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Friday, December 1, 2023 · sitting No. 260

Commons debates concurrence in public accounts report on carbon tax for farmers

Conservative MP Philip Lawrence moved concurrence in the 14th report of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts on protecting Canada's food system. The motion, which concerns the carbon tax exemption for farmers on propane and natural gas, occupied the largest share of the sitting. Debate continued with interventions from Conservative, Liberal and NDP members.

In question period, Conservative members pressed the government on economic contraction, food insecurity and the carbon tax impact on farmers and first nations. Liberal members defended the economic plan, citing job growth and international forecasts. Bloc Québécois members questioned federal handling of asylum seeker costs and aircraft procurement.

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Who held the floor · 2023-12-01

Government (Liberal)OppositionOver the day: government 44%, opposition 56% of the words spokenGovernment businessQuestion PeriodRoutine proceedings▲ Government side held the floor▼ Opposition held the floorOpened 10:0011:0012:0013:00Last speech 13:45Time of day, Ottawa · the House sat 3 h 45 min · each dot is a stretch of debate, placed at the minute it began
21Another sitting that went nowhereThe sitting devoted most time to committee business and scattered policy topics but recorded no votes or bill progress. Question period produced largely deflected or misdirected answers.AI-rated Score out of 100; the verdict and the answer ratings behind it are a model’s reading. How the AI rates this

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Other moments

Government Business No. 31—Proceedings on Bill C-50

Liberal MP Julie Dabrusin said Conservatives were blocking witnesses on Bill C-50 and urged study of the sustainable jobs legislation instead of procedural delays.

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Carbon Pricing

Conservative MP Melissa Lantsman said first nations leaders had sued over the carbon tax, claiming it discriminates against indigenous communities.

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Health

NDP MP Blake Desjarlais called for an extra $100 million annually to eliminate HIV in Canada, noting rising infections in indigenous communities.

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Grocery Industry

NDP MP Alistair MacGregor said the government had failed to act on grocery price gouging and urged ministers to confront Sobeys executives.

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Automotive Industry

Conservative MP Rick Perkins demanded release of the $15-billion Stellantis battery plant contract, accusing Liberals of filibustering transparency.

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Question Period, exchange by exchange

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  1. deflected
    FinanceMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). substantive question.The answer lists GDP and IMF stats instead of addressing budget balancing or axing the tax.Our GDP today is actually 4.1% above prepandemic levels.
  2. deflected
    FinanceMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). substantive question.The answer highlights G7 growth rankings and credit ratings rather than explaining why the spending plan works amid shrinkage.Canada had the strongest growth in the G7 over the course of 2022.
  3. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMs. Melissa Lantsman (Conservative) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). substantive question.The answer attacks the Conservatives' understanding of indigenous issues instead of addressing the carbon tax bill or Senate action.The colonial Conservatives just will not quit.
  4. deflected
    FinanceMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.The answer pivots to promoting the affordability bill and competition reform rather than ending inflationary policies.When it comes to helping Canadians, the Conservatives need to understand that that is exactly what we are doing by introducing the affordability bill.
  5. deflected
    FinanceMr. Luc Berthold (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.The answer challenges Conservatives to support their bill instead of responding to the Christmas wish-list examples or inflationary policies.It could give Canadians a Christmas gift for once.
  6. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMs. Marie-Hélène Gaudreau (Bloc) asked Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). substantive question.The answer discusses the immigration agreement and thresholds but avoids any commitment on reimbursing Quebec's $460 million share.We are working very well with Quebec, and we will continue to work with our Quebec counterparts to create an immigration system that meets our needs
  7. deflected
    Immigration, Refugees and CitizenshipMs. Marie-Hélène Gaudreau (Bloc) asked Soraya Martinez Ferrada (Liberal). substantive question.The answer reiterates the existing agreement and funding without addressing the imbalance in asylum-seeker shares or reimbursement.We send Quebec more than $700 million a year, including for work on the integration of immigrants into French-speaking society in Quebec.
  8. partly answered
    HealthMr. Blake Desjarlais (NDP) asked Mr. Darren Fisher (Liberal). substantive question.The answer announces funding for HIV testing kits but does not address the requested $100 million annual investment for elimination.That is why we recently announced nearly $18 million in funding to make decentralized forms of HIV testing, including HIV self-test kits, more widely available across Canada.
  9. deflected
    Grocery IndustryMr. Alistair MacGregor (NDP) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). substantive question.Answer promotes competition reform and meeting size instead of addressing action on gouging.One of the tools we presented that would make a difference is a reform on competition.
  10. misdirected
    The EconomyMr. Philip Lawrence (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts to job stats and child benefit while attacking Conservative messaging.There have been over 1.1 million more jobs created since the pandemic, and we have recovered all the jobs in the economic growth since after the pandemic.
  11. deflected
    The EconomyMr. Philip Lawrence (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). substantive question.Answer pivots to listing programs and Conservative cuts rather than per-capita recession data.What a lot of the poverty reduction organizations, the food banks and the organizations that are helping keep some of the most vulnerable Canadians afloat during challenging times are asking for is continued programs
  12. deflected
    Indigenous AffairsMr. Eric Melillo (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). substantive question.Answer emphasizes climate action and relationship importance instead of carbon-tax exemption request.No one understands the risks and dangers of climate change better than first nations communities.
  13. misdirected
    Indigenous AffairsMr. Eric Melillo (Conservative) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks prior Conservative record on spending and pivots to reconciliation instead of addressing carbon-tax impact.What underlies that number is the ongoing systemic discrimination of the previous Conservative government, which spent nothing in first nations communities
  14. deflected
    Indigenous AffairsMr. Gary Vidal (Conservative) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). substantive question.Answer focuses on wildfire impacts and climate resilience rather than judicial review or tax carve-out.That is the risk of climate change to first nations communities.
  15. misdirected
    Indigenous AffairsMr. Gary Vidal (Conservative) asked Patty Hajdu (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Conservative history on poverty and education instead of responding to carbon-tax burden claims.for a decade, the Conservative government kept people in poverty, refused to invest in infrastructure and refused to support education.
  16. partly answered
    Public Services and ProcurementMr. Simon-Pierre Savard-Tremblay (Bloc) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). rhetorical question.Answer directly addresses national-security rationale and Boeing investment but does not engage broader vision critique.Boeing is going to invest $5.4 billion in Canada's aerospace industry.
  17. partly answered
    Small BusinessMs. Nathalie Sinclair-Desgagné (Bloc) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.The answer outlines repayment options but does not address job losses or provide reassurance to workers.That is not going to bankrupt anyone.
  18. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Lawrence MacAulay (Liberal). loaded question.The response attacks Conservatives on unrelated issues instead of addressing the bill delay or Senate action.I would remind my hon. colleague that the Conservative Party of Canada has senators sit in its caucus.
  19. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Gérard Deltell (Conservative) asked Ms. Anita Vandenbeld (Liberal). loaded question.The answer shifts to accusing Conservatives of harassment rather than responding on the bill or Senate process.Meanwhile, the Conservatives have taken to social media to promote the harassment of women senators in the Senate.
  20. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The response criticizes Conservatives for misinformation without addressing the specific corruption claims or firings.Canadians are tired of the Conservatives spreading misinformation across the nation.
  21. deflected
    Innovation, Science and IndustryMr. Michael Barrett (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The answer pivots to praising the organization and criticizing Conservatives instead of addressing firings or the investigation.the extent the Conservatives go to talk down our economy and small and medium-sized businesses is amazing.
  22. partly answered
    InfrastructureMr. Charlie Angus (NDP) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). substantive question.The answer provides funding figures for Toronto but does not address the specific RFP or subway car funding refusal.This year, we are providing Toronto with $1.8 billion.
  23. deflected
    HousingMr. Brian Masse (NDP) asked Ms. Pam Damoff (Liberal). loaded question.The response lists general housing measures without addressing the luxury condo investment or immediate funding release.The fall economic statement introduces measures to unlock more than 30,000 additional apartments
  24. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Blaine Calkins (Conservative) asked Mr. Maninder Sidhu (Liberal). loaded question.The answer diverts to trade with Ukraine and attacks Conservatives instead of addressing the carbon tax on farmers or Senate action.The Ukrainian Canadian Congress has once again expressed its disappointment with the Leader of the Opposition and the Conservatives for voting against Ukraine and free trade.
  25. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Gerald Soroka (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.Answer shifts entirely to Ukraine trade deal and opposition voting record instead of carbon tax on farms.What she underscores is the fact that when we are concerned about the food in this country, we need to be concerned about geopolitical crises that are causing food prices to escalate.
  26. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Kevin Waugh (Conservative) asked Arif Virani (Liberal). loaded question.Answer pivots to Ukraine assistance and opposition failure rather than addressing carbon tax on farms.What we have seen is a failure of leadership on the part of the official opposition to make supporting Ukraine a non-partisan issue.
  27. misdirected
    Carbon PricingMr. Branden Leslie (Conservative) asked Ms. Jennifer O'Connell (Liberal). loaded question.Answer attacks Conservatives' UK trip and alleged Russia ties instead of responding on Bill C-234 or carbon tax.That trip, for one Conservative member, was actually paid for by the Danube Institute, which has regularly advocated against Ukraine in support of Russia.
  28. deflected
    News Media IndustryMr. Martin Champoux (Bloc) asked Mr. Francis Drouin (Liberal). substantive question.Answer describes the Google agreement benefits but avoids any assurance about CBC/Radio-Canada not accessing the funds.This agreement will inject $100 million annually into our media, and it will be indexed to inflation each year.
  29. deflected
    News Media IndustryMr. Martin Champoux (Bloc) asked Mr. Francis Drouin (Liberal). substantive question.Answer offers sympathy and mentions ongoing work but blames Conservative obstruction without addressing job cuts or tax credit expansion.Today we see the effects of Conservative obstruction in preventing the modernization of laws and programs that allow Canada's media and culture to exist.
  30. misdirected
    The EconomyMike Lake (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). loaded question.Answer promotes government plan and attacks Conservatives as one-issue party instead of addressing economic contraction data.Meanwhile, the Conservatives have become this one-issue party claiming that axing the tax will solve all the country's problems.
  31. misdirected
    The EconomyMike Lake (Conservative) asked Mr. Adam van Koeverden (Liberal). loaded question.Answer defends co-op housing and links Conservatives to anti-Ukraine stance rather than engaging with per capita GDP decline.That plays right into the Conservatives' recent vote against the Ukraine-Canada free trade agreement.
  32. deflected
    Carbon PricingMr. Richard Lehoux (Conservative) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). substantive question.Answer reframes the bill as disadvantaging Quebec farmers instead of addressing calls to pass it and lower costs.Whatever happens with this bill, it will have no impact on Quebec.
  33. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The answer attacks Conservatives for opposing deals rather than addressing the request to release contracts.it is always so outrageous for Canadians to hear the Conservatives make such crazy allegations.
  34. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Rick Perkins (Conservative) asked Mr. Irek Kusmierczyk (Liberal). loaded question.The answer defends the plant and attacks Conservatives instead of addressing the demand to release the contract.Conservatives never supported the EV battery plant in Windsor, and they are now working overtime to tear it down.
  35. deflected
    Automotive IndustryMr. Greg McLean (Conservative) asked François-Philippe Champagne (Liberal). loaded question.The answer claims to have read the contract but then attacks the opposition's record instead of releasing it.These guys have never seen it, and they make all these claims.
  36. deflected
    Canada Revenue AgencyMs. Niki Ashton (NDP) asked Marie-Claude Bibeau (Liberal). loaded question.The answer states that CRA decisions follow rules for everyone but refuses to address the specific allegations or questions about audits.Obviously, as everyone knows, I cannot comment on a specific case.