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Thursday, November 7, 2024 · sitting No. 368

House spends day on committee reports and new NDP MP's maiden speech

The Standing Committee on Industry and Technology presented its 20th report, prompting Conservative MP Michelle Rempel Garner to move concurrence in a study urging the Competition Bureau to investigate potential anti-competitive behaviour in Canada's e-Transfer system. Liberal MP Adam van Koeverden said the government had already cut Visa and Mastercard fees by 26 per cent for small businesses. Conservative MP Michelle Rempel Garner replied that the deal imposed no requirement for processors to pass savings to businesses and that Canadians still pay high banking fees.

New Democrat MP Leila Dance delivered her maiden speech as member for Elmwood—Transcona, describing her community roots and constituents' concerns over housing and grocery costs. Liberal MP Jenica Atwin congratulated her on the speech and on the presence of more women in the chamber. Conservative MP Branden Leslie asked whether she had heard door-to-door complaints about inflation from overspending.

In Question Period, Conservative MP Andrew Scheer pressed the government on its oil and gas production cap, citing department analysis that the measure would kill jobs and send investment to the United States. Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault said the policy caps pollution, not production, and that output would rise 16 per cent by 2030.

Decided that day

  • 20th report of the Industry and Technology Committee adopted as amended
  • Bills S-16, C-244, C-294 and C-284 given royal assent
  • Bill S-274 passed second reading

From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard

Question Period – November 7, 2024. Video from CPAC. Watch on YouTube

Who held the floor · 2024-11-07

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 34%, opposition 66% of the words spokenRoutine proceedingsQuestion PeriodOrders of the Day▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:0018:00Last speech 19:15Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 9 h 15 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
48Privilege Spats Crowd Out Sparse ProgressThe sitting was dominated by privilege debates and 108 points of order, leaving little room for substantive discussion. A handful of bills advanced and one committee report passed, but overall output remained modest.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Committees of the House

Liberal MP Ron McKinnon presented the public safety committee's 14th report on a question of privilege concerning witness Lauren Chen's refusal to answer questions.

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Information Commissioner

Liberal MP Kevin Lamoureux moved that the House approve the reappointment of Caroline Maynard as Information Commissioner for seven years.

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Petitions

Conservative MP Dave Epp presented a petition calling for measures to stop the persecution of Falun Gong practitioners in China.

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Carbon Pricing

Conservative MP Andrew Scheer said the environment commissioner's report showed the carbon tax had failed to cut emissions and left Canada last in the G7.

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International Trade

Bloc Québécois MP Alain Therrien urged the government to defeat a Senate amendment to Bill C-282 that he said would expose supply management to future trade talks.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer redefines the policy as a pollution cap and ignores the commission accusation and job claims.
  2. deflected
    Carbon PricingAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives' record instead of addressing the commissioner's findings on the carbon tax.the Conservative Party of Canada is talking about climate change.
  3. misdirected
    Carbon PricingAndrew Scheer (Conservative) asked Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to inflation and housing while ignoring the Salvation Army report and carbon tax election call.inflation in Canada is at 1.6%, the lowest it has been in the last four months, and interest rates are coming down.
  4. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer criticizes past Conservative inaction rather than addressing the commissioner's report on unreliable numbers.If only it was to remind us that they did nothing for 10 years
  5. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservatives as letting the planet burn and avoids the commissioner's claim that measures are not causing emission drops.it is rather unbelievable that the Conservative Party still has its head in the sand when it comes to climate change.
  6. answered
    International TradeMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly agrees with the concern and calls for senators to reject the amendment.I am disappointed in the committee of senators who voted against this bill and made this amendment.
  7. partly answered
    International TradeMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms support for the original bill but pivots to asking about Conservative senators.we have indeed asked senators to support this bill in its original form.
  8. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer cites past G7 performance and ignores the commissioner's point that current measures are not working.We have the best performance of all G7 countries from 2019 to 2021.
  9. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMs. Lisa Marie Barron (NDP) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the NDP's stance instead of addressing the climate report or Liberal policy.I guess that, under the pressure from the Conservative Party of Canada, the New Democrats are no longer progressives and are no longer environmentalists.
  10. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Damien Kurek (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer dismisses the claim as false and pivots to a positive investment example without addressing job losses.
  11. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Damien Kurek (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to foreign investment and past NAFTA talks instead of addressing the production cap or U.S. jobs.With respect to the last NAFTA negotiations, it was the Conservative Party of Canada that asked us to back down.
  12. misdirected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Jeremy Patzer (Conservative) asked Mr. Ryan Turnbull (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservatives and cites an expert on food prices rather than responding to the cap's economic impact.Now are they going to start attacking this expert too?
  13. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Jeremy Patzer (Conservative) asked Ms. Rachel Bendayan (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights wage growth and investor interest in Canada without addressing job losses from the cap.Last week, the economist David Rosenberg said, "US-based investors should strongly consider moving from New York to Toronto".
  14. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMike Lake (Conservative) asked Mr. Ryan Turnbull (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to per capita investment rankings and GDP projections instead of addressing the cap or U.S. investment shift.If we look at the IMF's projections of growth in Canada, our GDP is projected to grow more in the year 2025 than any other G7 country.
  15. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Clifford Small (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.The answer compares import levels under past governments and claims Liberal support for industry without addressing the cap or exploration bids.
  16. answered
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly states that RCMP numbers in Quebec have not been reduced and affirms preparedness.the RCMP commissioner and the RCMP's commanding officer in Quebec have both made it clear that the RCMP has not reduced its numbers in Quebec.
  17. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMs. Kristina Michaud (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the question but refuses to provide details citing security.I think we have to trust them and understand that describing the details of police plans in the House of Commons is not very responsible from a security standpoint.
  18. misdirected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMs. Kristina Michaud (Bloc) asked Marc Miller (Liberal). loaded question.The response shifts to criticizing the Bloc Québécois instead of addressing the timeline for action.I thought the Bloc Québécois had rightly distanced itself from the CAQ government and was no longer fearmongering about asylum seekers, but it seems a leopard never changes its spots.
  19. deflected
    The EnvironmentMr. Dan Mazier (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer focuses on historical context and Liberal achievements rather than addressing current targets or the carbon tax impact.What did not happen under the Harper years was any type of action on climate change.
  20. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. Dan Mazier (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). loaded question.Responds by attacking the opposition rather than answering about calling an election.What the Conservatives have confirmed today is that they do not work for Canadians.
  21. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. Richard Martel (Conservative) asked Diane Lebouthillier (Liberal). substantive question.The minister ignores the question about the election and instead questions the Conservative leader's security clearance.How is it that a Conservative leader who wants to lead the government and one day head up the Coast Guard cannot even get his security clearance?
  22. partly answered
    EmploymentMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Mr. Irek Kusmierczyk (Liberal). substantive question.Provides details on protections but does not commit to ending the closed work permit system.Under our watch, we have mandated that employers provide all TFWs with information about their rights in Canada, prohibited reprisal by employers against workers who come forward with complaints and prohibited employers from charging recruitment fees to workers.
  23. deflected
    Indigenous AffairsMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). substantive question.The response highlights legislative efforts and unrelated funding instead of addressing the specific delays in Berens River.I want to thank the members of the INAN committee, who passed a government amendment declaring it a human right to clean drinking water on first nations.
  24. partly answered
    Public Services and ProcurementMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Karina Gould (Liberal). loaded question.Defends the minister by referencing the Ethics Commissioner's clearance without directly addressing the admission request.this issue has been dealt with by the Ethics Commissioner, who has cleared the member on three occasions.
  25. deflected
    Public Services and ProcurementMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Mr. Charles Sousa (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the demand to fire the minister and pivots to defending the indigenous procurement program.Our focus is on building up indigenous businesses and entrepreneurs through procurement.
  26. deflected
    Public Services and ProcurementMr. Dane Lloyd (Conservative) asked Mr. Charles Sousa (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the call for the minister to resign and instead defends the procurement program in general terms.We understand that those on the indigenous list are managed appropriately, and the procurement process is also taking transparent measures forward.
  27. deflected
    Public Services and ProcurementMr. Jamie Schmale (Conservative) asked Mr. Charles Sousa (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids addressing the request for an investigation or removal and repeats that no contract was awarded.It was not listed on the indigenous list, and we take the appropriate steps in a procurement to ensure that does not happen.
  28. misdirected
    The EnvironmentMr. Mario Simard (Bloc) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer attacks the Bloc's alliance with Conservatives instead of addressing the environmental record.my colleague knows how much I respect him, but he still belongs to a party that wants to team up with the Conservative Party to bring down the government
  29. partly answered
    The EnvironmentMr. Mario Simard (Bloc) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer provides data on emission reductions but does not address the rhetorical question about leaving the planet to Conservatives.In 2022, we were at 7% below 2005 levels.
  30. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Blake Richards (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to criticizing Conservative voting record instead of addressing the scale of veteran homelessness.What is disappointing is that when it came time to put our position on the record, the Conservatives voted against this program.
  31. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Blake Richards (Conservative) asked Mr. Randeep Sarai (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives' past record on veterans' offices rather than responding to current homelessness numbers.They shut down nine Veterans Affairs offices.
  32. misdirected
    HousingMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer criticizes Conservative positions on GST and housing instead of addressing the call to axe the GST.When given the opportunity to remove the GST on new apartments, the Conservatives opposed it.
  33. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Jamil Jivani (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to border measures and domestic violence without addressing the question about Liberal MPs' silence or loyalty to the Prime Minister.our position as members of the Liberal Party and my position as a Toronto MP is simple: Let us keep the citizens of our cities safe.
  34. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Jamil Jivani (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.Answer defends government actions and attacks Conservative policy instead of addressing responsibility for rising crime or MPs choosing the Prime Minister.We are very surprised that the Conservative Party would turn back gun control legislation designed to protect Canadians by making it legal again to have assault-style firearms on the streets of the country.
  35. deflected
    Public SafetyMr. Tony Baldinelli (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.Answer avoids assuring on Bernardo's parole by citing independence of the board and criticizes use of the name rather than engaging the policy question.it is important for all members in the House not to use the names of some of the most notorious killers in the country and give them the exact publicity that they crave.
  36. answered
    HousingMs. Bonita Zarrillo (NDP) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly addresses homelessness among seniors by outlining investments in affordable housing stock and protections against market pressures.In order to address those challenges, we need to ensure that we build out the affordable housing stock so people can find a place that is safe and that they can afford.
  37. misdirected
    Veterans AffairsMr. Kevin Vuong (Independent) asked Mr. Randeep Sarai (Liberal). rhetorical question.Question asks nothing answerable and implies doubt about members' values; answer rebukes the asker as out of line before pivoting to general remembrance.I think that question was quite out of line.