20 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
24Privilege rows crowd out the agendaThe sitting devoted the bulk of its time to procedural disputes over privilege, committees and ethics rather than substantive debate. Only one minor referral advanced while bills stayed put and most Question Period answers missed the mark.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Ethics

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said Employment Minister Randy Boissonnault falsely claimed Indigenous status to obtain grants and contracts and asked why he would not resign given his company's address matching a site of two cocaine busts. Boissonnault replied that he did not know the person named in the article and had never met her.

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Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said the Prime Minister opened the door to 725 per cent more asylum claims and approved a 211 per cent increase in international students. Immigration Minister Marc Miller replied that the government's plan for a 20 per cent reduction in permanent residents would reduce housing needs by 50 per cent.

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Carbon Pricing

Conservative MP Dan Mazier said the environment commissioner found the government would miss its emission targets despite quadrupling the carbon tax. Parliamentary Secretary Adam van Koeverden replied that eight out of 10 families receive more money back through the rebate than they pay.

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Housing

Liberal MP Sean Fraser said Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre cut billions in funding for communities and barred his MPs from promoting the housing accelerator fund in their ridings. Conservative MP Tracy Gray said housing starts fell 11 per cent nationally last month and called for the GST to be removed from new homes under one million dollars.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. misdirected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Marc Miller (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer ignores the immigration criticism and instead insults the asker about math and housing.The member opposite wants to call an election. He has no plan, except maybe to do some math.
  2. misdirected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Marc Miller (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer attacks the questioner's history in the House rather than addressing the immigration policy points.I do not think we will take any lessons from someone who has spent the last 20 years lighting fires in the House of Commons.
  3. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer narrowly denies one allegation without addressing the call to resign or other claims.I do not know the person referred to in today's article. I have never met that person.
  4. deflected
    EthicsPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer begins to respond to the article but cuts off without addressing resignation or the accumulated allegations.Mr. Speaker, the article states—
  5. misdirected
    Carbon PricingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer accuses the asker of disinformation instead of engaging with the carbon tax election proposal or PBO figures.once again, it would be nice if the Leader of the Opposition was not spouting disinformation and misinformation in the House.
  6. partly answered
    International TradeMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.The answer states support for the original bill but does not confirm whether the Prime Minister will personally intervene with the senators.on this side of the House, we are asking senators to support Bill C‑282 in its original form because we believe in supply management
  7. misdirected
    International TradeMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer responds by questioning what the Conservative leader will do rather than addressing the request for the Prime Minister to act.Will the leader of the Conservative Party ask the Conservative senators to vote in favour of the unaltered version of this bill?
  8. deflected
    TaxationMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses dental care instead of responding to the proposal to remove GST from basic necessities.our colleague is absolutely right that it is important to support the middle class and all those working hard to join it.
  9. deflected
    TaxationMr. Don Davies (NDP) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.Answer discusses Conservative cuts and Liberal priorities but never addresses removing GST from groceries.We will fight for Canadians as we have done on groceries.
  10. deflected
    EthicsMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.Answer addresses only one narrow claim while ignoring the broader ethics allegations in the question.I do not know the person in question.
  11. deflected
    EthicsMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.Answer repeats denial about one person but evades the multiple ethics accusations and call for firing.I do not know the person in the article from today.
  12. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.Answer flatly denies the statements without engaging the substance or the question about firing the minister.what the member opposite just said is simply not true.
  13. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.Answer again denies without addressing the demand that the minister be fired.what the member opposite said, once again, is not true.
  14. deflected
    EthicsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.Answer limits response to one person mentioned while sidestepping the list of fraud allegations and firing question.I have never met the person referred to in today's article.
  15. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.Answer dismisses the entire question as untrue without engaging any of the specific claims.this member's comments are untrue.
  16. partly answered
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Marc Miller (Liberal). substantive question.Answer acknowledges shared responsibility and provincial control but does not admit personal blame for targets.I think the member may have spent too much time in Ottawa if he thinks that the federal government has total control over immigration.
  17. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Marc Miller (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts blame to Quebec's past requests instead of addressing federal targets or warnings received.If we had listened to the Bloc Québécois and the provincial governments, there might have been a significant increase because the last time the CAQ begged me to have more people, it was about welcoming people temporarily.
  18. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Marc Miller (Liberal). loaded question.Answer reviews Quebec's immigration record and announces a plan without addressing the timing of federal action or the Prime Minister's alleged blindness.Since 2009, the Quebec government has tripled immigration to the temporary areas under its control.
  19. deflected
    EthicsMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer denies claims without engaging the specific allegations about the minister's statements or actions.We addressed the fact that the business was never listed as an indigenous business on the procurement site and it in fact received no funding from the Government of Canada.
  20. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.Answer lectures on word choice and pivots to offering a meeting rather than addressing the funding or indigenous claims.If he would like to learn more about indigenous procurement, which is very important to the Canadian government, then he should ask respectfully and I will be more than happy to meet with him to explain how it works.
  21. deflected
    EthicsMr. Kelly McCauley (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer repeats prior denials without addressing the new claim that funding was received or the indigenous caucus reference.We have stated that business was not listed as an indigenous business and it did not receive funding through that program.
  22. deflected
    TaxationMs. Leah Gazan (NDP) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). substantive question.Answer promotes the school food program instead of addressing the GST cut proposal on essentials.We are seeing thousands of children already this school year receive food at school because of this investment in our children.
  23. deflected
    TaxationMr. Taylor Bachrach (NDP) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). substantive question.Answer highlights child care investments instead of responding to the GST removal request on essentials.We have been able to help almost a million families, real people we have been able to support, to get them into affordable, high-quality child care, saving them thousands of dollars each and every year.
  24. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Dane Lloyd (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.Answer calls the premise false then attacks the Conservative leader on security clearance instead of addressing the minister's conduct.What we have not heard today is the reason why, after several hundred days, the Conservative leader is still refusing to get his security clearance, not only to protect himself but also to protect his members.
  25. misdirected
    EthicsMr. Dane Lloyd (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the scandals raised and instead attacks the Conservative leader on security clearance.If that is someone who wants to lead the country, they should probably know what risks are facing Canadians.
  26. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Dan Mazier (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the election call and instead accuses Conservatives of misinformation while citing a report.it is disingenuous for the Conservatives to continually link the food bank situation in Canada with carbon pricing.
  27. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). loaded question.Answer sidesteps the carbon tax election demand and pivots to oil and gas emissions cap.It is also really important to recognize that the oil and gas sector is the one that is continually increasing its emissions, and we are challenging the oil and gas industry with a pollution cap.
  28. partly answered
    Canada Revenue AgencyMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer addresses whistle-blower obligations but does not directly respond to hunting scammers versus whistle-blowers.Considering that CRA employees also have a professional obligation to protect the integrity of the tax system, it is important to remind them of their obligations.
  29. partly answered
    Canada Revenue AgencyMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer acknowledges the fraud issue and outlines actions but does not address the ethics or whistle-blower concerns raised.I can, however, assure the member that at the CRA, we take this mistake very seriously.
  30. deflected
    Carbon PricingMrs. Rosemarie Falk (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). loaded question.Answer ignores the election call and instead defends carbon pricing with historical emissions data and attacks Conservatives.What have the Conservatives done over that same time? They have voted against every single measure.
  31. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMrs. Rosemarie Falk (Conservative) asked Mark Holland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer completely changes topic to health statistics and measles instead of addressing carbon tax or election.When we are talking about things that have been gone for a long time, let us talk about what is happening with measles.
  32. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Don Stewart (Conservative) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids the election demand and pivots to economist support for carbon pricing and government plans.it is a fact that 300 economists in this country have all said that a price on pollution is an effective way to reduce emissions, and the majority of Canadians actually get more money back in rebates.
  33. misdirected
    HousingMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the questioner and her leader instead of addressing the GST proposal.It is interesting that this question would come from this particular member, who represents the city of Kelowna, which received $31.5 million to build thousands and thousands more homes.
  34. partly answered
    Public SafetyMr. Larry Brock (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.The answer addresses bail reform history and provincial roles but avoids calling an election or committing to new legislation.What is concerning, and what people need to understand, is that calls for bail reform echoed in this chamber 18 months ago.
  35. answered
    Public SafetyMr. Joël Godin (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The answer directly rebuts the claim of inaction by citing investments and noting declining theft numbers.We recognize that this situation is completely unacceptable for Canadians.
  36. deflected
    Foreign AffairsMs. Heather McPherson (NDP) asked Robert Oliphant (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids specific actions like sanctions or an arms embargo and pivots to general diplomacy.However, rhetoric does not help.
  37. answered
    EmploymentMr. Alain Rayes (Independent) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly commits to working with the member on the work permit issue.I will commit to personally working with the member to resolve this issue.
  38. deflected
    Points of OrderMs. Heather McPherson (NDP) asked Anita Anand (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer ignores the point of order entirely and shifts to an unrelated procedural matter.I have the honour to submit a message from Her Excellency the Governor General of Canada signed by her own hand—
  39. deflected
    Irwin CotlerMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer changes the subject to a prior answer correction instead of responding to the motion.I rise on a point of order to make a correction to an answer I gave earlier during oral question period.