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Tuesday, December 5, 2023 · sitting No. 262

House debates amendments to housing and groceries bill

The House spent the largest share of the day on government orders for the Affordable Housing and Groceries Act. Conservative MP Jasraj Singh Hallan moved two amendments to delete clause 1 and alter clause 3 on competition inquiries. Liberal MP Karina Gould proposed a coordinating amendment linked to Bill C-59.

Question period featured repeated exchanges on housing between Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Poilievre urged the prime minister to view a documentary on housing costs while Trudeau defended federal investments and rejected the Conservative approach.

Further clashes arose over carbon pricing and the CBC. Conservative MPs Tracy Gray and Leslyn Lewis pressed for removal of the carbon tax while Liberal MPs Jenna Sudds and Adam van Koeverden defended rebates and climate measures.

Decided that day

  • Concurrence at report stage of Bill C-56 passed
  • Some report-stage amendments to Bill C-56 passed and others failed
  • 13th report of the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs passed
  • Bills C-368 and C-369 introduced

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Who held the floor · 2023-12-05

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 39%, opposition 61% of the words spokenRoutine proceedingsGovernment businessQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedings▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0511:0012:0013:0014:0015:0016:0017:00Last speech 18:55Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 8 h 50 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
58Housing Bill Advances Amid Procedural ClashesThe House passed key stages of Bill C-56 on housing and groceries while introducing two new bills. Yet 78 points of privilege and mostly deflected answers in Question Period limited substantive progress.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Committees of the House

Bloc Québécois MP Luc Desilets moved concurrence in the 13th report of the veterans affairs committee on a national monument and accused the Prime Minister's Office of unilateral interference that delayed the project.

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Food and Drugs Act

Conservative MP Blaine Calkins introduced Bill C-368 to reverse changes in Bill C-47 that classify natural health products as therapeutic products subject to the same rules as synthetic drugs.

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CBC/Radio-Canada

Bloc Québécois Leader Yves-François Blanchet asked the prime minister why CBC/Radio-Canada plans to cut 800 jobs at a time of crisis for French-language and regional media.

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Grocery Industry

NDP MP Alistair MacGregor said record food-bank use coincides with excess profits at chains such as Sobeys and called for action against corporate greed.

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Privilege

Conservative House leader Andrew Scheer moved that the Speaker's video message at an Ontario Liberal convention breached the impartiality required of the office and should be referred to the procedure committee.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    HousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer criticizes the Conservative plan instead of addressing whether the PM will watch the documentary.The Conservative leader's plan will not build enough homes fast enough, will not reach enough cities and will create unnecessary red tape.
  2. deflected
    HousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer criticizes the Conservative leader and promotes Liberal actions without addressing the documentary request.While the Conservative leader focuses on clickbait and views, we are focused on building homes for Canadians.
  3. deflected
    HousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer repeats criticism of the Conservative plan and avoids the offer of a private screening.'s present plan will not build enough homes fast enough, does not reach enough cities and creates unnecessary red tape.
  4. misdirected
    HousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the asker personally for misinformation instead of engaging with the housing plan details.He has demonstrated that he is extremely satisfied with his ability to spread misinformation and disinformation online, which, yes, I will admit he is very good at.
  5. deflected
    HousingPierre Poilievre (Conservative) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer mocks the question as an infomercial rather than responding to the policy points raised.when I came into question period today, I did not think I would be hearing an infomercial for how great Pierre Poilievre's social media skills—
  6. deflected
    CBC/Radio-CanadaMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer highlights past government actions on media without addressing the specific CBC job cuts.That is why the government has taken concrete action to support media across the country, to invest in local journalism and to stand up against the web giants in favour of journalists and the work they do, which is essential to our democracy.
  7. deflected
    CBC/Radio-CanadaMr. Yves-François Blanchet (Bloc) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer defends support for CBC but sidesteps accountability and the $100 million allocation question.Supporting local news and journalists in this difficult juncture is exactly why we introduced Bill C‑18
  8. partly answered
    HousingMs. Jenny Kwan (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses broader housing efforts but does not specifically respond to securing empty buildings immediately.We are putting forward $15 billion to accelerate the construction of rental units.
  9. answered
    Grocery IndustryMr. Alistair MacGregor (NDP) asked Justin Trudeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly addresses cracking down on grocer profits via new competition legislation.Our affordability legislation will empower the Competition Bureau to hold grocers accountable and prioritize consumers' interests.
  10. deflected
    Carbon PricingMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). substantive question.The response pivots to unrelated social programs and attacks Conservative voting record instead of addressing carbon tax removal.programs that the Conservatives continue to vote against, totally lacking empathy and understanding for the struggles that Canadian families are facing.
  11. partly answered
    Carbon PricingMrs. Tracy Gray (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses carbon tax costs via rebates for low-income households but avoids committing to removal.94% of households with incomes below $50,000 received far more rebates, exceeding their carbon tax costs in 2023.
  12. partly answered
    Carbon PricingMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). substantive question.The answer defends carbon pricing with rebate data and efficiency claims but does not address cancellation.our carbon price sends more money back to 94% of families that earn less than $50,000.
  13. deflected
    Carbon PricingMs. Leslyn Lewis (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). substantive question.The response shifts focus to climate change impacts and rebates without answering whether the tax will be removed from first nations.Climate change impacts the price of food more than any other factor.
  14. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists existing supports but ignores the call to stop new carbon taxes.We are also providing subsidies and support to food banks and charitable organizations.
  15. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Pablo Rodriguez (Liberal). substantive question.The response attacks the questioner's language choice and party instead of addressing the tax question.we witnessed an important moment when my colleague congratulated my other colleague for speaking in French.
  16. answered
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Mario Simard (Bloc) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). rhetorical question.The answer directly explains the purpose of meetings with industry stakeholders.It is important for the government to have those conversations so we can make sure we have heard everyone's perspective before we implement public policies.
  17. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Mario Simard (Bloc) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer promotes climate plan without addressing lobby meetings or COP invitation.we implemented a plan to fight climate change. It is the most robust and detailed plan in the world.
  18. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMs. Monique Pauzé (Bloc) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer highlights methane rules but ignores lobby meeting frequency and emissions cap delay.we introduced regulations yesterday to reduce methane emissions by 75%.
  19. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Jeremy Patzer (Conservative) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to criticizing Conservatives instead of addressing carbon tax costs for farmers.when meeting farmers right across the country, the first question they ask me is why the Conservative Party of Canada does not have a plan for the environment.
  20. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Jeremy Patzer (Conservative) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). substantive question.Answer discusses environmental impacts but avoids Bill C-234 or removing the carbon tax on farm fuels.They want a government that will deal with the environment and make sure that we work with governments, with agricultural clusters, to make sure that they are able to meet the demands.
  21. deflected
    Carbon PricingMrs. Rosemarie Falk (Conservative) asked Jenna Sudds (Liberal). loaded question.Answer lists food programs without addressing carbon tax removal or its role in affordability.We have also invested almost $150 million to strengthen food systems and improve food security, including over 100 community projects.
  22. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Ben Lobb (Conservative) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). substantive question.Answer emphasizes farmers' environmental concerns but does not address high carbon tax on natural gas bills.Farmers who are on the front lines understand that we have to take care of the environment.
  23. deflected
    Oil and Gas IndustryMr. Alexandre Boulerice (NDP) asked Jonathan Wilkinson (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer notes meetings across sectors and methane rules without addressing disproportionate lobby access.as I have already said, we have meetings with participants from every sector of the economy.
  24. partly answered
    Climate ChangeMs. Laurel Collins (NDP) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). substantive question.Answer welcomes the youth corps idea but pivots to methane announcement rather than committing to the program.I think the idea of having a youth environment corps to fight climate change and bring forward great ideas is an awesome one.
  25. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Mr. Ryan Turnbull (Liberal). loaded question.The answer ignores the specific question about an NDP deal and pivots to economic wins while attacking Conservative motives.While the Conservatives are blinded by their self-induced rage, we are focused on realizing a positive vision for the future of our economy.
  26. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Garnett Genuis (Conservative) asked Mr. Ryan Turnbull (Liberal). loaded question.The answer sidesteps the demand to release contracts and instead highlights foreign investment statistics.Canada is number three in the world in foreign direct investment, which is something that we should all be proud of.
  27. misdirected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives' understanding rather than addressing the request for contract details or foreign worker numbers.it is curious to listen to the Conservatives after their eight years in opposition and hear how little they have learned on foreign direct investment, which is clearly nothing
  28. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked Randy Boissonnault (Liberal). loaded question.The answer avoids releasing contracts and instead defends confidentiality while listing investments the Conservatives supposedly oppose.there are smart people on the Conservative benches, including trade lawyers and people who understand that contracts between nations and countries need to stay confidential because of important trade secrets.
  29. partly answered
    CBC/Radio‑CanadaMr. Martin Champoux (Bloc) asked Pascale St-Onge (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges concerns and references past funding actions but does not address the timeline of knowledge or specific plans to stop job cuts.With regard to CBC/Radio-Canada, when we came to power in 2015, we restored the $115 million in funding that the Conservatives had slashed.
  30. deflected
    CBC/Radio‑CanadaMr. Martin Champoux (Bloc) asked Pascale St-Onge (Liberal). loaded question.The answer reiterates general support and independence of the broadcaster without confirming prior knowledge or actions before the economic update.We will continue to be there, to work with the Crown corporation and to respect its independence.
  31. misdirected
    HousingMrs. Karen Vecchio (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to comparing party policies on housing instead of addressing student homelessness or stepping aside.when we compare the policies of the Conservative Party to the policies the government is putting forward, it is clear that its policies will do more harm than good and raise the cost of living.
  32. misdirected
    HousingMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer mocks the opposition leader's documentary invitation rather than engaging with the housing crisis solutions proposed.it is hard to accept a question about checking my ego at the door when the opposition leader uses his space on the floor of the House of Commons to invite people to watch a video.
  33. deflected
    HousingMr. Pierre Paul-Hus (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer promotes government investments without addressing the specific case or admitting to policy failures.I cannot believe that the member and the Leader of the Opposition are opposed to investments in affordable housing.
  34. partly answered
    HousingMr. Jake Stewart (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). substantive question.The answer addresses reducing red tape via a Moncton agreement but pivots to criticize Conservative policy instead of fully engaging on New Brunswick rents.when it comes to getting gatekeepers out of the way and reducing red tape, I will point the hon. member to the fact that we recently signed an agreement with the City of Moncton
  35. misdirected
    HousingMr. Frank Caputo (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks the Conservatives' voting record and platform rather than responding to the housing crisis claims.I will not accept criticisms from that member or the Conservative Party of Canada when they stand up while the cameras are on to make hay of this for a political reason.
  36. deflected
    HousingMrs. Dominique Vien (Conservative) asked Sean Fraser (Liberal). loaded question.The answer highlights investments in Sherbrooke and Quebec but shifts to criticizing Conservative opposition instead of addressing inflationary spending.The Conservative Party does not support these programs.
  37. answered
    Canadian Coast GuardMs. Lisa Marie Barron (NDP) asked Mr. Mike Kelloway (Liberal). substantive question.The answer directly explains ongoing modernization of radio detection systems and alternative safety measures in place.The Coast Guard is working around the clock to modernize and replace the radio detection system with a more robust and accurate network.
  38. partly answered
    TaxationMr. Gord Johns (NDP) asked Harjit S. Sajjan (Liberal). substantive question.The answer acknowledges support for firefighters via recent visits and training but does not commit to the specific tax credit bill.We talked about many different measures for firefighters that we will be supporting, in addition to the training of 1,000 firefighters.