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Monday, June 10, 2024 · sitting No. 328
Bloc motion on foreign interference report leads Commons debate
The House spent the largest share of the sitting on a Bloc Québécois supply motion that asked the House to take note of the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians report on foreign interference, to express concern that some elected officials may be working in the interests of foreign powers, and to request expanded terms of reference for the Hogue commission. Mr. René Villemure moved the motion. Mrs. Sherry Romanado said she would support it and asked whether party leaders should receive clearance to read the report. Mr. Michael Cooper said the government was using national-security claims to shield the Prime Minister rather than the country.
During question period Conservatives pressed the government to name parliamentarians identified in the report as witting or semi-witting participants in foreign interference. Mr. Pierre Paul-Hus asked whether the Prime Minister would give the names to Justice Hogue. Dominic LeBlanc replied that the commission already has access to the relevant documents and that naming individuals outside that process would be irresponsible.
Conservatives also questioned the government about a Parliamentary Budget Officer report on the carbon tax that they said had been withheld. Mr. Jasraj Singh Hallan said the report showed most Canadians pay more than they receive in rebates. Steven Guilbeault said eight out of ten Canadians receive more in rebates than they pay and accused Conservatives of misleading the public.
Decided that day
- Report-stage concurrence of Bill C-20 passed
- Bill C-20 defeated
- Opposition motion for Sustainable Development Technology Canada documents passed
- Amendment to that motion passed
From the Hansard record of the sitting. Full Hansard
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Other moments
Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act
Mr. Dave Epp said the Senate amendments gutted the original intent of the bill that would have removed the carbon tax from fuels used on farms. Mr. Kody Blois sought unanimous consent to call the question.
Read the exchangeWays and Means
Chrystia Freeland tabled a notice of a ways and means motion to make the tax system fairer for every generation.
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Mr. Shuvaloy Majumdar listed carbon-tax costs reported by Calgary businesses and said families were buying expired food to cope. Mrs. Shannon Stubbs said one in five Canadians had used a food bank in the past year.
Read the exchangePublic Services and Procurement
Mrs. Julie Vignola asked how the government had lost control of contracting after the Auditor General found untendered contracts and ineligible projects. Jean-Yves Duclos said the government accepted the Auditor General’s findings and was already acting on them.
Read the exchangeLabour
Ms. Lindsay Mathyssen said workers at IMT Defence had been on strike since early June for fair wages despite government contracts and company profits. Seamus O’Regan said the government was monitoring the situation.
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- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids naming members by redirecting to the Hogue commission and a Bloc motion.
Today the House is debating a motion from our friends in the Bloc Québécois that we are going to support.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer refuses disclosure by calling it irresponsible and points back to the commission without confirming action.
The member knows full well that it is irresponsible to rise in the House and ask that a list of names be disclosed.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to the Hogue commission's access and calls the request illegal without addressing the why question.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The answer cites potential criminal prosecution and endorses the Bloc motion instead of confirming election participation.
He said I would be subject to criminal prosecution.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Jasraj Singh Hallan (Conservative) asked Steven Guilbeault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends the rebate math and attacks Conservatives rather than addressing the gag order or report release.
Conservatives should take math classes over the summer and should come up with a real plan for the economy and for climate change.
- partly answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The answer claims the terms already allow the work and states support for the motion but does not address the leadership criticism.
We believe that the terms of reference we negotiated with our friend from La Prairie allow the commission to do precisely the work that the Bloc Québécois motion calls for.
- answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Alain Therrien (Bloc) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly affirms full collaboration and notes ongoing official contact with the commission.
As I said, senior officials at the Privy Council already initiated that discussion with the Hogue commission on the weekend.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights government measures taken instead of explaining the delay in addressing the MPs.
Far from not taking this matter seriously, our government has been the only government in the history of Canada to set up a series of measures to detect, to disrupt and to prevent foreign interference.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Jagmeet Singh (NDP) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids the specific 11-week inaction query by shifting to general confidence in agencies.
I have full confidence in our national security agencies, and I have full confidence in the Hogue commission, which is looking at the exact scenario my colleague was talking about.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMs. Michelle Ferreri (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the PBO report question and attacks Conservatives on unrelated issues like abortion.
the only people in this city who seem to be gagged are Conservative MPs.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMs. Michelle Ferreri (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer evades the gag order claim by pivoting to government programs and accusing the asker of a personal gag order.
I would like to invite that member to lift her own personal gag order and to come clean with Canadians on whether she supports tax fairness
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMrs. Kelly Block (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer deflects the carbon tax report question by attacking Conservatives on capital gains and personal gag orders.
I invite the member opposite to lead the way by lifting her own personal gag order and saying what she believes.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMrs. Kelly Block (Conservative) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the report entirely to attack the member's consistency on Conservative platform issues.
on Friday, surprise of surprises, that very member for Carlton Trail—Eagle Creek informed, I am sure, for the first time, not only her own caucus colleagues, but also, indeed, the entire House of Commons, that she picks and chooses which parts of the Conservative platform she runs on.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the carbon tax report and instead demands Conservatives reveal positions on abortion and tax fairness.
I think it is time for Canadians to know which Conservative MPs believe that a woman's right to choose should be ended in Canada
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMr. John Barlow (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids the report question by criticizing the Conservative leader's past statements on unrelated topics.
the Conservative leader is fond of making inflammatory statements.
- partly answeredPublic Services and ProcurementMrs. Julie Vignola (Bloc) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the Auditor General report and ongoing work but does not address accountability for lost control of funds.
This report sets out observations and findings that are almost identical to those we have been aware of for almost a year now.
- deflectedPublic Services and ProcurementMrs. Julie Vignola (Bloc) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer discusses the agency and governance changes but sidesteps the riddle's specific criticisms.
As she well knows, Sustainable Development Technology Canada is an agency created by Parliament.
- deflectedPublic Services and ProcurementMr. René Villemure (Bloc) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.The answer praises the Auditor General but pivots to unrelated investments and interest rates instead of addressing the leadership-style claim.
The Auditor General's work is essential, not only on this issue, but on many other issues where her advice and recommendations are changing the way we can improve services to Canadians, including by increasing integrity and trust in procurement processes.
- misdirectedCarbon PricingMs. Lianne Rood (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks Conservatives and lists unrelated programs rather than addressing carbon tax impacts on farmers or Bill C-234.
However, the Conservatives prefer austerity and helping their wealthy pals.
- partly answeredCarbon PricingMs. Lianne Rood (Conservative) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses the fuel exemption claim but deflects on the bill's status and process.
Canadian farmers know, but the member apparently does not, that 95% of all farm fuels are already exempt from the price on pollution.
- deflectedCarbon PricingMr. Richard Lehoux (Conservative) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). substantive question.The answer repeats the exemption statistic and dismisses the bill without engaging the Senate or cost concerns raised.
the farmers in Beauce are very smart people.
- partly answeredLabourMs. Lindsay Mathyssen (NDP) asked Seamus O'Regan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges the situation and promises to stay informed but offers no action or timeline.
we are aware of the situation.
- answeredTelecommunicationsMs. Leah Gazan (NDP) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly condemns the described practices and commits to follow-up on services for victims.
I found the situation my colleague described as unacceptable.
- partly answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Dominic LeBlanc (Liberal). substantive question.The answer affirms collaboration with the commission but does not address handing over unredacted documents with names.
our government has always collaborated with the Hogue commission, and senior public servants who are responsible for decisions around redactions work collaboratively and constructively at all times.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). substantive question.The answer evades the request for documents by accusing Conservatives of partisan games instead of addressing the question.
While Conservatives play partisan games, we are steadfast and focused on countering foreign interference and putting in place the measures that will strengthen our democratic institutions.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). substantive question.The answer avoids naming individuals by praising the government's creation of the committee rather than addressing transparency.
Had it not been for these initiatives and the very tough set of measures taken to counter foreign interference, we would not know what we know today, and the member, despite being opposed, would not have had the information that he wishes to have today.
- deflectedDemocratic InstitutionsMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). substantive question.The answer sidesteps the proposal by citing secrecy laws and criticizing the tone instead of engaging with the request.
The member knows full well, as the minister just reminded us, that the government is sworn to secrecy, that this information is one of Canada's most important secrets and that we could be criminally prosecuted if we disclosed such information.
- deflectedEmployment InsuranceMs. Louise Chabot (Bloc) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). substantive question.The answer ignores EI reform and qualification issues by pivoting to interest rate reductions and fiscal policy.
The bank was able to do this thanks in part to our responsible fiscal policy, which has allowed inflation to fall.
- partly answeredEmployment InsuranceMs. Louise Chabot (Bloc) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists some EI extensions made but does not address the call for broader reform or a single eligibility threshold.
We extended sickness benefits to 26 weeks.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Larry Brock (Conservative) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids identifying Randy by restating general ethics rules without addressing the specific allegation.
The minister has responded to all of the questions, and that member knows that full well.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Larry Brock (Conservative) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). loaded question.The answer evades the demand for action by pointing to prior disclosures and committee time without resolving the identity issue.
The minister has filed the requisite disclosures under the very stringent conflict and ethics provisions.
- deflectedEthicsMr. Kelly McCauley (Conservative) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats ethics compliance claims for the third time without identifying the other Randy or addressing the company's statements.
for the third time, the minister is subject to this government's conflict of interest and ethics provisions, which are among the most stringent in the world, and he has answered all of these questions.
- deflectedLiberal Party of CanadaMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Jean-Yves Duclos (Liberal). loaded question.Answer explains independent process but avoids any mention of cost or benefit to Pitfield.
my colleague knows full well that that decision and recommendation were made by the National Capital Commission, an independent organization, which has said that it wants to focus on revitalizing downtown Ottawa.
- deflectedHousingMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to asking Conservatives about tax fairness instead of addressing seniors in housing crisis.
I have a question for all of the Conservative members.
- deflectedHousingMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Chrystia Freeland (Liberal). loaded question.Answer repeats fiscal responsibility talking points and pivots to attacking Conservatives on tax fairness.
That is why tomorrow we will be asking every member of the House, including the Conservatives, the following question
- partly answeredTelecommunicationsMr. Gord Johns (NDP) asked Mr. Ryan Turnbull (Liberal). substantive question.Answer references budget measures on fraud but does not address specific policy failures or the constituent case.
I note that our recent budget implementation act has numerous measures to crack down on money laundering and crime related to fraud.
- answeredDemocratic InstitutionsMs. Elizabeth May (Green) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). substantive question.Answer directly confirms willingness to meet and discusses scheduling while noting security clearance process.
I know that the minister would be happy to continue discussing that with her, as with all parliamentarians, and I will certainly raise this with him in terms of scheduling.
- misdirectedSelf-determination of the Tibetan PeopleMr. Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe (Bloc) asked Steven MacKinnon (Liberal). substantive question.Answer ignores the Tibet motion entirely and instead discusses an unrelated Auditor General letter on a different topic.
a letter addressed to the chair of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts from the Auditor General has been received but was not widely disseminated.